What do you think of Janney?

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Anonymous wrote:How does Janney compare to Key?

close but slightly ahead in top tier order rankings:
1. Janney
2. Key
3. Lafayette
4. Mann

But you left out the handicap of having to deal with Janney parents, which moves it down the list several pegs.

But Janney has the Deal feeder, which pops it right back up there.

See, this can go on forever. There is always something.

NP I'll play. I actually ranked these schools for lottery. I am already IB for Deal (not at any of these). I also value scores which bring Janney down a little.

1. Eaton
2. Stoddert
3. Hearst
4. Mann
5. Lafayette
6. Janney
7. Murch (mainly due to renovation)
8. Ross

^^^ Fair enough. That was my posting, and I was mostly being silly. But your point is well taken.

Hearst seems to be rising, but Eaton consistently seems to punch below its weight. You'd expect that being located in the middle of Cleveland Park Eaton would be a stellar school, but compared to most in Ward 3 it's not top tier. Why?

Because all the families who live there are either menopausal (no children in ES) or (and this should be obvious) too wealthy for public school. Janney parents, by way of contrast, are desperate for high quality public schools - they can't afford private. Everyone in Eaton's catchment outgrew it or can afford better.

This is hardly mysterious.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How does Janney compare to Key?

close but slightly ahead in top tier order rankings:
1. Janney
2. Key
3. Lafayette
4. Mann

But you left out the handicap of having to deal with Janney parents, which moves it down the list several pegs.

But Janney has the Deal feeder, which pops it right back up there.

See, this can go on forever. There is always something.

NP I'll play. I actually ranked these schools for lottery. I am already IB for Deal (not at any of these). I also value scores which bring Janney down a little.

1. Eaton
2. Stoddert
3. Hearst
4. Mann
5. Lafayette
6. Janney
7. Murch (mainly due to renovation)
8. Ross

^^^ Fair enough. That was my posting, and I was mostly being silly. But your point is well taken.

Hearst seems to be rising, but Eaton consistently seems to punch below its weight. You'd expect that being located in the middle of Cleveland Park Eaton would be a stellar school, but compared to most in Ward 3 it's not top tier. Why?

Different dynamic: Eaton is high OOB. IB families go private.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How does Janney compare to Key?

close but slightly ahead in top tier order rankings:
1. Janney
2. Key
3. Lafayette
4. Mann

But you left out the handicap of having to deal with Janney parents, which moves it down the list several pegs.

But Janney has the Deal feeder, which pops it right back up there.

See, this can go on forever. There is always something.

NP I'll play. I actually ranked these schools for lottery. I am already IB for Deal (not at any of these). I also value scores which bring Janney down a little.

1. Eaton
2. Stoddert
3. Hearst
4. Mann
5. Lafayette
6. Janney
7. Murch (mainly due to renovation)
8. Ross

^^^ Fair enough. That was my posting, and I was mostly being silly. But your point is well taken.

Hearst seems to be rising, but Eaton consistently seems to punch below its weight. You'd expect that being located in the middle of Cleveland Park Eaton would be a stellar school, but compared to most in Ward 3 it's not top tier. Why?

Different dynamic: Eaton is high OOB. IB families go private.

There are a number of IB families at Eaton, but yes agree that the high OOB creates a drag on the school being in the top tier for Upper NW

[Anonymous]

Does anyone have any feedback for Mann?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How does Janney compare to Key?

close but slightly ahead in top tier order rankings:
1. Janney
2. Key
3. Lafayette
4. Mann

But you left out the handicap of having to deal with Janney parents, which moves it down the list several pegs.

But Janney has the Deal feeder, which pops it right back up there.

See, this can go on forever. There is always something.

NP I'll play. I actually ranked these schools for lottery. I am already IB for Deal (not at any of these). I also value scores which bring Janney down a little.

1. Eaton
2. Stoddert
3. Hearst
4. Mann
5. Lafayette
6. Janney
7. Murch (mainly due to renovation)
8. Ross

^^^ Fair enough. That was my posting, and I was mostly being silly. But your point is well taken.

Hearst seems to be rising, but Eaton consistently seems to punch below its weight. You'd expect that being located in the middle of Cleveland Park Eaton would be a stellar school, but compared to most in Ward 3 it's not top tier. Why?

