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Anonymous wrote:We don't have health insurance on our dogs, though we should have. We've spent considerable money keeping one of our dogs alive and healthy -- no regrets. We assumed the responsibility to care for him to the very best of our abilities and resources when we adopted him and brought him into our family, and that's what we'll always do. He is a wonderful companion and very much a member of our family.


Yes, that. If you have a pet who experiences even a minor accident or curable illness, the vets bills can add up quickly. It's actually less expensive to get the pet insurance. Having lived with a diabetic cat, if I had it to do again, I'd absolutely get insurance.
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Anonymous wrote:What a joy to come home to a dog! Our dog is very much a part of our family, she travels with us, sleeps with us and my son ADORES her! And she adores him. We would be heartbroken if something happened to her, so she has health insurance. I think I would be the one who couldn't see her go, and my husband would be the glue. Truthfully. I think people who love animals are kinder, more compassionate and loving. Because of the special relationship between our son and dog, we'd probably consider adopting soon after her passing-I don't think we could be a dogless household. Really, who wants to go out in the rain/sleet/snow and walk a dog, or clean up shit, feed, bathe, train, get pissed because all the toys have chew marks, make incredibly nasty sounds while she's awake and sleeps-ME There is something very special about a dog.

or there's something very wrong about some people.
how can one pay health insurance to a dog while there are children out there dying with simple curable diseases because they can't afford medical attention.


Easily. It makes financial sense. When you get an animal you are committing to it's physical needs. Medical care is one of them. Domesticated animals are completely reliant on humans for their livelihood. Most normal people understand this.
Any kid that can't afford medical attention should be covered by medicaid. How does not paying for your dog's medical care help others who can't afford insurance? Your logic, I'm using the term very generously, makes no sense at all. If you don't get it, you just don't get it.


You didn't get MY logic. Why pay for dog insurance when you can use the money to pay for a child's medical needs? It follows the same line of thought as why go through IVF when you can adopt?
Anyway, I rest my case. And let me run downstairs to put the dogs in the garage - where they belong.
Anonymous
Why pay for dog insurance when you can use the money to pay for a child's medical needs? It follows the same line of thought as why go through IVF when you can adopt?


If I thought that way, I wouldn't have a dog. But because I do have a dog (two!), I'll take the best care of them that I can. That is the moral thing to do.
Anonymous
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Why pay for dog insurance when you can use the money to pay for a child's medical needs? It follows the same line of thought as why go through IVF when you can adopt?


If I thought that way, I wouldn't have a dog. But because I do have a dog (two!), I'll take the best care of them that I can. That is the moral thing to do.


Agreed.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What a joy to come home to a dog! Our dog is very much a part of our family, she travels with us, sleeps with us and my son ADORES her! And she adores him. We would be heartbroken if something happened to her, so she has health insurance. I think I would be the one who couldn't see her go, and my husband would be the glue. Truthfully. I think people who love animals are kinder, more compassionate and loving. Because of the special relationship between our son and dog, we'd probably consider adopting soon after her passing-I don't think we could be a dogless household. Really, who wants to go out in the rain/sleet/snow and walk a dog, or clean up shit, feed, bathe, train, get pissed because all the toys have chew marks, make incredibly nasty sounds while she's awake and sleeps-ME There is something very special about a dog.

or there's something very wrong about some people.
how can one pay health insurance to a dog while there are children out there dying with simple curable diseases because they can't afford medical attention.


Easily. It makes financial sense. When you get an animal you are committing to it's physical needs. Medical care is one of them. Domesticated animals are completely reliant on humans for their livelihood. Most normal people understand this.
Any kid that can't afford medical attention should be covered by medicaid. How does not paying for your dog's medical care help others who can't afford insurance? Your logic, I'm using the term very generously, makes no sense at all. If you don't get it, you just don't get it.


You didn't get MY logic. Why pay for dog insurance when you can use the money to pay for a child's medical needs? It follows the same line of thought as why go through IVF when you can adopt?
Anyway, I rest my case. And let me run downstairs to put the dogs in the garage - where they belong.


