Guess having the Student Driver sign doesn't make a difference

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If your son’s lane was ending and he had to merge, it was his job and responsibility to yield and stop if necessary.

There is no legal obligation to allow someone to merge into your lane (though aggressively blocking may be another issue). If you choose not to, you are a douchebag. But not a law breaker. Even if it is costomary for locals to “take turns” (which is nice and proper) it isn’t legally required.

So what you taught your son was not how to safely operate a vehicle in a lawful manner. What you taught him was that regardless of the law, he should do what seems fair.

You obviously didn't read my description. I specifically said that both lanes ended into one lane. So the other guy's lane was also ending as well. Unfortunately, nobody broke the law in this situation, including my son. He was in front of the guy who tried to cut us off and he has the right of way to merge next. He tried to speed up and cut him off the road.

You are probably one of those jerks who cuts people off on a regular basis.

I can't think of any roads I've ever traveled on where "both lanes ended into one lane." There is always a through lane, and an adjacent lane that merges into it. If you've found one, care to post it's location so we can all take a look?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If your son’s lane was ending and he had to merge, it was his job and responsibility to yield and stop if necessary.

There is no legal obligation to allow someone to merge into your lane (though aggressively blocking may be another issue). If you choose not to, you are a douchebag. But not a law breaker. Even if it is costomary for locals to “take turns” (which is nice and proper) it isn’t legally required.

So what you taught your son was not how to safely operate a vehicle in a lawful manner. What you taught him was that regardless of the law, he should do what seems fair.

You obviously didn't read my description. I specifically said that both lanes ended into one lane. So the other guy's lane was also ending as well. Unfortunately, nobody broke the law in this situation, including my son. He was in front of the guy who tried to cut us off and he has the right of way to merge next. He tried to speed up and cut him off the road.

You are probably one of those jerks who cuts people off on a regular basis.

OP again, just to clarify the lane situation. It is the image on the right that accurately depicts the situation. (Not sure I know how to post an image, but giving it a try.)

[/img]https://imgur.com/a/2aGDV[img]

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If your son’s lane was ending and he had to merge, it was his job and responsibility to yield and stop if necessary.

There is no legal obligation to allow someone to merge into your lane (though aggressively blocking may be another issue). If you choose not to, you are a douchebag. But not a law breaker. Even if it is costomary for locals to “take turns” (which is nice and proper) it isn’t legally required.

So what you taught your son was not how to safely operate a vehicle in a lawful manner. What you taught him was that regardless of the law, he should do what seems fair.

You obviously didn't read my description. I specifically said that both lanes ended into one lane. So the other guy's lane was also ending as well. Unfortunately, nobody broke the law in this situation, including my son. He was in front of the guy who tried to cut us off and he has the right of way to merge next. He tried to speed up and cut him off the road.

You are probably one of those jerks who cuts people off on a regular basis.

OP again, just to clarify the lane situation. It is the image on the right that accurately depicts the situation. (Not sure I know how to post an image, but giving it a try.)

[/img]https://imgur.com/a/2aGDV[img]

Obviously I have no idea how to do this

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If your son’s lane was ending and he had to merge, it was his job and responsibility to yield and stop if necessary.

There is no legal obligation to allow someone to merge into your lane (though aggressively blocking may be another issue). If you choose not to, you are a douchebag. But not a law breaker. Even if it is costomary for locals to “take turns” (which is nice and proper) it isn’t legally required.

So what you taught your son was not how to safely operate a vehicle in a lawful manner. What you taught him was that regardless of the law, he should do what seems fair.

You obviously didn't read my description. I specifically said that both lanes ended into one lane. So the other guy's lane was also ending as well. Unfortunately, nobody broke the law in this situation, including my son. He was in front of the guy who tried to cut us off and he has the right of way to merge next. He tried to speed up and cut him off the road.

You are probably one of those jerks who cuts people off on a regular basis.

OP again, just to clarify the lane situation. It is the image on the right that accurately depicts the situation. (Not sure I know how to post an image, but giving it a try.)

[/img]https://imgur.com/a/2aGDV[img]

Obviously I have no idea how to do this

It's the site. I haven't been able to post images for a while.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If your son’s lane was ending and he had to merge, it was his job and responsibility to yield and stop if necessary.

There is no legal obligation to allow someone to merge into your lane (though aggressively blocking may be another issue). If you choose not to, you are a douchebag. But not a law breaker. Even if it is costomary for locals to “take turns” (which is nice and proper) it isn’t legally required.

So what you taught your son was not how to safely operate a vehicle in a lawful manner. What you taught him was that regardless of the law, he should do what seems fair.

