The Alt-right and DCUM

[Anonymous]

This explains a lot about the tenor of,the posts lately.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know it is hard for some of you to believe that there are actually Trump supporters out there.
Just watch one of his rallies. It is not far fetched to believe they are posting here too.
So sorry your little liberal bubble on DCUM is no longer so liberal anymore.

What do you hope to get out of coming on here in excess of 1600 times? You seem unhappy and confrontational. Is baiting DCUM a particularly satisfying pastime?

OP here.

One of the goals of the alt-right are to normalize the harmful discourse Trump spews, particularly insofar as it gives voice to a specific white, male, racist, xenophobic viewpoint.

In posting 1600 times (or submitting 1600 votes to an online poll), an anonymous user can make it seem to others as though Trump as a political candidate has wider support for his views, and thereby make those views seem common or normal, when in fact they represent a stunning departure from the civil discourse of even the recent past. And, if you live in the DC area and not the deep south, you probably don't see this viewpoint as common or normal IRL, so it's an attempt at propaganda of sorts.

I also think (to speak to your last point), that YES, it is a way for individuals who feel that they lack power IRL to get off on feeling powerful online, where they can feel they are righting the "wrong" of white men losing power in this country.

I am a white woman, btw.

Thank you, Jeff, for the analysis!

To the OP, I totally agree with your above point.
On a related note., some posts on another thread make me suspect that the Trump campaign is hiring a workforce of trolls to post these endless pro-Trump messages , and on Facebook too ( eg commenting on newspaper stories). To accomplish your first point, OP.

[Anonymous]

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jsteele wrote:

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jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know it is hard for some of you to believe that there are actually Trump supporters out there.
Just watch one of his rallies. It is not far fetched to believe they are posting here too.
So sorry your little liberal bubble on DCUM is no longer so liberal anymore.

I'm going to pick on this poster, not because I think he/she deserves it, but because I think he/she can take it without crying. But, This poster is fairly representative of what's going on. This poster is from a southern state. The poster has posted more than 1600 posts since June -- almost all of them in the Political Forum. Obviously, the poster doesn't have a lot in common with our usual crowd and the sheer number of posts can change the tone of the forum considerably.

Nothing wrong with that and I'm not against it. I'm just pointing it out.

I thought this was supposed to be an "anonymous" open site. So now Jeff is going to divulge the number of posts and the geographic regions of those who frequent this site? Why?

This is why I picked on the other poster.

Lol!
Now that you know 1 person of unknown gender, race, name, address, religion or ethnicity, who resides in 1 of approx 14 states, occasionally travels to DC and frequently posts on DCUM... They are no longer anon. You can now hunt them down and disagree with them face to face.

Well I disagree with that...1600 posts with an identifiable address..maybe you say in one post you are a white women, maybe in another you say your two kids go to x school, in another you say the age of the kids, in another you say you work in x field, in another you say you work at y company, in another you say your age, in another your neighborhood, in another you talk about your revonation to your house, etc etc. So maybe 25 posts out of 1600, but each post is known to come from the same person. It would be pretty easy for Jeff to ID someone. There is little privacy and everything you post(including here) can one day be associated with you or your spouse.

OK, I post here a lot. Who am I? Where am I?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know it is hard for some of you to believe that there are actually Trump supporters out there.
Just watch one of his rallies. It is not far fetched to believe they are posting here too.
So sorry your little liberal bubble on DCUM is no longer so liberal anymore.

I'm going to pick on this poster, not because I think he/she deserves it, but because I think he/she can take it without crying. But, This poster is fairly representative of what's going on. This poster is from a southern state. The poster has posted more than 1600 posts since June -- almost all of them in the Political Forum. Obviously, the poster doesn't have a lot in common with our usual crowd and the sheer number of posts can change the tone of the forum considerably.

Nothing wrong with that and I'm not against it. I'm just pointing it out.

I thought this was supposed to be an "anonymous" open site. So now Jeff is going to divulge the number of posts and the geographic regions of those who frequent this site? Why?

This is why I picked on the other poster.

Lol!
Now that you know 1 person of unknown gender, race, name, address, religion or ethnicity, who resides in 1 of approx 14 states, occasionally travels to DC and frequently posts on DCUM... They are no longer anon. You can now hunt them down and disagree with them face to face.

Well I disagree with that...1600 posts with an identifiable address..maybe you say in one post you are a white women, maybe in another you say your two kids go to x school, in another you say the age of the kids, in another you say you work in x field, in another you say you work at y company, in another you say your age, in another your neighborhood, in another you talk about your revonation to your house, etc etc. So maybe 25 posts out of 1600, but each post is known to come from the same person. It would be pretty easy for Jeff to ID someone. There is little privacy and everything you post(including here) can one day be associated with you or your spouse.

OK, I post here a lot. Who am I? Where am I?

Ask Jeff. Should he out you here?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:After seeing more about the alt-right and 4chan influencing online polls for Trump after the debate, I'm really interested to know how they are affecting the conversation here on DCUM.

My guess is that there are quite a few people trolling here. 4chan users are tech savvy enough to spoof IP addresses so it's not as obvious to Jeff that the same 400-lb dudes in basements are sh*tposting over and over, but I think it's pretty likely given the overwhelmingly Democratic demographics of the DC area and surroundings.

Either that, or the Trump posters are so much more active here because they don't have jobs like the Clinton supporters do.

