What do you think of Janney?

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Anonymous wrote:As always, every thread about Janney turns into a full-contact sport. A bunch of overfed, overbleached, hyper-competitive moms trying desperately to prove that the choice which makes them so miserable is the BEST THING EVER (else why be so insistent?). There's such a thing as trying too hard. No other school seems so pathologically needy to prove itself (because they all really want to be at a private but they spent so much for Janney that now they can't).

The problem is there is an equally present pathological need to disparage by those that have children that attend other nearby schools that are strong schools but without the longstanding reputation.

No school is perfect. If you are considering the public schools as a reason for your house selection, please visit the schools and get a feel for yourself. If your child is a few years away from attending, know it won't necessarily be exactly the same when you get there but likely close to what you expect.

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Must drink the Kool-aid!

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Janney test scores are not fantastic, considering the MASSIVE advantages that the student body starts out with.

I mean, the test of a school isn't whether they can do well with a kid whose parents have been supplementing at home since birth - it's how much the school can actually teach the kid.

There are more diverse schools with better scores, suggesting those schools are doing a better job teaching in school.

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I'm a parent of a K and 2nd grader. We're pretty happy with the school. The teachers have been great and I love the new principal. The attitudes of a handful of parents can be a bit annoying (high maintinence / my precious snowflake types) but overall there are tons of great families that we have made friends with.

FWIW keep in mind that most people have only sent their kids to one ES, so it's pretty much impossible to make a comparison based on experience.

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Anonymous wrote:As always, every thread about Janney turns into a full-contact sport. A bunch of overfed, overbleached, hyper-competitive moms trying desperately to prove that the choice which makes them so miserable is the BEST THING EVER (else why be so insistent?). There's such a thing as trying too hard. No other school seems so pathologically needy to prove itself (because they all really want to be at a private but they spent so much for Janney that now they can't).

Did you actually read this thread? Aside from one super smug Janney poster (who may have been a troll), there was none of that. Instead, there were multiple attacks on the school and its parents before any Janney parents had even come out of the woodwork with their response to OP's question. Then, understandably, there were some posters parrying those attacks, and a few Janney parents who sounded nothing but reasonable. Then it all devolved into arguments about Hearst and Janney's supposed lack of diversity.

As an outside observer of these threads (I don't have kids at Janney), what I see is a pathological need to take down a particularly successful school and disparage its parents who are perceived as too full of themselves. Your post is a particularly aggressive example. As a previous poster noted, it's either parents at surrounding schools that are similarly good, or it's EOTP parents who are worn out by their lottery woes and resentful of those who live IB for one of DCPS's best functioning elementaries.

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Anonymous wrote:What are your experiences there? I have heard from multiple people that it's the best public (by far) in DC. Do you agree? I am debating a move at the moment.

Definitely not one of the best bay far. It's definitely top 5 in my opinion. Test scores wise it's top 5 but not #1. The thing it has going for it over other schools that score higher is that it feeds to Deal. If you compare subgroups, Hearst does better and also feeds to Deal but smaller and more diverse community. It's a great school. Personally, I wouldn't choose it if I had the choice. It's a little too crowded and not as diverse as I'd like.

Not "diverse" ???

Janney is very diverse. There are all types and many languages spoken there.

White, black, European, Indian, Asian, Hispanic ,and mixed race kids, how much more diverse do you want it ???

New PP. Yes, not diverse neither racially or socioeconomically.

Agree. Diverse means a good amount of everything not 75% of one thing and a smattering of others.

Deal, Wilson, and Walls are diverse -- no majority population at any of them. Hearst mirrors the city demographics almost to a kid -- also no majority population. Ross is 51% white, but still diverse. Interesting note, only Murch has someone in every category, no 0% categories (but still 62% white - very international, but still majority white).

Hardy is way diverse, and how many Janney parents would trade their right to send their kids to Deal for Hardy. Come on, raise your hands. We can't see them.

Good point. Hardy also has someone in every category, no 0%s; but, like Ross, it has a majority population (57% black), so it is not as diverse as Deal, Wilson, and Walls. Tiny too! I'd expect more families to be interested if they prefer small schools. It seems like everything people love about Hearst exists at Hardy.

Last I checked, this thread was about Janney. And while Hearst seems to be a nice, up-and-coming school, the fact is that there's no one in the Janney district who would choose Hearst over Janney. And it's certainly the case that no one with a right to go to Deal would give that up for Hardy. The qualitative difference there just can't be overlooked.

If by up and coming you mean superior sub group test scores, then you are correct.

Explain, in plain English.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think Hearst is an excellent school. In fact, I would rank it higher than Janney.

-signed, a Hearst Parent

Clearly the parents who live in Prince George's rank Hearst pretty high.