You obviously didn't read my description. I specifically said that both lanes ended into one lane. So the other guy's lane was also ending as well. Unfortunately, nobody broke the law in this situation, including my son. He was in front of the guy who tried to cut us off and he has the right of way to merge next. He tried to speed up and cut him off the road.

You are probably one of those jerks who cuts people off on a regular basis.

OP again, just to clarify the lane situation. It is the image on the right that accurately depicts the situation. (Not sure I know how to post an image, but giving it a try.)

[/img]https://imgur.com/a/2aGDV[img]

Obviously I have no idea how to do this

OK, here is the article. The situation is depicted in the diagram on the right. DS was slightly ahead of the car on the left, so the car on the left should have yielded to us. I rest my case.

https://drivetraineducation.com.au/2014/07/17/how-to-merge-correctly/

[Anonymous]

You were teaching your child how to drive in Australia?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If your son’s lane was ending and he had to merge, it was his job and responsibility to yield and stop if necessary.

There is no legal obligation to allow someone to merge into your lane (though aggressively blocking may be another issue). If you choose not to, you are a douchebag. But not a law breaker. Even if it is costomary for locals to “take turns” (which is nice and proper) it isn’t legally required.

So what you taught your son was not how to safely operate a vehicle in a lawful manner. What you taught him was that regardless of the law, he should do what seems fair.

You obviously didn't read my description. I specifically said that both lanes ended into one lane. So the other guy's lane was also ending as well. Unfortunately, nobody broke the law in this situation, including my son. He was in front of the guy who tried to cut us off and he has the right of way to merge next. He tried to speed up and cut him off the road.

You are probably one of those jerks who cuts people off on a regular basis.

OP again, just to clarify the lane situation. It is the image on the right that accurately depicts the situation. (Not sure I know how to post an image, but giving it a try.)

[/img]https://imgur.com/a/2aGDV[img]

I’m the jerk. With lots of teaching experience. Both public road and closed course.

Assuming what you say is gospel truth, from my perspective it still wasn’t a good lesson. Instead of teaching your kid to operate from the assumption that every other driver will pull an asshole move (unless it’s Maryland where they will try to kill you too) and it’s much better to just give in and move along. And that becoming a self-appointed traffic cop is much more dangerous than productive. Instead, you appear to have encouraged him or her to be aggressive in the enforcement of their “rights”. That’s not a good idea. Yeah, the guy was a douche. But creating yet another entitled driver is a pretty bad idea too.

[Anonymous]

Treat it as a lesson in defensive driving and move on. And let's be honest, you're being hyperbolic with your topic. Having the sign does make a difference, but just not to some jerk drivers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If your son’s lane was ending and he had to merge, it was his job and responsibility to yield and stop if necessary.

There is no legal obligation to allow someone to merge into your lane (though aggressively blocking may be another issue). If you choose not to, you are a douchebag. But not a law breaker. Even if it is costomary for locals to “take turns” (which is nice and proper) it isn’t legally required.

So what you taught your son was not how to safely operate a vehicle in a lawful manner. What you taught him was that regardless of the law, he should do what seems fair.

You obviously didn't read my description. I specifically said that both lanes ended into one lane. So the other guy's lane was also ending as well. Unfortunately, nobody broke the law in this situation, including my son. He was in front of the guy who tried to cut us off and he has the right of way to merge next. He tried to speed up and cut him off the road.

You are probably one of those jerks who cuts people off on a regular basis.

OP again, just to clarify the lane situation. It is the image on the right that accurately depicts the situation. (Not sure I know how to post an image, but giving it a try.)

[/img]https://imgur.com/a/2aGDV[img]

I’m the jerk. With lots of teaching experience. Both public road and closed course.

Assuming what you say is gospel truth, from my perspective it still wasn’t a good lesson. Instead of teaching your kid to operate from the assumption that every other driver will pull an asshole move (unless it’s Maryland where they will try to kill you too) and it’s much better to just give in and move along. And that becoming a self-appointed traffic cop is much more dangerous than productive. Instead, you appear to have encouraged him or her to be aggressive in the enforcement of their “rights”. That’s not a good idea. Yeah, the guy was a douche. But creating yet another entitled driver is a pretty bad idea too.

You clearly have no idea of what happened in the situation. He was ahead of the guy who tried to continue forward without yielding, which meant A) he could crash into the curb or B) he could crash into the guy, or C) he could have slammed on his brakes. Yes you do sound like a jerk.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If your son’s lane was ending and he had to merge, it was his job and responsibility to yield and stop if necessary.

