Kids on a leash in public

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Like spanking I think restraining the child is ABUSE.


So you never restrain your child in a stroller, high chair, car seat, bouncey or anyting else with safety straps lest you be considered abusive?


I only restrain them when they're not on arm's reach (high chair, car seat). They're supposed to learn how to behave in public. Teaching discipline and safety is my obligation.


Maybe you live at the end of a dirt road with no traffic and get your groceries dropped off by Peapod or something. Otherwise, WHILE you are in the process of teaching them discipline and self-control (which takes years), some restraint is necessary -- stroller, holding your hand, or even a leash. (I never used one, but I think comparing them to spanking is insane.)


Such restrains only make the child frustrated. It will teach them to fight the restrain instead of learning the proper behavior and the reason for it. Exactly like spanking. I'm sorry if you don't have the ability to understand the proportion difference in the comparison. You should refine this ability before adventuring yourself again in a public online forum.


Thank you for speaking for all children. I guess they email you late at night and voice their frustrations to you?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Like spanking I think restraining the child is ABUSE.


So you never restrain your child in a stroller, high chair, car seat, bouncey or anyting else with safety straps lest you be considered abusive?


I only restrain them when they're not on arm's reach (high chair, car seat). They're supposed to learn how to behave in public. Teaching discipline and safety is my obligation.


Maybe you live at the end of a dirt road with no traffic and get your groceries dropped off by Peapod or something. Otherwise, WHILE you are in the process of teaching them discipline and self-control (which takes years), some restraint is necessary -- stroller, holding your hand, or even a leash. (I never used one, but I think comparing them to spanking is insane.)


Such restrains only make the child frustrated. It will teach them to fight the restrain instead of learning the proper behavior and the reason for it. Exactly like spanking. I'm sorry if you don't have the ability to understand the proportion difference in the comparison. You should refine this ability before adventuring yourself again in a public online forum.


Thank you for speaking for all children. I guess they email you late at night and voice their frustrations to you?

Nope.
Studying their behavior is a more realistic way to find it out.
Just sitting on the mall and watching them passing by and checking websites like this also helps to understand what kind of parents do it to their children.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Frankly you don't jacks%4t about Quagnool-I grew up there and we all just had a gravity chip inserted in our sarcusses at birth. All the kids had one. All my parents had to do was push a button to get me under control.

are you the lady on the nanny forum asking about gps tracking system for child and husband?


You mean Sad Nanny who keeps going on and on about how one of her friends stole one of her charges? I bet Sad Nanny is the same OP. Wa, wa, wa, Sad Nanny -- children go missing every day, without even a nanny or a leash (it's not always about YOU).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Like spanking I think restraining the child is ABUSE.


So you never restrain your child in a stroller, high chair, car seat, bouncey or anyting else with safety straps lest you be considered abusive?


I only restrain them when they're not on arm's reach (high chair, car seat). They're supposed to learn how to behave in public. Teaching discipline and safety is my obligation.


Maybe you live at the end of a dirt road with no traffic and get your groceries dropped off by Peapod or something. Otherwise, WHILE you are in the process of teaching them discipline and self-control (which takes years), some restraint is necessary -- stroller, holding your hand, or even a leash. (I never used one, but I think comparing them to spanking is insane.)


Such restrains only make the child frustrated. It will teach them to fight the restrain instead of learning the proper behavior and the reason for it. Exactly like spanking. I'm sorry if you don't have the ability to understand the proportion difference in the comparison. You should refine this ability before adventuring yourself again in a public online forum.


Thank you for speaking for all children. I guess they email you late at night and voice their frustrations to you?

Nope.
Studying their behavior is a more realistic way to find it out.
Just sitting on the mall and watching them passing by and checking websites like this also helps to understand what kind of parents do it to their children.


It also really helps to be a parent. That will blow the rest of your research right out of the water.
Anonymous
I judged people with kids on leashes, until I had one. My 1 year old DS is a crazy man, no leash yet but I totally understand why people use them
Anonymous
Some kids learn to be good listeners early on and pose little problem in a crowded area. Other kids take a bit longer. If my kid's a runner, I would rather have him restrained to some degree for the sake of safety. Period.

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:We use a leash (for the airport, Disney, etc) and spank! Should I call child services on myself?!

Just recognizing it and being ashamed is a good beginning. Congrats.


Who said I was ashamed?
Anonymous
Some of you care about a child's safety, some of you care more how it looks. When a child's life is at stake, no stupid risk is worth taking.
Anonymous
I haven't read all of these, but I am fully supportive of the idea. If you don't have a high energy, impulsive and sometimes defiant young child then you really should not judge. I needed this at one point to keep my son SAFE. He has some mild special needs. This kept him from bolting into traffic on crowded streets and it kept us from losing him at the beach. Until you walk in my shoes, I don't think you have a right to judge. A child's safety is what comes first. If you can't stand to see a child on a harness, then I ask you would you rather see a dead child in the street and a devastated family?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Seriously...every time I see a kid in a "harness" they are always crying. It is an interesting coincidence.


Also interesting as I have NEVER seen a child on a leash crying. The kids I see crying are the ones who are strapped into their strollers not able to stretch their legs and walk.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Why don't we see nannies with kids on leashes?


How about because the nanny's sole purpose while she is with the kids is to be with, watch and entertain the kids. Mothers, on the other hand, have to accomplish whatever needs to be done (grocery shopping, doctor appointments, errands, etc) while managing to keep the kids alive?


Do nannies wear badges declaring that they are nannies and not moms? How DO YOU KNOW that you do not see nannies using leashes? You really DONT know...
Anonymous
I saw a man at the MVA with his pregnant wife and their young child. The kid was running EVERYWHERE, bumping into people and the father was having a hard time keeping up with him while helping his wife and watching their stuff. It was then he pulled out a Monkey Backpack leash and I was like "OHHHH, that's why people use them".

So you think it's better to let your child run amok and disturb the peace in a public place so you can discipline them, then to let them happily meander near you on a "leash"? My 16 month old listens, but when he wants to go, he goes. I have the monkey backpack, but have not used it yet. My DS would much rather be walking than in a stroller, so instead of restraining him in a stroller, why can't I restrain him using the pack? It's no different... other than my child is being active and content rather than idle and bored and fussy.
Anonymous
Dogs need leashes because they poop everywhere and they bite people. Children were supposed to learn discipline and safety instead of being restrained.
Harness is the easy way out.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Dogs need leashes because they poop everywhere and they bite people. Children were supposed to learn discipline and safety instead of being restrained.
Harness is the easy way out.


That's funny because a leashed dog still poops everywhere and will still bite! Not sure what your point is.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Dogs need leashes because they poop everywhere and they bite people. Children were supposed to learn discipline and safety instead of being restrained.
Harness is the easy way out.


That's funny because a leashed dog still poops everywhere and will still bite! Not sure what your point is.

My point is that dogs need leashes because they're irrational animals. What's not true about children.
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