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Anonymous wrote:As always, every thread about Janney turns into a full-contact sport. A bunch of overfed, overbleached, hyper-competitive moms trying desperately to prove that the choice which makes them so miserable is the BEST THING EVER (else why be so insistent?). There's such a thing as trying too hard. No other school seems so pathologically needy to prove itself (because they all really want to be at a private but they spent so much for Janney that now they can't).

Funny I see it as the other parents trying their best to prove that they are not the unwashed masses by putting Janny down due to their insecurities.

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Anonymous wrote:What are your experiences there? I have heard from multiple people that it's the best public (by far) in DC. Do you agree? I am debating a move at the moment.

Definitely not one of the best bay far. It's definitely top 5 in my opinion. Test scores wise it's top 5 but not #1. The thing it has going for it over other schools that score higher is that it feeds to Deal. If you compare subgroups, Hearst does better and also feeds to Deal but smaller and more diverse community. It's a great school. Personally, I wouldn't choose it if I had the choice. It's a little too crowded and not as diverse as I'd like.

Not "diverse" ???

Janney is very diverse. There are all types and many languages spoken there.

White, black, European, Indian, Asian, Hispanic ,and mixed race kids, how much more diverse do you want it ???

New PP. Yes, not diverse neither racially or socioeconomically.

Agree. Diverse means a good amount of everything not 75% of one thing and a smattering of others.

Deal, Wilson, and Walls are diverse -- no majority population at any of them. Hearst mirrors the city demographics almost to a kid -- also no majority population. Ross is 51% white, but still diverse. Interesting note, only Murch has someone in every category, no 0% categories (but still 62% white - very international, but still majority white).

Hardy is way diverse, and how many Janney parents would trade their right to send their kids to Deal for Hardy. Come on, raise your hands. We can't see them.

Good point. Hardy also has someone in every category, no 0%s; but, like Ross, it has a majority population (57% black), so it is not as diverse as Deal, Wilson, and Walls. Tiny too! I'd expect more families to be interested if they prefer small schools. It seems like everything people love about Hearst exists at Hardy.

Last I checked, this thread was about Janney. And while Hearst seems to be a nice, up-and-coming school, the fact is that there's no one in the Janney district who would choose Hearst over Janney. And it's certainly the case that no one with a right to go to Deal would give that up for Hardy. The qualitative difference there just can't be overlooked.

If by up and coming you mean superior sub group test scores, then you are correct.

Explain, in plain English.

NP.
White kids performed better on PARCC at Hearst than Janney
Non Low-income students perform better in PARCC at Hearst than Janney.

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Anonymous wrote:As always, every thread about Janney turns into a full-contact sport. A bunch of overfed, overbleached, hyper-competitive moms trying desperately to prove that the choice which makes them so miserable is the BEST THING EVER (else why be so insistent?). There's such a thing as trying too hard. No other school seems so pathologically needy to prove itself (because they all really want to be at a private but they spent so much for Janney that now they can't).

Did you actually read this thread? Aside from one super smug Janney poster (who may have been a troll), there was none of that. Instead, there were multiple attacks on the school and its parents before any Janney parents had even come out of the woodwork with their response to OP's question. Then, understandably, there were some posters parrying those attacks, and a few Janney parents who sounded nothing but reasonable. Then it all devolved into arguments about Hearst and Janney's supposed lack of diversity.

As an outside observer of these threads (I don't have kids at Janney), what I see is a pathological need to take down a particularly successful school and disparage its parents who are perceived as too full of themselves. Your post is a particularly aggressive example. As a previous poster noted, it's either parents at surrounding schools that are similarly good, or it's EOTP parents who are worn out by their lottery woes and resentful of those who live IB for one of DCPS's best functioning elementaries.

PP - Where do your kids go to school?

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Anonymous wrote:What are your experiences there? I have heard from multiple people that it's the best public (by far) in DC. Do you agree? I am debating a move at the moment.

Definitely not one of the best bay far. It's definitely top 5 in my opinion. Test scores wise it's top 5 but not #1. The thing it has going for it over other schools that score higher is that it feeds to Deal. If you compare subgroups, Hearst does better and also feeds to Deal but smaller and more diverse community. It's a great school. Personally, I wouldn't choose it if I had the choice. It's a little too crowded and not as diverse as I'd like.

Not "diverse" ???

Janney is very diverse. There are all types and many languages spoken there.

White, black, European, Indian, Asian, Hispanic ,and mixed race kids, how much more diverse do you want it ???

New PP. Yes, not diverse neither racially or socioeconomically.

Agree. Diverse means a good amount of everything not 75% of one thing and a smattering of others.

Deal, Wilson, and Walls are diverse -- no majority population at any of them. Hearst mirrors the city demographics almost to a kid -- also no majority population. Ross is 51% white, but still diverse. Interesting note, only Murch has someone in every category, no 0% categories (but still 62% white - very international, but still majority white).