There is no legal obligation to allow someone to merge into your lane (though aggressively blocking may be another issue). If you choose not to, you are a douchebag. But not a law breaker. Even if it is costomary for locals to “take turns” (which is nice and proper) it isn’t legally required.

So what you taught your son was not how to safely operate a vehicle in a lawful manner. What you taught him was that regardless of the law, he should do what seems fair.

You obviously didn't read my description. I specifically said that both lanes ended into one lane. So the other guy's lane was also ending as well. Unfortunately, nobody broke the law in this situation, including my son. He was in front of the guy who tried to cut us off and he has the right of way to merge next. He tried to speed up and cut him off the road.

You are probably one of those jerks who cuts people off on a regular basis.

OP again, just to clarify the lane situation. It is the image on the right that accurately depicts the situation. (Not sure I know how to post an image, but giving it a try.)

[/img]https://imgur.com/a/2aGDV[img]

I’m the jerk. With lots of teaching experience. Both public road and closed course.

Assuming what you say is gospel truth, from my perspective it still wasn’t a good lesson. Instead of teaching your kid to operate from the assumption that every other driver will pull an asshole move (unless it’s Maryland where they will try to kill you too) and it’s much better to just give in and move along. And that becoming a self-appointed traffic cop is much more dangerous than productive. Instead, you appear to have encouraged him or her to be aggressive in the enforcement of their “rights”. That’s not a good idea. Yeah, the guy was a douche. But creating yet another entitled driver is a pretty bad idea too.

You clearly have no idea of what happened in the situation. He was ahead of the guy who tried to continue forward without yielding, which meant A) he could crash into the curb or B) he could crash into the guy, or C) he could have slammed on his brakes. Yes you do sound like a jerk.

Given your tone, it appears you successfully creating another asshole aggressive driver. Kudos to you! Family legacy.

Face it. The TEACHER screwed this up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m the jerk. With lots of teaching experience. Both public road and closed course.

Assuming what you say is gospel truth, from my perspective it still wasn’t a good lesson. Instead of teaching your kid to operate from the assumption that every other driver will pull an asshole move (unless it’s Maryland where they will try to kill you too) and it’s much better to just give in and move along. And that becoming a self-appointed traffic cop is much more dangerous than productive. Instead, you appear to have encouraged him or her to be aggressive in the enforcement of their “rights”. That’s not a good idea. Yeah, the guy was a douche. But creating yet another entitled driver is a pretty bad idea too.

You clearly have no idea of what happened in the situation. He was ahead of the guy who tried to continue forward without yielding, which meant A) he could crash into the curb or B) he could crash into the guy, or C) he could have slammed on his brakes. Yes you do sound like a jerk.

NP here. I guess that would make me the jerk who agrees with the other jerk. I still want to see this actual road.

[Anonymous]

Something really doesn't add up here: jerk driver speeds up to try and cut off, almost drives son off the road (but son maintains speed??), and jerk fails to cut in front. So unless your son did something in reaction (speeding or cutting back) to the jerk, I don't see how the jerk driver would have failed. Also, if son can't slow down because of the "flow of traffic", son might have been going to fast because merge lanes aren't designed for cars to not be able to slow down.

[Anonymous]

This thread is pathetic. Who knows who was at fault? Who cares?!! You people who come here to attack the OP who clearly had a legitimate concern about aggressive drivers and their insensitivity toward student drivers fail to be convincing and you all sound just as angry as the jerk to cut off her kid. DCUM is like that...an incubator for anger and rage. Glad you're all enjoying yourselves.

OP, DCUM not a good place to post about this stuff. Realize that the driver was a prick and move on. The people responding here are cut from the same cloth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread is pathetic. Who knows who was at fault? Who cares?!! You people who come here to attack the OP who clearly had a legitimate concern about aggressive drivers and their insensitivity toward student drivers fail to be convincing and you all sound just as angry as the jerk to cut off her kid. DCUM is like that...an incubator for anger and rage. Glad you're all enjoying yourselves.

OP, DCUM not a good place to post about this stuff. Realize that the driver was a prick and move on. The people responding here are cut from the same cloth.

+1000

I think there are a lot of pricks here and OP's post struck a nerve. They don't like being reminded of their douchebaggery and that most people look down on them

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Based on home many people refuse to say thank you for letting them merge, pull in front of me, etc...I 100% REFUSE to let anyone pull in or merge in front of me now.

How would I say thank you to you, while we're both driving?

Just guessing, genius, that it would be by the commonly recognized raising of the hand if you feel comfortable with that.