Trump's new educational secretary nominee, Betsy DeVos, have a reaching affect on VA Public Schools?

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NP - not in Mt Vernon, but could say the same. Boundaries change, lower income students keep coming and soon enough your diverse pyramid becomes less diverse ie majority poor. It becomes increasingly difficult to meet standards and yes, people start avoiding your pyramid unless they go private.

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I think this could seriously affect Arlington Schools.

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Anonymous wrote:I think this could seriously affect Arlington Schools.

The superintendent would love to be freed from the last vestiges of APS' moribund commitment to a public school system that works for all students, from all backgrounds. I was hoping he'd leave to go work for some ed reform organization.

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Anonymous wrote:I hope so. I'm pro choice, if your school is mis-managed, you should have the option to go to a school of your choice.

In a terrible school district, choice may help some students without improving public schools. In a good school district, choice may worsen schools generally.

This. Because the schools that are already segregated will become even more segregated until they are 100% poor and 100% minority. Meanwhile, my taxes will be diverted away from those poor minority students who are already starting out from less advantaged positions and the schools they are left behind in won't be renovated or have enough money for technology or new books or anything and inequality becomes further entrenched. The money will go to some religious academy where the teachers may not be qualified and where they could be teaching creationism or something. That's crap.

Sounds good to me

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Anonymous wrote:FCPS is already basically divided into the haves and have nots. If you live in one of the garbage pyramids like I do, you would be all for vouchers. Let's face it. If you're in certain FCPS pyramids, your schools are failing and not getting any better. The ESL and FARM students just keep coming, and middle class families avoid your pyramid like the plague. Give me my tax dollars back so I can send my kids to a school that isn't failing.

Maybe you shouldn't paid more to live in a better area

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Fairfax County need not look past Herndon for instance. The Coates Carson pyramid to be exact. Can vouchers help? The neighborhoods are nice, the elementary school is doing so poorly it cannot provide students adequately prepared for Carson MS.

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Neither Trump nor his appointees have anything to offer that would benefit public schools. Their sole aim is to retaliate against teachers' groups who supported Clinton and to find a way for some cronies to cash in with for-private schemes.

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Anonymous wrote:Families aren't the only ones who get to choose in a so-called school choice scenario. The schools get to choose too and then most vulnerable (poor and special needs) students will get the very shortest end of the stick. If separate but equal is your jam, great, because that's what you're going to get with a school vouchers program.

Not to mention the part where tax dollars will inevitably pay for religious schools.

Do you really think they'd be equal?

Not the PP, but I suspect h/she was being tongue in cheek. Separate is never equal, and I think that was the point. Vouchers make the existing inequality even worse.

I was the PP and yes, I was being sarcastic. There will be nothing approaching equal of all the Langley kids go to private school and all the Hayfield kids stay in Hayfield. And the kids with iEPs will be trapped because the for profit charters will refuse to serve them and the traditional publics will have been gutted.

K-12 education choice is the primary component of this shitshow, but it's clear to me that Trump and his sycophants have no real idea what common core is as well. While the high stakes testing aspect is fairly pointless IMHO, I actually like the curriculum and see value in having standardized learning objectives across the country. Everyone loves to complain about common core math, but my first grader is essentially doing algebra right now because of the way math is being taught.

Honestly in the DC Metro we are almost universally fortunate to have strong public education systems. Say what you will about PG or PW, but schools in those districts are still ranked in the top 100 nationally. DC is the outlier. As an FCPS parent of a kid with an IEP, I see DeVos as presenting a huge threat to the strong districts around here, including FCPS and LCPS, and the special ed and FARMS kids will feel it the most.

It's worth nothing they DeVos or really any other Trumpet could also have a devastating effect on higher ed if there is a push to end direct lending. I have no desire to go back to preferred lenders. I really don't believe there is a clear understanding of everything with DOE does, despite the apparent intention to gut it.

+1000

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I and DH are private school kids who send our kids to public. We have the money for private but like the diversity public offers. We also like FCPS's AAP program for our kids. I suspect it will die if it's up to DeVos and we will have to homeschool or go private. The only thing DeVos' selection does for me is make me smile at the karma that is about to befall any teacher who voted for Trump. I know many in McLean. And listening to them moan about this makes me secretly chuckle. Get what you vote for. Karma is a b-ch!

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I look forward to the establishment of Muslim private schools. Watch how fast vouchers for religious privates gets shut down.

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Anonymous wrote:FCPS is already basically divided into the haves and have nots. If you live in one of the garbage pyramids like I do, you would be all for vouchers. Let's face it. If you're in certain FCPS pyramids, your schools are failing and not getting any better. The ESL and FARM students just keep coming, and middle class families avoid your pyramid like the plague. Give me my tax dollars back so I can send my kids to a school that isn't failing.

Maybe you shouldn't paid more to live in a better area

Huh? They should have paid less to live in a worse area? Is that what you mean?

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Anonymous wrote:I can't imagine her appointment having a huge impact on VA schools. For one, we don't have any charter schools in VA. Secondly, most FCPS schools are functioning so there's no reason for vouchers. I think most educational efforts are focused on reforming Title 1 and innercity schools. VA has been left pretty much unscathed by this wave of education reform and NCLB that's been going on for over a decade.

You badly misunderstand the point of vouchers, or where DeVos and folks like her have sought to implement them. Their efforts are not limited to failing or high needs schools in the least. They will come for every single public school dollar they can pry loose and divert to religious schools. The crying tragedy is, of course, that DeVos, Trump, and their cronies manage to avoid paying income tax, so their effort to divert tax funds amount to a massive wealth transfer from the middle to upper classes.

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Anonymous wrote:I and DH are private school kids who send our kids to public. We have the money for private but like the diversity public offers. We also like FCPS's AAP program for our kids. I suspect it will die if it's up to DeVos and we will have to homeschool or go private. The only thing DeVos' selection does for me is make me smile at the karma that is about to befall any teacher who voted for Trump. I know many in McLean. And listening to them moan about this makes me secretly chuckle. Get what you vote for. Karma is a b-ch!

Not a single precinct in McLean voted in favor of Trump.

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Anonymous wrote:I and DH are private school kids who send our kids to public. We have the money for private but like the diversity public offers. We also like FCPS's AAP program for our kids. I suspect it will die if it's up to DeVos and we will have to homeschool or go private. The only thing DeVos' selection does for me is make me smile at the karma that is about to befall any teacher who voted for Trump. I know many in McLean. And listening to them moan about this makes me secretly chuckle. Get what you vote for. Karma is a b-ch!

Not a single precinct in McLean voted in favor of Trump.

Not PP but that doesn't mean individuals did not. I am in Lee district. None of our precincts did either but I know individuals who did or at least claimed to and who in their right mind would admit to that in FX??

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Anonymous wrote:I and DH are private school kids who send our kids to public. We have the money for private but like the diversity public offers. We also like FCPS's AAP program for our kids. I suspect it will die if it's up to DeVos and we will have to homeschool or go private. The only thing DeVos' selection does for me is make me smile at the karma that is about to befall any teacher who voted for Trump. I know many in McLean. And listening to them moan about this makes me secretly chuckle. Get what you vote for. Karma is a b-ch!

Not a single precinct in McLean voted in favor of Trump.

Not PP but that doesn't mean individuals did not. I am in Lee district. None of our precincts did either but I know individuals who did or at least claimed to and who in their right mind would admit to that in FX??

If there are teachers who both live in Fairfax County and voted for Trump, it's far more likely they live in the Sully or Springfield Districts than in Lee or Dranesville (which includes McLean). Karma may be a b*itch, but it probably has a compass as well.