Hardy is way diverse, and how many Janney parents would trade their right to send their kids to Deal for Hardy. Come on, raise your hands. We can't see them.

Good point. Hardy also has someone in every category, no 0%s; but, like Ross, it has a majority population (57% black), so it is not as diverse as Deal, Wilson, and Walls. Tiny too! I'd expect more families to be interested if they prefer small schools. It seems like everything people love about Hearst exists at Hardy.

Last I checked, this thread was about Janney. And while Hearst seems to be a nice, up-and-coming school, the fact is that there's no one in the Janney district who would choose Hearst over Janney. And it's certainly the case that no one with a right to go to Deal would give that up for Hardy. The qualitative difference there just can't be overlooked.

If by up and coming you mean superior sub group test scores, then you are correct.

Explain, in plain English.

NP.
White kids performed better on PARCC at Hearst than Janney
Non Low-income students perform better in PARCC at Hearst than Janney.

Hearst is something like only 30% IB. So some white kids from higher income families perform better on PARCC, Big surprise. How do African-American students score at Hearst? Low-income family students? What time and resources do teachers have to spend on remedial attention for those who perform significantly below a number of their classmates? What level do classroom teachers have to teach to, to reach most of the students?

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Anonymous wrote:As always, every thread about Janney turns into a full-contact sport. A bunch of overfed, overbleached, hyper-competitive moms trying desperately to prove that the choice which makes them so miserable is the BEST THING EVER (else why be so insistent?). There's such a thing as trying too hard. No other school seems so pathologically needy to prove itself (because they all really want to be at a private but they spent so much for Janney that now they can't).

Did you actually read this thread? Aside from one super smug Janney poster (who may have been a troll), there was none of that. Instead, there were multiple attacks on the school and its parents before any Janney parents had even come out of the woodwork with their response to OP's question. Then, understandably, there were some posters parrying those attacks, and a few Janney parents who sounded nothing but reasonable. Then it all devolved into arguments about Hearst and Janney's supposed lack of diversity.

As an outside observer of these threads (I don't have kids at Janney), what I see is a pathological need to take down a particularly successful school and disparage its parents who are perceived as too full of themselves. Your post is a particularly aggressive example. As a previous poster noted, it's either parents at surrounding schools that are similarly good, or it's EOTP parents who are worn out by their lottery woes and resentful of those who live IB for one of DCPS's best functioning elementaries.

PP - Where do your kids go to school?

At an EOTP school.

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Anonymous wrote:What are your experiences there? I have heard from multiple people that it's the best public (by far) in DC. Do you agree? I am debating a move at the moment.

Definitely not one of the best bay far. It's definitely top 5 in my opinion. Test scores wise it's top 5 but not #1. The thing it has going for it over other schools that score higher is that it feeds to Deal. If you compare subgroups, Hearst does better and also feeds to Deal but smaller and more diverse community. It's a great school. Personally, I wouldn't choose it if I had the choice. It's a little too crowded and not as diverse as I'd like.

Not "diverse" ???

Janney is very diverse. There are all types and many languages spoken there.

White, black, European, Indian, Asian, Hispanic ,and mixed race kids, how much more diverse do you want it ???

Pp you quoted. I said "not as diverse as I'd like it" note the "I".
As an AA parent, I would prefer my kid not be an only. Yes, it's selfish opinion but that's why I said it was for me.
I didn't say one negative thing about the school. I think it's a great school. I would prefer Hearst or Eaton who apparently do better in testing and have a diverse student body. People keep saying "well what about DCPS that is 90% black", I'm not talking about those schools, I'm comparing to other WOTP schools. I wouldn't want my kid at a 90% black school either.

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Anonymous wrote:What are your experiences there? I have heard from multiple people that it's the best public (by far) in DC. Do you agree? I am debating a move at the moment.

Definitely not one of the best bay far. It's definitely top 5 in my opinion. Test scores wise it's top 5 but not #1. The thing it has going for it over other schools that score higher is that it feeds to Deal. If you compare subgroups, Hearst does better and also feeds to Deal but smaller and more diverse community. It's a great school. Personally, I wouldn't choose it if I had the choice. It's a little too crowded and not as diverse as I'd like.

Not "diverse" ???

Janney is very diverse. There are all types and many languages spoken there.

White, black, European, Indian, Asian, Hispanic ,and mixed race kids, how much more diverse do you want it ???

New PP. Yes, not diverse neither racially or socioeconomically.

Agree. Diverse means a good amount of everything not 75% of one thing and a smattering of others.

Deal, Wilson, and Walls are diverse -- no majority population at any of them. Hearst mirrors the city demographics almost to a kid -- also no majority population. Ross is 51% white, but still diverse. Interesting note, only Murch has someone in every category, no 0% categories (but still 62% white - very international, but still majority white).

