Fillmore killed....again.

[Anonymous]

We are at a fillmore school with no space for art. This means no art other than crayons at desks. Period. Dcps doesnt care and has no plan.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We are at a fillmore school with no space for art. This means no art other than crayons at desks. Period. Dcps doesnt care and has no plan.

A qualified and good art teacher can go tons more than just crayons if he/she teachers in a regular classroom.

Go see one in action and open your mind.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We are at a fillmore school with no space for art. This means no art other than crayons at desks. Period. Dcps doesnt care and has no plan.

A qualified and good art teacher can go tons more than just crayons if he/she teachers in a regular classroom.

Go see one in action and open your mind.

Is this currently happening somewhere in dcps where we can see, as you suggest? Or is this purely theoretical?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And after you have observed kids enjoying a bus ride and helped keep them safe, go in and observe every class you can. You would come out with a different view point.

So what you're saying is that travelling on a bus with parent volunteers is more valuable than having arts educators on-site who can collaborate in person with PE and academic educators to create a holistic learning environment?

Fillmore was created because of the absence of arts education back in the bad old days during the drug wars when few IB people sent their kids to Deal voluntarily. DCPS did not have staffing models and budget allocations to ensure arts, PE, and library "specials" for all kids. There was no lottery or HRCS or triple digit waitlists. Few if any kids attended their IB school and sucking up to the Oyster-Adams principal could get a gringo into pre-K. (Or you could sleep out in front of the school like a new iPhone release.)

Fillmore briefly added an East campus (i.e. low income, non-white families) to the West campus (white parents from Wards 2 and 3). But Michelle Rhee, darling of the WotP set, put in place mandatory staffing of "specials" and providing high quality educators at schools across the city.

Highly-effective elementary arts instructors will tell you that dedicated classrooms and performing space are just icing on the cake. First, you need supportive administrators and patient parents.

You're not saying anything on-point here, although history can be interesting. So, DCPS decides to kill Fillmore, and replace it with what? From your perspective - because I'd like to understand what you are getting at -- please assess the replacement "what" and let us know whether you think it would compare remotely to what Fillmore currently provides to students; heck, even whether it would compare similarly to what every other DCPS school currently has.

DCPS is not replacing it. They are taking arts and music away from these schools.

No. We are at a Fillmore school. OUr budget for this year would have included an art teacher position if Fillmore hadn't been restored. I will be happy to have my kid receive art instruction in school rather than spending time on the bus. I'd also rather have him taught by a credentialed classroom teacher than an artiste with no classroom management skills.

Fillmore costs substantially more per pupil than art in the school. It really isn't justifiable. Parents worried about overcrowding at schools should not scream and yell when the District redraws boundaries.

+1000

Rational and coherent parent, thank you.

[Anonymous]

It wasnt the fillmore parents screaming about the boundary changes. That was eaton and others. Our schools are overcrowded and need relief.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Don't forget to add the salary for the art teacher; about $90K.

$90 K for elementary school art teaching? I'm in the wrong job.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why people send their children to public school in the district.

Then why bother talking with you.

I don't understand why a loser like you is bloviating on a subject that doesn't matter to you. Your time must not be worth much.

[Anonymous]

Our school has zero space for an art room or a music room. And zero room for trailers.
In addition, many kids in need are loaned an instrument for the year at very low cost. These kids would not realistically get music lessons another way.

I'm not sure what our school will do without Fillmore. Sad and frustrating situation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Our school has zero space for an art room or a music room. And zero room for trailers.
In addition, many kids in need are loaned an instrument for the year at very low cost. These kids would not realistically get music lessons another way.

I'm not sure what our school will do without Fillmore. Sad and frustrating situation.

Is your school at capacity? With percentage of IB ?

Eliminate Pk3 and focus on the compulsory grades?

lots of solutions to make space for art without the rest of us paying for this boondoggle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our school has zero space for an art room or a music room. And zero room for trailers.
In addition, many kids in need are loaned an instrument for the year at very low cost. These kids would not realistically get music lessons another way.

I'm not sure what our school will do without Fillmore. Sad and frustrating situation.

Is your school at capacity? With percentage of IB ?

Eliminate Pk3 and focus on the compulsory grades?

lots of solutions to make space for art without the rest of us paying for this boondoggle.

WOTP including our school there is no pk3 and limited pk4.

Only oob are about 30 SN kids placed there by dcps. School is 80 over capacity so it wouldnt help much.

Any other ideas? I'm still waiting for the flippant 06:21 poster to give an example of other schools succeeding in the same situation.

[Anonymous]

Fillmore goes to Marie Reed. IN classroom they can do this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our school has zero space for an art room or a music room. And zero room for trailers.
In addition, many kids in need are loaned an instrument for the year at very low cost. These kids would not realistically get music lessons another way.

I'm not sure what our school will do without Fillmore. Sad and frustrating situation.

Is your school at capacity? With percentage of IB ?

Eliminate Pk3 and focus on the compulsory grades?

lots of solutions to make space for art without the rest of us paying for this boondoggle.

WOTP including our school there is no pk3 and limited pk4.

Only oob are about 30 SN kids placed there by dcps. School is 80 over capacity so it wouldnt help much.

Any other ideas? I'm still waiting for the flippant 06:21 poster to give an example of other schools succeeding in the same situation.

Marie Reed has Fillmore come to them.

Go visit any charter school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Don't forget to add the salary for the art teacher; about $90K.

$90 K for elementary school art teaching? I'm in the wrong job.

Includes benefits. So probably more like 70k salary

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Our school has zero space for an art room or a music room. And zero room for trailers.
In addition, many kids in need are loaned an instrument for the year at very low cost. These kids would not realistically get music lessons another way.

I'm not sure what our school will do without Fillmore. Sad and frustrating situation.

Is your school at capacity? With percentage of IB ?

Eliminate Pk3 and focus on the compulsory grades?

lots of solutions to make space for art without the rest of us paying for this boondoggle.

WOTP including our school there is no pk3 and limited pk4.

Only oob are about 30 SN kids placed there by dcps. School is 80 over capacity so it wouldnt help much.

Any other ideas? I'm still waiting for the flippant 06:21 poster to give an example of other schools succeeding in the same situation.

Besides the fact the Fillmore is already doing it, I can't figure out what school you are talking about. Only 30 OOB SN students? You can't be talking about Stoddert can you?

[Anonymous]

^ what do you mean "Fillmore is already doing it". Fillmore has dedicated arts and music rooms with all of the needed supplies. The Fillmore schools have neither the space nor supplies at their home schools. How is this supposed to work?