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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well said, OP. I totally understand. Our pets are our family members and will be devastated when they die. We plan to have them cremated, also.

To the rude poster . . . no one asked your opinion. Your response was rude, lacked compassion or empathy, and was non-responsive to OP's question. Please go away and keep quiet.

Just because you don't like what I say it doesn't mean I have to go away and keep quiet. You sound like my 2yo when I say things he doesn't want to hear. He closes his ears and says GO AWAY!
LOL

Pets have to be loved and cared for. They're great playmates for children and definitely should have a special place in the family but treat them like human beings is EXAGGERATION! It reminds me of a neighbor that I had growing up that placed a plate at the dinner table for her poodle and the dog would eat with the family every night on the table. Pets have their own place - in the garage playing with the kids. Comparing them with human beings and taking feelings for them too far will just hurt later on. We should learn to control our emotions and save our energy for things that really matter. Losing a pet hurts, I've lost my 18year old dog and my mom gave away our 3yo dog that showed he didn't like children. It hurt but we got over it. People are people. Pets are pets.

[Anonymous]

Sorry, I have tried not to respond to this, but I just can't stay away.

Gosh, how do you people act when a real human being from your family dies?

I do think it takes a strong person to deal with the death of a pet while holding the family together, and doing it alone is quite difficult. Here's my horror story that I referred to, and I am still upset weeks later. DH was out of town when our dog became unexpectedly ill. I took her to the vet (kids in tow), she was treated and we took her home after waiting there for hours. I slept on the couch in my clothes that night because I had a bad feeling - she began to die on the living room floor. I frantically called a neighbor to watch the kids, comforted the dog, carried her to the car and raced the vet in the middle of the night. THere I watched a team try to resuscitate her while bawling on the cellphone to my DH. I had to make the final call and tell them to stop the resuscitation, then go home and tell my kids plus clean up the mess on the floor that is dying. It is traumatic, messy and not at all peaceful. I do think I was strong to do it all alone, and the images of those last few minutes stayed in my head for weeks. You're a cold person to suggest that the death of a pet means nothing. But then you probably wouldn't have taken her to the vet or paid for treatment, either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well said, OP. I totally understand. Our pets are our family members and will be devastated when they die. We plan to have them cremated, also.

To the rude poster . . . no one asked your opinion. Your response was rude, lacked compassion or empathy, and was non-responsive to OP's question. Please go away and keep quiet.

Just because you don't like what I say it doesn't mean I have to go away and keep quiet. You sound like my 2yo when I say things he doesn't want to hear. He closes his ears and says GO AWAY!
LOL

Pets have to be loved and cared for. They're great playmates for children and definitely should have a special place in the family but treat them like human beings is EXAGGERATION! It reminds me of a neighbor that I had growing up that placed a plate at the dinner table for her poodle and the dog would eat with the family every night on the table. Pets have their own place - in the garage playing with the kids. Comparing them with human beings and taking feelings for them too far will just hurt later on. We should learn to control our emotions and save our energy for things that really matter. Losing a pet hurts, I've lost my 18year old dog and my mom gave away our 3yo dog that showed he didn't like children. It hurt but we got over it. People are people. Pets are pets.

Not PP, but I must agree. Who the hell asked for your opinion? Your rude comments are of no value here. If this is how you feel fine, but it's really not necessary for you to come in here and try to piss on others feelings as we share in this thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sorry, I have tried not to respond to this, but I just can't stay away.

Gosh, how do you people act when a real human being from your family dies?

I do think it takes a strong person to deal with the death of a pet while holding the family together, and doing it alone is quite difficult. Here's my horror story that I referred to, and I am still upset weeks later. DH was out of town when our dog became unexpectedly ill. I took her to the vet (kids in tow), she was treated and we took her home after waiting there for hours. I slept on the couch in my clothes that night because I had a bad feeling - she began to die on the living room floor. I frantically called a neighbor to watch the kids, comforted the dog, carried her to the car and raced the vet in the middle of the night. THere I watched a team try to resuscitate her while bawling on the cellphone to my DH. I had to make the final call and tell them to stop the resuscitation, then go home and tell my kids plus clean up the mess on the floor that is dying. It is traumatic, messy and not at all peaceful. I do think I was strong to do it all alone, and the images of those last few minutes stayed in my head for weeks. You're a cold person to suggest that the death of a pet means nothing. But then you probably wouldn't have taken her to the vet or paid for treatment, either.