Hardy is way diverse, and how many Janney parents would trade their right to send their kids to Deal for Hardy. Come on, raise your hands. We can't see them.

Good point. Hardy also has someone in every category, no 0%s; but, like Ross, it has a majority population (57% black), so it is not as diverse as Deal, Wilson, and Walls. Tiny too! I'd expect more families to be interested if they prefer small schools. It seems like everything people love about Hearst exists at Hardy.

Last I checked, this thread was about Janney. And while Hearst seems to be a nice, up-and-coming school, the fact is that there's no one in the Janney district who would choose Hearst over Janney. And it's certainly the case that no one with a right to go to Deal would give that up for Hardy. The qualitative difference there just can't be overlooked.

If by up and coming you mean superior sub group test scores, then you are correct.

Explain, in plain English.

NP.
White kids performed better on PARCC at Hearst than Janney
Non Low-income students perform better in PARCC at Hearst than Janney.

Hearst is something like only 30% IB. So some white kids from higher income families perform better on PARCC, Big surprise. How do African-American students score at Hearst? Low-income family students? What time and resources do teachers have to spend on remedial attention for those who perform significantly below a number of their classmates? What level do classroom teachers have to teach to, to reach most of the students?

As mentioned upthread, it still is a big sign that when you're comparing subgroups that Janney is being beat by many other schools. Why do you not care about that? Hearst and Eaton pretty well with AA scores as well as non farm. I think Eaton, Stoddert, and Hearst do amongst the best in the city.

How about Janney? How do they do with AA and low income? Oh, that's right, there's not enough of them to know.

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Anonymous wrote:What are your experiences there? I have heard from multiple people that it's the best public (by far) in DC. Do you agree? I am debating a move at the moment.

Definitely not one of the best bay far. It's definitely top 5 in my opinion. Test scores wise it's top 5 but not #1. The thing it has going for it over other schools that score higher is that it feeds to Deal. If you compare subgroups, Hearst does better and also feeds to Deal but smaller and more diverse community. It's a great school. Personally, I wouldn't choose it if I had the choice. It's a little too crowded and not as diverse as I'd like.

Not "diverse" ???

Janney is very diverse. There are all types and many languages spoken there.

White, black, European, Indian, Asian, Hispanic ,and mixed race kids, how much more diverse do you want it ???

New PP. Yes, not diverse neither racially or socioeconomically.

Agree. Diverse means a good amount of everything not 75% of one thing and a smattering of others.

Deal, Wilson, and Walls are diverse -- no majority population at any of them. Hearst mirrors the city demographics almost to a kid -- also no majority population. Ross is 51% white, but still diverse. Interesting note, only Murch has someone in every category, no 0% categories (but still 62% white - very international, but still majority white).

Hardy is way diverse, and how many Janney parents would trade their right to send their kids to Deal for Hardy. Come on, raise your hands. We can't see them.

Good point. Hardy also has someone in every category, no 0%s; but, like Ross, it has a majority population (57% black), so it is not as diverse as Deal, Wilson, and Walls. Tiny too! I'd expect more families to be interested if they prefer small schools. It seems like everything people love about Hearst exists at Hardy.

Last I checked, this thread was about Janney. And while Hearst seems to be a nice, up-and-coming school, the fact is that there's no one in the Janney district who would choose Hearst over Janney. And it's certainly the case that no one with a right to go to Deal would give that up for Hardy. The qualitative difference there just can't be overlooked.

If by up and coming you mean superior sub group test scores, then you are correct.

Explain, in plain English.

NP.
White kids performed better on PARCC at Hearst than Janney
Non Low-income students perform better in PARCC at Hearst than Janney.

Hearst is something like only 30% IB. So some white kids from higher income families perform better on PARCC, Big surprise. How do African-American students score at Hearst? Low-income family students? What time and resources do teachers have to spend on remedial attention for those who perform significantly below a number of their classmates? What level do classroom teachers have to teach to, to reach most of the students?

As mentioned upthread, it still is a big sign that when you're comparing subgroups that Janney is being beat by many other schools. Why do you not care about that? Hearst and Eaton pretty well with AA scores as well as non farm. I think Eaton, Stoddert, and Hearst do amongst the best in the city.

How about Janney? How do they do with AA and low income? Oh, that's right, there's not enough of them to know.

NP here. Frankly, as a parent whose kids will likely attend Janney in a few years, those minute difference is recent test scores don't concern me at all. I am confident my kids will be fine at Janney, and they probably would also be fine at Hearst or Stoddert or Eaton. This competition about overall similar test scores is insane, and it's funny to watch how on a thread where barely anyone has touted Janney as the best, there is such a concerted effort to point out that it isn't based on the recent PARCC. This really says more about you all than about Janney.