Women who wants equal pay

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Anonymous wrote:there is no pay gap once you normalize for major, quality of school attended, and number of hours worked

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This. Needs. Repeating.

Not in my experience. it also depends on the size of the employer and their budget. My husband and I met in graduate school. We are in the same profession. We both work full time. I am paid less than he is, working for a small employer. Yes, I am looking for a new job, but when employers base their new salaries on salary history, I'll be at a disadvantage.

No you don't tell your salary. If they want you they will make a good offer not based on your salary history but what teh job pays. Salary info is private and your current employer will not give that out.

It's generally required in my experience. You can try to put it off, but a lot of times these days, there's an online form where you have to put it in to even put in your app. It's not like the old days where you could choose not to mention it in your cover letter (even if requested.

Even when I was working with a recruiter recently, I put it off as long as possible but had to disclose to be in the candidate pool.

It's also often required for contractor jobs because USAID and the like won't pay the contractor based on a rate that's more than X% higher than your old rate/ salary.

Ok white woman working in finance here, and I've always been paid less than my male counterparts and I'm a lot less full of shit and have more substantive skills and get good reviews - it's not a performance thing.

But, for the online apps, I usually just put in 000,000 or 000,001 or something to push it thru. I want them to offer me a salary based on me, not my current wages.

Yup. Why do you think that is, PP?

For the online apps, I usually have to certify that everything is true and correct, so I'd be concerned about putting in a $1 salary history.

Finance lady I know you can take this because you are in finance. Only a moron would stay at a place like that knowing they were getting paid less for the same work when they thought they were superior. A man would have left this company years ago.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:there is no pay gap once you normalize for major, quality of school attended, and number of hours worked

+100

This. Needs. Repeating.

Not in my experience. it also depends on the size of the employer and their budget. My husband and I met in graduate school. We are in the same profession. We both work full time. I am paid less than he is, working for a small employer. Yes, I am looking for a new job, but when employers base their new salaries on salary history, I'll be at a disadvantage.

No you don't tell your salary. If they want you they will make a good offer not based on your salary history but what teh job pays. Salary info is private and your current employer will not give that out.

It's generally required in my experience. You can try to put it off, but a lot of times these days, there's an online form where you have to put it in to even put in your app. It's not like the old days where you could choose not to mention it in your cover letter (even if requested.

Even when I was working with a recruiter recently, I put it off as long as possible but had to disclose to be in the candidate pool.

It's also often required for contractor jobs because USAID and the like won't pay the contractor based on a rate that's more than X% higher than your old rate/ salary.

Ok white woman working in finance here, and I've always been paid less than my male counterparts and I'm a lot less full of shit and have more substantive skills and get good reviews - it's not a performance thing.

But, for the online apps, I usually just put in 000,000 or 000,001 or something to push it thru. I want them to offer me a salary based on me, not my current wages.

Yup. Why do you think that is, PP?

For the online apps, I usually have to certify that everything is true and correct, so I'd be concerned about putting in a $1 salary history.

Finance lady I know you can take this because you are in finance. Only a moron would stay at a place like that knowing they were getting paid less for the same work when they thought they were superior. A man would have left this company years ago.

Just like Trump said, ... if you don't like being sexually harassed get another job.

Do you even see how ignorant your response is?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am 28 years old and single no kids. I noticed that a lot of mothers took the day off last Monday to take pictures, and I noticed on Facebook that why they stayed home.

You get one chance to parent your children.

I have leave; I use it. I don't take advantage of it either. However, I WILL use it to spend time with my kids.

If you're that negative at 28, good luck either finding a partner and having kids or staying long-term with a partner.

You should like a real asshole by your tone.

[Anonymous]

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Exactly this. Salary history creates a vicious cycle, particularly for women. Women are also at a disadvantage at the beginning of the cycle, as we are taught to take what's offered and not negotiate; negotiations themselves can be seen as a negative when coming from a woman. These are all things that need to change when talking about salaries.

taught?