This doesn't make sense for so many reasons. You could say it about everything. I'm sorry you don't understand it.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What a joy to come home to a dog! Our dog is very much a part of our family, she travels with us, sleeps with us and my son ADORES her! And she adores him. We would be heartbroken if something happened to her, so she has health insurance. I think I would be the one who couldn't see her go, and my husband would be the glue. Truthfully. I think people who love animals are kinder, more compassionate and loving. Because of the special relationship between our son and dog, we'd probably consider adopting soon after her passing-I don't think we could be a dogless household. Really, who wants to go out in the rain/sleet/snow and walk a dog, or clean up shit, feed, bathe, train, get pissed because all the toys have chew marks, make incredibly nasty sounds while she's awake and sleeps-ME There is something very special about a dog.

or there's something very wrong about some people.
how can one pay health insurance to a dog while there are children out there dying with simple curable diseases because they can't afford medical attention.


Easily. It makes financial sense. When you get an animal you are committing to it's physical needs. Medical care is one of them. Domesticated animals are completely reliant on humans for their livelihood. Most normal people understand this.
Any kid that can't afford medical attention should be covered by medicaid. How does not paying for your dog's medical care help others who can't afford insurance? Your logic, I'm using the term very generously, makes no sense at all. If you don't get it, you just don't get it.


You didn't get MY logic. Why pay for dog insurance when you can use the money to pay for a child's medical needs? It follows the same line of thought as why go through IVF when you can adopt?
Anyway, I rest my case. And let me run downstairs to put the dogs in the garage - where they belong.


This doesn't make sense for so many reasons. You could say it about everything. I'm sorry you don't understand it.


I was thinking the same thing. "Why pay for ______________ when you can use the money to pay for a child's medical needs?" Did you go out to dinner this week? Hit Starbucks on the way to work? Splurge on a new pair of summer sandals? You know, you really could have used that money to pay for a child's medical needs...
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What a joy to come home to a dog! Our dog is very much a part of our family, she travels with us, sleeps with us and my son ADORES her! And she adores him. We would be heartbroken if something happened to her, so she has health insurance. I think I would be the one who couldn't see her go, and my husband would be the glue. Truthfully. I think people who love animals are kinder, more compassionate and loving. Because of the special relationship between our son and dog, we'd probably consider adopting soon after her passing-I don't think we could be a dogless household. Really, who wants to go out in the rain/sleet/snow and walk a dog, or clean up shit, feed, bathe, train, get pissed because all the toys have chew marks, make incredibly nasty sounds while she's awake and sleeps-ME There is something very special about a dog.

or there's something very wrong about some people.
how can one pay health insurance to a dog while there are children out there dying with simple curable diseases because they can't afford medical attention.


Easily. It makes financial sense. When you get an animal you are committing to it's physical needs. Medical care is one of them. Domesticated animals are completely reliant on humans for their livelihood. Most normal people understand this.
Any kid that can't afford medical attention should be covered by medicaid. How does not paying for your dog's medical care help others who can't afford insurance? Your logic, I'm using the term very generously, makes no sense at all. If you don't get it, you just don't get it.


You didn't get MY logic. Why pay for dog insurance when you can use the money to pay for a child's medical needs? It follows the same line of thought as why go through IVF when you can adopt?
Anyway, I rest my case. And let me run downstairs to put the dogs in the garage - where they belong.


This doesn't make sense for so many reasons. You could say it about everything. I'm sorry you don't understand it.


I was thinking the same thing. "Why pay for ______________ when you can use the money to pay for a child's medical needs?" Did you go out to dinner this week? Hit Starbucks on the way to work? Splurge on a new pair of summer sandals? You know, you really could have used that money to pay for a child's medical needs...


It does make sense. The problem is our individualistic mentality. If we all gave up something in favor of a person in need we all would have a little bit less and they all would have a lot more.
Anonymous
It does make sense. The problem is our individualistic mentality. If we all gave up something in favor of a person in need we all would have a little bit less and they all would have a lot more.


I hope you're posting from the public library. I can't believe you pay for internet access when you could be paying for a child's medical needs!