Not top tier in what sense? Just because the IB/OOB %? Eaton performs best in almost every measure. I'm the one who ranked them. I am also AA. Eaton has some of the best scores for AA students as well as #1 or #2 for white students.

[Anonymous]

At back to school night in a video the PTA co presidents said how many partner teacher salaries they pay. It was t all of them. They don't get health insurance or 401K. There is a small health stipend of a few hundred dollars. The salary is very low, $20,000. Dcps starts out equally low for these positions but there is 401k etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:At back to school night in a video the PTA co presidents said how many partner teacher salaries they pay. It was t all of them. They don't get health insurance or 401K. There is a small health stipend of a few hundred dollars. The salary is very low, $20,000. Dcps starts out equally low for these positions but there is 401k etc.

Well, either they are over-marketing the job title, or they are violating some labor laws.

[Anonymous]

This whole thread is ridiculous.

To a person my experience with teachers has been wonderful and I hope they all are well compensated with good benefits.

My understanding is that the PTA does not generally pay salaries directly (but I missed the presentation at open house so maybe this has changed), they generally cover other expenses so that there is more money left in the budget for salaries paid by DCPS, it would always be preferable to do that.

I don't get the vitriol towards the idea that there could be more than one certified teacher in a single classroom. If you have 40 kids that could have two teachers in two classrooms, why couldn't you have two teachers for those same 40 kids in one room? And if this is allowed, where is the prohibition that makes it impossible in a 30 student class? And frankly why do you care so much about it if your kids don't go there.

I am so pleased Janney's test scores have dropped, maybe fewer people will be obsessed with the school. I certainly did not send my kids there for the test prep and I love that they do not pressure kids about the tests.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This whole thread is ridiculous.

To a person my experience with teachers has been wonderful and I hope they all are well compensated with good benefits.

My understanding is that the PTA does not generally pay salaries directly (but I missed the presentation at open house so maybe this has changed), they generally cover other expenses so that there is more money left in the budget for salaries paid by DCPS, it would always be preferable to do that.

I don't get the vitriol towards the idea that there could be more than one certified teacher in a single classroom. If you have 40 kids that could have two teachers in two classrooms, why couldn't you have two teachers for those same 40 kids in one room? And if this is allowed, where is the prohibition that makes it impossible in a 30 student class? And frankly why do you care so much about it if your kids don't go there.

I am so pleased Janney's test scores have dropped, maybe fewer people will be obsessed with the school. I certainly did not send my kids there for the test prep and I love that they do not pressure kids about the tests.

Some people care about workers' rights, wherever they work. It's frankly one of thee reasons many in DC hate charters - because they don't pay teachers well or offer them the benefits of a unionized teaching position. In exchange for tighter credentials / hiring criteria teachers receive great benefits and a modicum of job security.

To have people who are called teachers but not compensated as such, working side by side with unionized teachers, strikes them as wrong.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This whole thread is ridiculous.

To a person my experience with teachers has been wonderful and I hope they all are well compensated with good benefits.

My understanding is that the PTA does not generally pay salaries directly (but I missed the presentation at open house so maybe this has changed), they generally cover other expenses so that there is more money left in the budget for salaries paid by DCPS, it would always be preferable to do that.

I don't get the vitriol towards the idea that there could be more than one certified teacher in a single classroom. If you have 40 kids that could have two teachers in two classrooms, why couldn't you have two teachers for those same 40 kids in one room? And if this is allowed, where is the prohibition that makes it impossible in a 30 student class? And frankly why do you care so much about it if your kids don't go there.

I am so pleased Janney's test scores have dropped, maybe fewer people will be obsessed with the school. I certainly did not send my kids there for the test prep and I love that they do not pressure kids about the tests.

Some people care about workers' rights, wherever they work. It's frankly one of thee reasons many in DC hate charters - because they don't pay teachers well or offer them the benefits of a unionized teaching position. In exchange for tighter credentials / hiring criteria teachers receive great benefits and a modicum of job security.

To have people who are called teachers but not compensated as such, working side by side with unionized teachers, strikes them as wrong.

