| How can God allow the things that happen to children to happen? If I meet him I plan to karate kick him in the face many times. I have rage because of the suffering that takes place. It's taking place right now in Mexico, under the rubble. I hate Him. |
Obviously, no loving god would allow children to die at school in an earthquake. Better and easier to believe that there is no god - that both the good and bad things that happen are a matter of chance. |
Frankly, I'm not sure how you come to this conclusion. We all die, and whether we get 10 minutes on earth or 90 years, our lives are but a vapor, in the big scheme of things. |
I don't see the connection. Are you saying that dying violently as a child is the same as dying peacefully as a 90 year old? |
The Bible has an answer for this. Isaiah 57:1-2: "The righteous perish, and no one takes it to heart; the devout are taken away, and no one understands, that the righteous are taken away to be spared from evil. Those who walk uprightly enter into peace; they find rest as they lie in death." There is a better place than this Earth, which has been corrupted by those who don't love the LORD, for those who do. The Bible says that all tears will be wiped away. This is where your hope should lie, and it lies in the birth, death and resurrection of Christ. God is able to take care of children who die in earthquakes, but we will all die. Where will you spend eternity? One other things is certain: No one will be karate-kicking God in the face. |
Gee, Thanks -- I suddenly feel better about all those kids killed at school in the earthquake -- and the sandy hook kids too. NOT! |
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I used to struggle with the nature of evil and suffering until I became an atheist. Now I'm at peace. Life is unfair and cruel, and kind and amazing, and the only thing I can do is try and make it better for other people. Removing the idea of god has been liberating for me.
FWIW, I spend part of my weekend visiting with the terminally ill/actively dying. Everyone dies differently, and the main thing I've learned from it is that everyone deserves decent palliative care, support, and pain relief if that's what they want. |
My 12 year son doesn't really believe in God either. He was born into abject poverty with no clean water and little food. As a young child, he watched other children die and many left behind. He realized early on that the only reason he didn't meet the same fate is because his first mother turned him over to an adoption agency. His words, "if there was a God, he wouldn't let babies suffer and children lose their families". There's little I can say. I just listen. |
+100 I might add that anyone who feels "really sorry" for someone else because they showed justifiable anger at God does not have a healthy mindset at all. Condescension, denial, lack of introspection, and lack of empathy do not indicate a healthy mindset. |
I think this is a very immature imaging of God. God is not the big daddy in the sky. He is far more both wonderful and horrible than that. |
Let's see you live as a 12 year old who suffered through poverty death, and then being torn apart from his family. I can already tell, from comparing these two posts, that this 12 year old boys is lightyears ahead of you in emotional maturity: not because of his beliefs but because of the quality of his reflection and introspection, and how badly you look in comparison, with your judgment, lack of compassion, and bad spelling. I hope for your sake that you're not a grown adult, because I'm embarrassed for you. |
Not really defending "wonderful and horrible" pp, but this sounds like something they learned at church meant to explain god and make people feel better about him without having to think too much about it. |
How much introspection is needed to come to a conclusion that God sucks because some bad things happen to you. Seems the opposite of "introspection" to me. |
| ^^^ I'll add, read the book of Job. THAT is some introspection. Everything bad you can think of happened to him, and he still came to the conclusion that God is good. |
How much introspection is needed to come to the conclusion that it's shockingly callous, blind and thoughtless to respond to a conclusion that a 12-year old boy drew from horrific personal experiences by calling him, "very immature"? Like holy shit, you and PP need therapy. In any case, Mother Theresa would agree with the 12-year old boy. That was a lady who died at a very old age, after years of service (and some shady proselytization + Protestant-hating behavior, but we'll let that go) and prayer, and she couldn't have faith in God after all of the suffering she had seen. I guarantee she was more introspective than you or the PP. |