Normal people take care of their pets. This doesn't make them negligent citizens of the world; it makes them responsible pet owners. Are you saying people should never have pets? Your argument would make more sense in another context (luxury vehicles, fancy clothes, etc.). In this context, it is deeply flawed.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What a joy to come home to a dog! Our dog is very much a part of our family, she travels with us, sleeps with us and my son ADORES her! And she adores him. We would be heartbroken if something happened to her, so she has health insurance. I think I would be the one who couldn't see her go, and my husband would be the glue. Truthfully. I think people who love animals are kinder, more compassionate and loving. Because of the special relationship between our son and dog, we'd probably consider adopting soon after her passing-I don't think we could be a dogless household. Really, who wants to go out in the rain/sleet/snow and walk a dog, or clean up shit, feed, bathe, train, get pissed because all the toys have chew marks, make incredibly nasty sounds while she's awake and sleeps-ME There is something very special about a dog.

or there's something very wrong about some people.
how can one pay health insurance to a dog while there are children out there dying with simple curable diseases because they can't afford medical attention.


Easily. It makes financial sense. When you get an animal you are committing to it's physical needs. Medical care is one of them. Domesticated animals are completely reliant on humans for their livelihood. Most normal people understand this.
Any kid that can't afford medical attention should be covered by medicaid. How does not paying for your dog's medical care help others who can't afford insurance? Your logic, I'm using the term very generously, makes no sense at all. If you don't get it, you just don't get it.


You didn't get MY logic. Why pay for dog insurance when you can use the money to pay for a child's medical needs? It follows the same line of thought as why go through IVF when you can adopt?
Anyway, I rest my case. And let me run downstairs to put the dogs in the garage - where they belong.


This doesn't make sense for so many reasons. You could say it about everything. I'm sorry you don't understand it.


I was thinking the same thing. "Why pay for ______________ when you can use the money to pay for a child's medical needs?" Did you go out to dinner this week? Hit Starbucks on the way to work? Splurge on a new pair of summer sandals? You know, you really could have used that money to pay for a child's medical needs...


Exactly. It would never end. Using the reasoning here why would you get a dog and buy it food when there are hungry people out there? There are a lot of people that need money out there. I mean why stop at kids? Are adults important too? Not to mention all the people around the world that could use help. If anyone thinks not paying for an animal's medical care could somehow change this, they are delusional. It's very simple. If you don't want to pay for an animal's care, then don't get one.
Anonymous
My point was, you could nitpick everyone's spending to death. Every dollar I spend, outside of my most basic necessities, could theoretically be better spent on someone else. And if I gave to "children's medical needs," why not to homeless families? Why not domestic violence shelters? Why not, why not, why not...

My point was, her argument was flawed. I can afford to fulfill my responsibilities to the family pet *and* give to charitable causes.
Anonymous
I can't believe this would even rise to the level of a debate. But then again there are people that put their dogs on chains and make them live outdoors on it all year long cause "that's where they belong".
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
It does make sense. The problem is our individualistic mentality. If we all gave up something in favor of a person in need we all would have a little bit less and they all would have a lot more.


I hope you're posting from the public library. I can't believe you pay for internet access when you could be paying for a child's medical needs!

Normal people take care of their pets. This doesn't make them negligent citizens of the world; it makes them responsible pet owners. Are you saying people should never have pets? Your argument would make more sense in another context (luxury vehicles, fancy clothes, etc.). In this context, it is deeply flawed.

you're flaming away and you didn't follow my previous posts. I wont' even waste time answering you. If you want it to make sense, to follow the logic you should read the previous posts.
Anonymous
I always like the "you disagree with me, thus you didn't understand my post" approach.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I always like the "you disagree with me, thus you didn't understand my post" approach.


Disagreements are fine, but that's not what this was. This person's reasoning was based on a false logic that even she herself doesn't live by. How could she really believe this and own two dogs that she buys food for instead of giving that money to people in need? Do you get the difference?
Anonymous
The money you spent on your computer and internet connection - shouldn't that have been given to people in need?
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