I'd rather see teachers not in the WTU, affectionately known among many parents as "WTF," for the lackadaisical attitude of its leaders and many of its members.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How does Janney compare to Key?

close but slightly ahead in top tier order rankings:
1. Janney
2. Key
3. Lafayette
4. Mann

But you left out the handicap of having to deal with Janney parents, which moves it down the list several pegs.

But Janney has the Deal feeder, which pops it right back up there.

See, this can go on forever. There is always something.

NP I'll play. I actually ranked these schools for lottery. I am already IB for Deal (not at any of these). I also value scores which bring Janney down a little.

1. Eaton
2. Stoddert
3. Hearst
4. Mann
5. Lafayette
6. Janney
7. Murch (mainly due to renovation)
8. Ross

^^^ Fair enough. That was my posting, and I was mostly being silly. But your point is well taken.

Hearst seems to be rising, but Eaton consistently seems to punch below its weight. You'd expect that being located in the middle of Cleveland Park Eaton would be a stellar school, but compared to most in Ward 3 it's not top tier. Why?

Not top tier in what sense? Just because the IB/OOB %? Eaton performs best in almost every measure. I'm the one who ranked them. I am also AA. Eaton has some of the best scores for AA students as well as #1 or #2 for white students.

Source? Sorry, dear, but Eaton is not not JKLM tier.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How does Janney compare to Key?

close but slightly ahead in top tier order rankings:
1. Janney
2. Key
3. Lafayette
4. Mann

But you left out the handicap of having to deal with Janney parents, which moves it down the list several pegs.

But Janney has the Deal feeder, which pops it right back up there.

See, this can go on forever. There is always something.

NP I'll play. I actually ranked these schools for lottery. I am already IB for Deal (not at any of these). I also value scores which bring Janney down a little.

1. Eaton
2. Stoddert
3. Hearst
4. Mann
5. Lafayette
6. Janney
7. Murch (mainly due to renovation)
8. Ross

^^^ Fair enough. That was my posting, and I was mostly being silly. But your point is well taken.

Hearst seems to be rising, but Eaton consistently seems to punch below its weight. You'd expect that being located in the middle of Cleveland Park Eaton would be a stellar school, but compared to most in Ward 3 it's not top tier. Why?

Not top tier in what sense? Just because the IB/OOB %? Eaton performs best in almost every measure. I'm the one who ranked them. I am also AA. Eaton has some of the best scores for AA students as well as #1 or #2 for white students.

Source? Sorry, dear, but Eaton is not not JKLM tier.

Just stop it, that talk of "tiers" and "JKLM" as some sacred superior category is outdated and tiresome.

- signed, Janney parent

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This whole thread is ridiculous.

To a person my experience with teachers has been wonderful and I hope they all are well compensated with good benefits.

My understanding is that the PTA does not generally pay salaries directly (but I missed the presentation at open house so maybe this has changed), they generally cover other expenses so that there is more money left in the budget for salaries paid by DCPS, it would always be preferable to do that.

I don't get the vitriol towards the idea that there could be more than one certified teacher in a single classroom. If you have 40 kids that could have two teachers in two classrooms, why couldn't you have two teachers for those same 40 kids in one room? And if this is allowed, where is the prohibition that makes it impossible in a 30 student class? And frankly why do you care so much about it if your kids don't go there.

I am so pleased Janney's test scores have dropped, maybe fewer people will be obsessed with the school. I certainly did not send my kids there for the test prep and I love that they do not pressure kids about the tests.

Some people care about workers' rights, wherever they work. It's frankly one of thee reasons many in DC hate charters - because they don't pay teachers well or offer them the benefits of a unionized teaching position. In exchange for tighter credentials / hiring criteria teachers receive great benefits and a modicum of job security.

To have people who are called teachers but not compensated as such, working side by side with unionized teachers, strikes them as wrong.

Flat out wrong. Some pay as well as DCPS, and obviously offer vastly superior working conditions. Read a few teacher blogs of new teachers in DCPS and you'll get a sense of the hazard pay some of them deserve. Meanwhile, educators can teach at a charter for better wages and working conditions that are worth a magnitude of difference in quality-of-life points.

[Anonymous]

Can we get back to the really cute moms at jamboree?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can we get back to the really cute moms at jamboree?

Janney mommies like their wine.