I'm obsessed with what hapens after death

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Anonymous wrote:OP here, I originally posted this thread on the Off topic board and was baffled when I saw that it had disappeared-- only to find it here. IMO this topic has zero to do with religion, so I am not sure why it was moved here.

This, I believe, is part of why I find the subject to be so intriguing...no one knows what to do with it or how to treat it. It's taboo.

But isn’t it your question the fundamental question of all religions? Where did we come from? Where do we go?

Religion at its base involves the worship or belief of a god. My question has nothing to do with god, heaven or hell. It's much bigger than that, which is likely the reason I am having difficulty articulating it. I respect differing religious beliefs and I have my own, but this not a religious question. My question really has more to do with why people don't question it when we question everything else. Loved ones essentially disappear/vanish from your life and you grieve the loss, but never really delve into where they are. I guess I am just amazed at that part. Everyone so easily accepts the disappearance without questionning how.

Maybe this is grief talking, but I have always had a curious mind so it does not surprise me that this is the way I express my grief via curiosity.

I think the practice of religion involves worship of a god or entity, but the many sacred texts weigh in on the fundamental question which leads me to believe that these are the fundamental questions. And people DO question it all the time, and there are examples of movies and literature that delve into the "where"...but ultimately it can lead someone to madness because there will never be an answer that will provide us with 100% certainty. Individually, though, the questions will lead some to reaffirm their existing faith, maybe to to find a new faith, or to lost their faith all together.

Personally, I feel I am more of a hopeful nihilist/stoic. I don't truly "believe" in anything but the scientific explanation...that our bodies break down and the atoms are reabsorbed into the universe. However, I do "feel" that we are more than atoms and are part of a greater consciousness and maybe we re-join that once our time in the bodies is passed.

I am sorry for you loss, OP.

I think you are totally correct about the potential madness exploring the subject could cause. It's just so very fascinating because there is no answer.

I also fear that you are correct about the scientific explanation...that is actually my biggest fear and the ending I would like the least.

I would never commit suicide, but I often wonder if some who did were simply curious about what was behind the curtain.

You are wrong, there is an answer. You have to sick it and you will find it.

There is definitely an answer. It’s just unknowable to the living. What you are referring to is faith.

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OP - you should check out UVA’s Division of Perceptual Studies. The scientific work they are doing is truly fascinating. Watch some lectures on You Tube.

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Anonymous wrote:There is no answer, so there’s not much to discuss. And where the soul goes is driven by religious beliefs, so not something people usually discuss.

I believe the soul lives on, but I have no idea where. I think possibly some souls stick around or come back to visit. Where they go otherwise, it is beyond my mind’s ability to imagine. Could it simply be here on earth? Sure. Could it be in some place known as heaven? Yup Could it just be part of cosmic energy and able to travel through the stars? Why not.

We have absolutely no way of knowing for sure

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OP here, and this is what bugs me. Of all the things we are able to figure out, death is the only one where are forced to make assumptions. Easily the second most important date of your life behind the day you were born, yet so few people seem interested.

I think this is because people don't want to think about it. Even believers realize there's a decent chance that we don't go anywhere when we die and it's scary to think about.

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Science says that energy cannot be created nor destroyed. It is therefore scientifically impossible for there to be “nothing” after death.

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OP, I think that you might be wording the question wrong. Is it that you are amazed that science doesn't try to figure out where we go when we die or if we go anywhere when we die?

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Anonymous wrote:Science says that energy cannot be created nor destroyed. It is therefore scientifically impossible for there to be “nothing” after death.

Can "being alive" be quantified as "energy"?

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Anonymous wrote:Science says that energy cannot be created nor destroyed. It is therefore scientifically impossible for there to be “nothing” after death.

The "something" that we can see is that the body decays and goes back to the earth, just like the bodies or all things that were once living.

Because we have minds and imaginations, we can study life and make up stories about it.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I think that you might be wording the question wrong. Is it that you are amazed that science doesn't try to figure out where we go when we die or if we go anywhere when we die?

OP here. This!

How could something so important and relevant to all, be given so little attention?

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You are wrong, there is an answer. You have to sick it and you will find it.

There is definitely an answer. It’s just unknowable to the living. What you are referring to is faith.

No, what I am referring is knowledge. It has nothing to do with faith. But you need to have a desire to find the answer and put some efforts to find it. Once you find the answer, it is up to you to believe into that or not.

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We go back to the state where we were before we were born. Basically, nothingness. In Plato, Socrates said it's like deep sleep that we don't ever awake from.

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My son was born a year after my brother died. When he was 18 months old, he had a febrile seizure, and was hospitalized. When he was four, he had major surgery. The night before his surgery, I was next to him in his bed and we started talking about my brother. He asked to see a picture. He had never seen one before, and when I showed it to him, he said "That time in the hospital, when I had that red light on my toe (O2 monitor), he was there." I was shocked, because one of my strongest memories of his previous hospitalization was of watching him sleep, with the red light on his toe. He was so solemn, and so sure of who he had seen, that I knew deep down that it was true. I had chills all over when he told me that.

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Anonymous wrote:My son was born a year after my brother died. When he was 18 months old, he had a febrile seizure, and was hospitalized. When he was four, he had major surgery. The night before his surgery, I was next to him in his bed and we started talking about my brother. He asked to see a picture. He had never seen one before, and when I showed it to him, he said "That time in the hospital, when I had that red light on my toe (O2 monitor), he was there." I was shocked, because one of my strongest memories of his previous hospitalization was of watching him sleep, with the red light on his toe. He was so solemn, and so sure of who he had seen, that I knew deep down that it was true. I had chills all over when he told me that.

love this

And I believe . . .

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I'm sorry for your loss. Read Many Lives Many Masters and John Edwards Crossing Over. Pretty amazing reads.

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^^^
Or, read the Bible. In there, you can find out that there is an afterlife for everyone and that we will all answer for our lives before our creator. Those whose sins are forgiven through belief in Christ will be raised in everlasting life to live in glory with Him, and those who died in their sins will live in everlasting torment separated from God. If you're scared of death, place your sins and trust on Christ and live in peace now and joy for eternity.

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Or, read the Bible. In there, you can find out that there is an afterlife for everyone and that we will all answer for our lives before our creator. Those whose sins are forgiven through belief in Christ will be raised in everlasting life to live in glory with Him, and those who died in their sins will live in everlasting torment separated from God. If you're scared of death, place your sins and trust on Christ and live in peace now and joy for eternity.

OP here-- and this is why I did not want the thread posted on the religion board. My question is not religious-based at all. What I'm really asking for is the coordinate, as in direct location, lol. I know I won't get that obviously and I am half-kidding, but where is what I am asking. Not asking what Luke 6:3 says, and not asking for basic answers of "he/she is with Jesus!"

My obsession is with the where and if you insist on replying with "Heaven!" then I need you to advise where heaven is located.