In the colloquial sense, yes. Of course, no one ever sits us down and explicitly tells us not to negotiate. But there are culturally implicit things that girls are "supposed to do" that are antithetical to negotiation: be quiet, accept what's offered, not argue, etc. There have been lots of articles about this recently, particularly about the impulse to apologize for everything. Here's a tongue-in-cheek blog post that illustrates what I'm talking about: http://everydayfeminism.com/2016/08/non-threatening-leadership-women/

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:there is no pay gap once you normalize for major, quality of school attended, and number of hours worked

+100

This. Needs. Repeating.

Not in my experience. it also depends on the size of the employer and their budget. My husband and I met in graduate school. We are in the same profession. We both work full time. I am paid less than he is, working for a small employer. Yes, I am looking for a new job, but when employers base their new salaries on salary history, I'll be at a disadvantage.

Those are all personal choices. You're choosing to work for a small employer. So there is no grand master plan to keep women's wages low. If there were, I'd hire only woman knowing Incould get away with paying them less.

Where is this magical place where you choose your job instead of them choosing you? Oh wait, it's call white male world.

I'm a minority female. I've turned down three jobs because I didn't like the compensation/manager/commute. Are you in Soviet Russia?

You should go to the local women's shelter and help them apply for jobs. You seem to have a knack for it. Report back how successful you are just "choosing a job" for them.

Actually, I do.

of course you do . . .

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: OP is not saying much of anything comprehensible.

I don’t have the time or patience to discern such dribble.

This is funny, because you're trying so hard to sound smart, but you mean "drivel."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote: OP is not saying much of anything comprehensible.

I don’t have the time or patience to discern such dribble.

This is funny, because you're trying so hard to sound smart, but you mean "drivel."

No, I actually meant “dribble.” Like the saliva coming out of one’s mouth. It was like drops of words with little meaning.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: OP is not saying much of anything comprehensible.

I don’t have the time or patience to discern such dribble.

This is funny, because you're trying so hard to sound smart, but you mean "drivel."

No, I actually meant “dribble.” Like the saliva coming out of one’s mouth. It was like drops of words with little meaning.

Uh huh.

[Anonymous]

It is fascinating to me how someone who is not a woman, and does not have children, somehow thinks their opinion has any weight on what women and specifically, women with kids - *should* be doing.

OP, I bet you have lots of personal experience to guide your opinion on abortion rights, too.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: OP is not saying much of anything comprehensible.

I don’t have the time or patience to discern such dribble.

This is funny, because you're trying so hard to sound smart, but you mean "drivel."

No, I actually meant “dribble.” Like the saliva coming out of one’s mouth. It was like drops of words with little meaning.

Someone needs a dictionary, fast.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:there is no pay gap once you normalize for major, quality of school attended, and number of hours worked

+100

This. Needs. Repeating.

Not in my experience. it also depends on the size of the employer and their budget. My husband and I met in graduate school. We are in the same profession. We both work full time. I am paid less than he is, working for a small employer. Yes, I am looking for a new job, but when employers base their new salaries on salary history, I'll be at a disadvantage.

I just don't understand how women can ever equalize salary, since ALL employers base the new salary on salary history.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:there is no pay gap once you normalize for major, quality of school attended, and number of hours worked

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[Anonymous]

The last week of August is so damn busy at the office. How could one day show up an hour late or leave early or WFH leading to the Labor Day weekend. Way too much work to do, meeting to attend and trips to travel for. What in earth is OP talking about. I've been pulling 60 hour weeks all of August, it's the busiest time of the year!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: OP is not saying much of anything comprehensible.

I don’t have the time or patience to discern such dribble.

This is funny, because you're trying so hard to sound smart, but you mean "drivel."

No, I actually meant “dribble.” Like the saliva coming out of one’s mouth. It was like drops of words with little meaning.

Now this is getting good....

Say la vee. (And I do mean Say the V, like victory save for my verbage)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am 28 years old and single no kids. I noticed that a lot of mothers took the day off last Monday to take pictures, and I noticed on Facebook that why they stayed home.

You get one chance to parent your children.

I have leave; I use it. I don't take advantage of it either. However, I WILL use it to spend time with my kids.

If you're that negative at 28, good luck either finding a partner and having kids or staying long-term with a partner.

You should like a real asshole by your tone.

I'm a NP, The 28 year old is right. You are the a-hole for assuming your life is more important than theirs is. Shame.