Kids on a leash in public

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Like spanking I think restraining the child is ABUSE.

So you never restrain your child in a stroller, high chair, car seat, bouncey or anyting else with safety straps lest you be considered abusive?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Like spanking I think restraining the child is ABUSE.

So you never restrain your child in a stroller, high chair, car seat, bouncey or anyting else with safety straps lest you be considered abusive?

I only restrain them when they're not on arm's reach (high chair, car seat). They're supposed to learn how to behave in public. Teaching discipline and safety is my obligation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Like spanking I think restraining the child is ABUSE.

So you never restrain your child in a stroller, high chair, car seat, bouncey or anyting else with safety straps lest you be considered abusive?

I only restrain them when they're not on arm's reach (high chair, car seat). They're supposed to learn how to behave in public. Teaching discipline and safety is my obligation.

Maybe you live at the end of a dirt road with no traffic and get your groceries dropped off by Peapod or something. Otherwise, WHILE you are in the process of teaching them discipline and self-control (which takes years), some restraint is necessary -- stroller, holding your hand, or even a leash. (I never used one, but I think comparing them to spanking is insane.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Like spanking I think restraining the child is ABUSE.

This is just ridiculous.

I don't have a leash for my 21 month old - but I wish I did! It would have come in VERY useful on our last airplane trip, where she was trying to bolt onto the plane ahead of the line. I was holding onto her hand, but in doing so she pulled away with all her might and 'popped' her shoulder. Luckily it seemed to only bother her briefly, but I definitely had a brief period of worrying she had seriously injured herself. At lease with the leash in that situation, the restraining force would have been safely across her chest without the risk of injury. Plus probably more comfortable for her than me grabbing at her.

I also really don't understand why folks think plopping the kid in the stroller to restrain them is somehow 'better'. Makes no sense to me - the concepts seem equivalent.

Oh - and FWIW, the only time my DD has worn a leash backpack was at our friends house this morning - she found it and asked to put it on, so we let her. Her 2 year old friend held the leash end, and they had fun waking through the house like that. Very happy the whole time. I think the reason folks see kids *un*happy in leashes is because their parents aren't just letting them have their way (and it's the crying kids who generally catch our attention.) My DD has certainly reacted that way when I have had to force her into her car seat, stroller, etc. Pretty standard toddler behavior it seems to me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Like spanking I think restraining the child is ABUSE.

So you never restrain your child in a stroller, high chair, car seat, bouncey or anyting else with safety straps lest you be considered abusive?

I only restrain them when they're not on arm's reach (high chair, car seat). They're supposed to learn how to behave in public. Teaching discipline and safety is my obligation.

Maybe you live at the end of a dirt road with no traffic and get your groceries dropped off by Peapod or something. Otherwise, WHILE you are in the process of teaching them discipline and self-control (which takes years), some restraint is necessary -- stroller, holding your hand, or even a leash. (I never used one, but I think comparing them to spanking is insane.)

Such restrains only make the child frustrated. It will teach them to fight the restrain instead of learning the proper behavior and the reason for it. Exactly like spanking. I'm sorry if you don't have the ability to understand the proportion difference in the comparison. You should refine this ability before adventuring yourself again in a public online forum.

[Anonymous]

We use a leash (for the airport, Disney, etc) and spank! Should I call child services on myself?!

[Anonymous]

I thought leashes were barbaric--and then I became a mother to a very, very active boy. While I don't use one, I did buy one (never used it because DS hated it when we practiced at home), but I now know better than to judge the intention of the parent who uses a leash for his/her child. Though, I did recently see a mom walking with her child on a leash AT THE PLAYGROUND (completely gated and small)--and I thought that was a bit much.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We use a leash (for the airport, Disney, etc) and spank! Should I call child services on myself?!

Just recognizing it and being ashamed is a good beginning. Congrats.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I still didn't get used to the gadget. I find it so, hm... "modern".
I know it's safe and kids tend to run in public but I still can't accept people are putting children on a leash instead of teaching them to be good listeners.
Oh well, flame away...

Are you joking me? I was 9 months pregnant with an 18 month old. It was all I could do to get out of the house and not have the toddler run away. Was it better to put the leash on him or lock him up indoors? At what age do you expect a toddler to have the listening skills of an older child and actually follow what you tell them 100% of the time. If it comes between caring what judgemental people like you think or my child's safety, I am going with my child's safety.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Like spanking I think restraining the child is ABUSE.

So you never restrain your child in a stroller, high chair, car seat, bouncey or anyting else with safety straps lest you be considered abusive?