I never said it means nothing. I said it should mean less than a human being. I'm usually the colder type and I think I take emotional stressful situations a way easier than people that drown into emotions. I recover faster and I don't let it affect the other areas of my life. I'm happy for being like this and I don't think it's wrong. I would never pay for excessive treatment like chemotherapy and stuff. There are children out there that dye of cancer because parents can't afford the medicines. I'll always treat pets with love and compassion but they'll always be PETS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well said, OP. I totally understand. Our pets are our family members and will be devastated when they die. We plan to have them cremated, also.

To the rude poster . . . no one asked your opinion. Your response was rude, lacked compassion or empathy, and was non-responsive to OP's question. Please go away and keep quiet.

Just because you don't like what I say it doesn't mean I have to go away and keep quiet. You sound like my 2yo when I say things he doesn't want to hear. He closes his ears and says GO AWAY!
LOL

Pets have to be loved and cared for. They're great playmates for children and definitely should have a special place in the family but treat them like human beings is EXAGGERATION! It reminds me of a neighbor that I had growing up that placed a plate at the dinner table for her poodle and the dog would eat with the family every night on the table. Pets have their own place - in the garage playing with the kids. Comparing them with human beings and taking feelings for them too far will just hurt later on. We should learn to control our emotions and save our energy for things that really matter. Losing a pet hurts, I've lost my 18year old dog and my mom gave away our 3yo dog that showed he didn't like children. It hurt but we got over it. People are people. Pets are pets.

it's an open forum so I assume all the users have the right to post here, right? no matter what they believe in. I do think women are the emotional bond that holds the family together in both good and bad times. but I still think that it's exaggeration to treat pets like people and to face the loss of a pet like a family member. (by the way, I like my pets more than I like a few family members)

another thing - I already apologized for being rude, I didn't intend to hurt or to sound rude, but my opinion is still the same.

Not PP, but I must agree. Who the hell asked for your opinion? Your rude comments are of no value here. If this is how you feel fine, but it's really not necessary for you to come in here and try to piss on others feelings as we share in this thread.

it's an open forum so I assume all the users have the right to post here, right? no matter what they believe in. I do think women are the emotional bond that holds the family together in both good and bad times. but I still think that it's exaggeration to treat pets like people and to face the loss of a pet like a family member. (by the way, I like my pets more than I like a few family members)


another thing - I already apologized for being rude, I didn't intend to hurt or to sound rude, but my opinion is still the same.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

I never said it means nothing. I said it should mean less than a human being. I'm usually the colder type and I think I take emotional stressful situations a way easier than people that drown into emotions. I recover faster and I don't let it affect the other areas of my life. I'm happy for being like this and I don't think it's wrong. I would never pay for excessive treatment like chemotherapy and stuff. There are children out there that dye of cancer because parents can't afford the medicines. I'll always treat pets with love and compassion but they'll always be PETS.

But here's the thing: some of us can afford both and don't have to get into relative worth. That seems to be a hang up for you. I will never have to choose between chemo for my dog or chemo for my kid.

I don't think anyone is saying that they would feel exactly the same if they lost a child as they do when they lose a pet. I think they are saying you can form a very, very deep bond with an animal that you allow into your home and heart (with whatever limits are approrpiate for you - I'm a big dog person so we don't even let the dog into the dining room because of the begging problem). You seem to be saying it's "just" a pet and making judgments about how you would react. Other people can react in a way they feel appropriate given the bond they feel. I do think your admission that you are a "colder type" is why you are having trouble seeing the other POV.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I never said it means nothing. I said it should mean less than a human being. I'm usually the colder type and I think I take emotional stressful situations a way easier than people that drown into emotions. I recover faster and I don't let it affect the other areas of my life. I'm happy for being like this and I don't think it's wrong. I would never pay for excessive treatment like chemotherapy and stuff. There are children out there that dye of cancer because parents can't afford the medicines. I'll always treat pets with love and compassion but they'll always be PETS.

But here's the thing: some of us can afford both and don't have to get into relative worth. That seems to be a hang up for you. I will never have to choose between chemo for my dog or chemo for my kid.

I don't think anyone is saying that they would feel exactly the same if they lost a child as they do when they lose a pet. I think they are saying you can form a very, very deep bond with an animal that you allow into your home and heart (with whatever limits are approrpiate for you - I'm a big dog person so we don't even let the dog into the dining room because of the begging problem). You seem to be saying it's "just" a pet and making judgments about how you would react. Other people can react in a way they feel appropriate given the bond they feel. I do think your admission that you are a "colder type" is why you are having trouble seeing the other POV.