Agree. The conversations on here do not reflect local politics at all, and frankly, I don't think they even represent the country as a whole. I think there's a lot of Trumpster trolling, especially since many of the conversations are so repetitive and focus on minor sh^t, and not on, you know, diplomacy, policy, and economic outcomes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:After seeing more about the alt-right and 4chan influencing online polls for Trump after the debate, I'm really interested to know how they are affecting the conversation here on DCUM.

My guess is that there are quite a few people trolling here. 4chan users are tech savvy enough to spoof IP addresses so it's not as obvious to Jeff that the same 400-lb dudes in basements are sh*tposting over and over, but I think it's pretty likely given the overwhelmingly Democratic demographics of the DC area and surroundings.

Either that, or the Trump posters are so much more active here because they don't have jobs like the Clinton supporters do.

Agree. The conversations on here do not reflect local politics at all, and frankly, I don't think they even represent the country as a whole. I think there's a lot of Trumpster trolling, especially since many of the conversations are so repetitive and focus on minor sh^t, and not on, you know, diplomacy, policy, and economic outcomes.

And you seriously believe the average American cares about this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:After seeing more about the alt-right and 4chan influencing online polls for Trump after the debate, I'm really interested to know how they are affecting the conversation here on DCUM.

My guess is that there are quite a few people trolling here. 4chan users are tech savvy enough to spoof IP addresses so it's not as obvious to Jeff that the same 400-lb dudes in basements are sh*tposting over and over, but I think it's pretty likely given the overwhelmingly Democratic demographics of the DC area and surroundings.

Either that, or the Trump posters are so much more active here because they don't have jobs like the Clinton supporters do.

Agree. The conversations on here do not reflect local politics at all, and frankly, I don't think they even represent the country as a whole. I think there's a lot of Trumpster trolling, especially since many of the conversations are so repetitive and focus on minor sh^t, and not on, you know, diplomacy, policy, and economic outcomes.

And you seriously believe the average American cares about this?

i hope so.

diplomacy: how we get along with other countries in the world, what we do about nuclear powers out there, how we relate to the arab world and israel
policy: do women get equal pay to men? what benefits do veterans get?
economic outcomes: how can we get better jobs that make more money?

[Anonymous]

Hopefully after Trump loses, they will go back to whence they came, and we can again have interesting discussions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I know it is hard for some of you to believe that there are actually Trump supporters out there.
Just watch one of his rallies. It is not far fetched to believe they are posting here too.
So sorry your little liberal bubble on DCUM is no longer so liberal anymore.

As a liberal I don't care that republican pigs are posting here, if anything I love reading their cyber meltdowns

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
i hope so.

diplomacy: how we get along with other countries in the world, what we do about nuclear powers out there, how we relate to the arab world and israel
policy: do women get equal pay to men? what benefits do veterans get?
economic outcomes: how can we get better jobs that make more money?

wasn't Obama supposed to "fix" this? All three points have gotten worse

But hey, go ahead and vote for the same.

[Anonymous]

OP, I hear modern medicine can help with paranoia. Seek help.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:After seeing more about the alt-right and 4chan influencing online polls for Trump after the debate, I'm really interested to know how they are affecting the conversation here on DCUM.

My guess is that there are quite a few people trolling here. 4chan users are tech savvy enough to spoof IP addresses so it's not as obvious to Jeff that the same 400-lb dudes in basements are sh*tposting over and over, but I think it's pretty likely given the overwhelmingly Democratic demographics of the DC area and surroundings.

Either that, or the Trump posters are so much more active here because they don't have jobs like the Clinton supporters do.

Agree. The conversations on here do not reflect local politics at all, and frankly, I don't think they even represent the country as a whole. I think there's a lot of Trumpster trolling, especially since many of the conversations are so repetitive and focus on minor sh^t, and not on, you know, diplomacy, policy, and economic outcomes.

And you seriously believe the average American cares about this?

+1 People care about their own pocketbooks, and, to some extent, the lack of integrity and honesty in their leaders (which is why both Trump and Hillary are so disliked).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know it is hard for some of you to believe that there are actually Trump supporters out there.
Just watch one of his rallies. It is not far fetched to believe they are posting here too.
So sorry your little liberal bubble on DCUM is no longer so liberal anymore.

As a liberal I don't care that republican pigs are posting here, if anything I love reading their cyber meltdowns

And I love seeing the liberal, hypocritical douche bags shoving camels down their throats while shaking their tiny fists in impotent rage.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
i hope so.

diplomacy: how we get along with other countries in the world, what we do about nuclear powers out there, how we relate to the arab world and israel
policy: do women get equal pay to men? what benefits do veterans get?
economic outcomes: how can we get better jobs that make more money?

wasn't Obama supposed to "fix" this? All three points have gotten worse

But hey, go ahead and vote for the same.

The president only has so much power when there is a Congress who has actively worked to make sure things he worked on were blocked.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know it is hard for some of you to believe that there are actually Trump supporters out there.
Just watch one of his rallies. It is not far fetched to believe they are posting here too.
So sorry your little liberal bubble on DCUM is no longer so liberal anymore.

As a liberal I don't care that republican pigs are posting here, if anything I love reading their cyber meltdowns

And I love seeing the liberal, hypocritical douche bags shoving camels down their throats while shaking their tiny fists in impotent rage.

Does this mean something to you?