I only restrain them when they're not on arm's reach (high chair, car seat). They're supposed to learn how to behave in public. Teaching discipline and safety is my obligation.

Maybe you live at the end of a dirt road with no traffic and get your groceries dropped off by Peapod or something. Otherwise, WHILE you are in the process of teaching them discipline and self-control (which takes years), some restraint is necessary -- stroller, holding your hand, or even a leash. (I never used one, but I think comparing them to spanking is insane.)

Such restrains only make the child frustrated. It will teach them to fight the restrain instead of learning the proper behavior and the reason for it. Exactly like spanking. I'm sorry if you don't have the ability to understand the proportion difference in the comparison. You should refine this ability before adventuring yourself again in a public online forum.

Hi, PP. So sorry, I didn't recognize you at first! A 'leash' here on Earth is completely different from a leash on Quagnool!!! I understand now what you meant. Of course, a space tether is completely degrading and yes, even abusive, and space debris, as you and i both know, is only an excuse to subject the child to it. No, no, here on Earth it's actually quite harmless to use a 'leash', and the consequences are much worse than just floating off into space for a few hundred miles. Children here can actually be quite flattened by cars (or even taken by other humans -- odd indeed!!) or just knock down merchandise and cause general havoc, so it really is like being on another planet compared to what we're used to (ha ha). Anyway, Google 'leash' and I'm sure you'll feel much better about the whole concept. (And if you haven't discovered Google yet, PM me your frequency and I'll set my antenni in your direction and give you a tutorial. I'd love to beam with another Quagnool! You have no idea!! So glad we found each other.)

[Anonymous]

Frankly you don't jacks%4t about Quagnool-I grew up there and we all just had a gravity chip inserted in our sarcusses at birth. All the kids had one. All my parents had to do was push a button to get me under control.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Like spanking I think restraining the child is ABUSE.

So you never restrain your child in a stroller, high chair, car seat, bouncey or anyting else with safety straps lest you be considered abusive?

I only restrain them when they're not on arm's reach (high chair, car seat). They're supposed to learn how to behave in public. Teaching discipline and safety is my obligation.

Maybe you live at the end of a dirt road with no traffic and get your groceries dropped off by Peapod or something. Otherwise, WHILE you are in the process of teaching them discipline and self-control (which takes years), some restraint is necessary -- stroller, holding your hand, or even a leash. (I never used one, but I think comparing them to spanking is insane.)

Such restrains only make the child frustrated. It will teach them to fight the restrain instead of learning the proper behavior and the reason for it. Exactly like spanking. I'm sorry if you don't have the ability to understand the proportion difference in the comparison. You should refine this ability before adventuring yourself again in a public online forum.

Hi, PP. So sorry, I didn't recognize you at first! A 'leash' here on Earth is completely different from a leash on Quagnool!!! I understand now what you meant. Of course, a space tether is completely degrading and yes, even abusive, and space debris, as you and i both know, is only an excuse to subject the child to it. No, no, here on Earth it's actually quite harmless to use a 'leash', and the consequences are much worse than just floating off into space for a few hundred miles. Children here can actually be quite flattened by cars (or even taken by other humans -- odd indeed!!) or just knock down merchandise and cause general havoc, so it really is like being on another planet compared to what we're used to (ha ha). Anyway, Google 'leash' and I'm sure you'll feel much better about the whole concept. (And if you haven't discovered Google yet, PM me your frequency and I'll set my antenni in your direction and give you a tutorial. I'd love to beam with another Quagnool! You have no idea!! So glad we found each other.)

Your good senses of humor almost blurred your immaturity and lack of argumentation.
Semi-good job. Keep working!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Frankly you don't jacks%4t about Quagnool-I grew up there and we all just had a gravity chip inserted in our sarcusses at birth. All the kids had one. All my parents had to do was push a button to get me under control.

are you the lady on the nanny forum asking about gps tracking system for child and husband?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Frankly you don't jacks%4t about Quagnool-I grew up there and we all just had a gravity chip inserted in our sarcusses at birth. All the kids had one. All my parents had to do was push a button to get me under control.

Those buttons don't work ON EARTH (jacka$$).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Frankly you don't jacks%4t about Quagnool-I grew up there and we all just had a gravity chip inserted in our sarcusses at birth. All the kids had one. All my parents had to do was push a button to get me under control.

are you the lady on the nanny forum asking about gps tracking system for child and husband?

No, I was wondering about the sleeping arrangements of gerbils. Sarcusses, a$$holes -- now I understand. That is all.