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I don't love Trump and think he's said some pretty stupid things. That being said, some of it has been twisted by the media. If you look at his actual positions, he's more moderate than any of the candidates. And for the Muslim poster- he never said he'd prohibit Muslims from entering the country. He said he's put a moratorium on it until we can do better background checks. I fully support this- look at what's been happening in Europe.
I voted for Obama twice and I'll vote for Trump if he's the nominee. If it were between Cruz and Hillary, I'd either sit out this race or hold my nose and vote for Hillary. |
Not to mention the country. He will make us a laughingstock. |
I can see and hear him on TV. I don't need it twisted by the media. We see him for who he is, and he is God-awful. |
You're overlooking the registry part. The registry of Muslims IN America who may be citizens. That's so wrong and disgusting I don't understand how it doesn't turn your stomach. It smacks of the Jewish ghettos in Europe. And if it doesn't bother you that he's contemplating registering and tracking Muslims, would it bother you if next he registers Jews, or Catholics, or anyone with German ancestry, or anyone who's ever had an abortion, etc? Most of these things wouldn't occur to Trump -- I'll grant you he's not a true idealogue like Cruz or Rick Santorum -- but if he establishes this power, what's to stop the next president or Congress from expanding it? I know, I know, you'll say I'm fear-mongering and none of this would ever come to pass. People said that about Hitler. He couldn't really mean it. Well, he meant it, and 12 million people died because of it. Whole communities were wiped out. Undesirables were massacred. Even a hint of anything similar in our country should be roundly condemned, and yet people embrace it. It makes me sick. Plus, if you are only talking violence, gun violence by American citizens kills way more people than terrorist attacks by illegally entered Muslims. When I think about whether I'm likely to die violently in the next decade, statistically gun violence, mugging, or car accident is much more likely than a terrorist attack. Not that a terrorist attack couldn't happen. It's just that statistically these other things are more likely to get me first. |
Welllll, I'm not crazy about Trump but he is not lowest of the low. Please. Did he molest congressional pages? Did he plant stories of a former POW war candidate of fathering an illegitimate black child? Did he jam phone lines of campaign workers to prevent them from getting out the vote? Did he organize a riot to shut down contested vote counting? And so on. It doesn't help your cause to make vague generic statements against Trump, and why is it necessary if what you say is true? |
+1000 HRC as POTUS. That is crazy. |
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If you're voting for Trump, you are aligning yourself with things like this:
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/28/julia-ioffe-journalist-melania-trump-antisemitic-abuse?CMP=share_btn_tw |
Lovely. I will say I don't for a moment believe that Trump himself is anti-Semitic (in the sense of thinking Jews are evil, though he clearly does subscribe to some stereotypes). I don't even really think he is racist. I do think he is a misogynist. But the problem for me is that even without being these things, he somehow inspires a rabid following among people who are violently anti-Semitic and racist and misogynist. Because he is willing to use rhetoric that appeals to them even if he doesn't believe it. Hence the refusal to disavow David Duke, etc. I find it almost worse that a man who doesn't even believe this stuff is willing to exploit it. It's indicative of serious character flaws and it makes me seriously question his judgment and integrity. |
That's it exactly. He cynically and skillfully exploits resentment and hate in the pursuit of power. He appeals to the worst in people and makes them feel OK, even good, expressing their most bigoted feelings. |
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I know that Hillary is a flawed candidate, and she is hated by many people in this country. In a normal election year, she might really have a battle on her hands. But unbelievably, incredibly, she is going to run against someone who is actually viewed MORE unfavorably. Something like 70 PERCENT of people have an unfavorable view of Trump, including HALF of Republicans. He is loathed by women, Latinos, blacks and polls poorly with young voters as well.
If you think someone can win the electoral college without pulling in strong numbers of women, minorities and young voters, you are going to be really shocked in November. |
Just like they were shocked in November 2012. |
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I will vote for Trump. I don't publicize my political views and don't think any of my friends or coworkers would ever guess. You can pretend that all of Trump's supporters are uneducated, racist, white men if it makes you feel better. You are lying to yourself though.
- female physician (and a minority too!) |
| Funny, I haven't seen a single Trump sticker or sign in NoVA. Lot's of quiet support I'm guessing from closet racists/xenophobes. |
| Seriously, have we ever had two more hated major party front-runners? |
No, Trump just cheated on his wives, cheated people out of their money at Trump University, filed bankruptcy numerous times impacting thousands, and much, much more. Those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. |