You're right and we're here to expose our POVs no matter what they are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I never said it means nothing. I said it should mean less than a human being. I'm usually the colder type and I think I take emotional stressful situations a way easier than people that drown into emotions. I recover faster and I don't let it affect the other areas of my life. I'm happy for being like this and I don't think it's wrong. I would never pay for excessive treatment like chemotherapy and stuff. There are children out there that dye of cancer because parents can't afford the medicines. I'll always treat pets with love and compassion but they'll always be PETS.

I won't suggest it's wrong either (in the same way you seem suggest "warmer" people are), but this makes me very sad for you. Doubt that'll make it past the permafrost, but...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I never said it means nothing. I said it should mean less than a human being. I'm usually the colder type and I think I take emotional stressful situations a way easier than people that drown into emotions. I recover faster and I don't let it affect the other areas of my life. I'm happy for being like this and I don't think it's wrong. I would never pay for excessive treatment like chemotherapy and stuff. There are children out there that dye of cancer because parents can't afford the medicines. I'll always treat pets with love and compassion but they'll always be PETS.

I won't suggest it's wrong either (in the same way you seem suggest "warmer" people are), but this makes me very sad for you. Doubt that'll make it past the permafrost, but...

I was not suggesting it war wrong. I was just stating that IMO it's exaggeration. Grief over the loss of a relative, funeral rituals, memorial services, luncheons for human beings I understand but all the paraphernalia for a pet is just overboard
Anyway, the world is made of all kinds of people and we're better get used to it. The fact that we don't like something doesn't make it disappear.

[Anonymous]

It is overboard in your opinion. And, that opinion was NOT relevant to OPs original post over her grief and having to keep it together. So, your interjection your irrelevant opinions into this thread.

[Anonymous]

I'm usually the colder type

Gee, you don't say.

[Anonymous]

What a joy to come home to a dog! Our dog is very much a part of our family, she travels with us, sleeps with us and my son ADORES her! And she adores him. We would be heartbroken if something happened to her, so she has health insurance. I think I would be the one who couldn't see her go, and my husband would be the glue. Truthfully. I think people who love animals are kinder, more compassionate and loving. Because of the special relationship between our son and dog, we'd probably consider adopting soon after her passing-I don't think we could be a dogless household. Really, who wants to go out in the rain/sleet/snow and walk a dog, or clean up shit, feed, bathe, train, get pissed because all the toys have chew marks, make incredibly nasty sounds while she's awake and sleeps-ME There is something very special about a dog.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What a joy to come home to a dog! Our dog is very much a part of our family, she travels with us, sleeps with us and my son ADORES her! And she adores him. We would be heartbroken if something happened to her, so she has health insurance. I think I would be the one who couldn't see her go, and my husband would be the glue. Truthfully. I think people who love animals are kinder, more compassionate and loving. Because of the special relationship between our son and dog, we'd probably consider adopting soon after her passing-I don't think we could be a dogless household. Really, who wants to go out in the rain/sleet/snow and walk a dog, or clean up shit, feed, bathe, train, get pissed because all the toys have chew marks, make incredibly nasty sounds while she's awake and sleeps-ME There is something very special about a dog.

or there's something very wrong about some people.
how can one pay health insurance to a dog while there are children out there dying with simple curable diseases because they can't afford medical attention.

[Anonymous]

We don't have health insurance on our dogs, though we should have. We've spent considerable money keeping one of our dogs alive and healthy -- no regrets. We assumed the responsibility to care for him to the very best of our abilities and resources when we adopted him and brought him into our family, and that's what we'll always do. He is a wonderful companion and very much a member of our family.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What a joy to come home to a dog! Our dog is very much a part of our family, she travels with us, sleeps with us and my son ADORES her! And she adores him. We would be heartbroken if something happened to her, so she has health insurance. I think I would be the one who couldn't see her go, and my husband would be the glue. Truthfully. I think people who love animals are kinder, more compassionate and loving. Because of the special relationship between our son and dog, we'd probably consider adopting soon after her passing-I don't think we could be a dogless household. Really, who wants to go out in the rain/sleet/snow and walk a dog, or clean up shit, feed, bathe, train, get pissed because all the toys have chew marks, make incredibly nasty sounds while she's awake and sleeps-ME There is something very special about a dog.

or there's something very wrong about some people.
how can one pay health insurance to a dog while there are children out there dying with simple curable diseases because they can't afford medical attention.

Easily. It makes financial sense. When you get an animal you are committing to it's physical needs. Medical care is one of them. Domesticated animals are completely reliant on humans for their livelihood. Most normal people understand this.
Any kid that can't afford medical attention should be covered by medicaid. How does not paying for your dog's medical care help others who can't afford insurance? Your logic, I'm using the term very generously, makes no sense at all. If you don't get it, you just don't get it.