Bad behavior in K

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OMG, it's the first two weeks of kindergarten. The teacher is aware and has spoken to parents and is keeping an eye out. We have gone insane and started labeling any unkind behavior as "bullying", which is a gross misuse of the word and diminishes its meaning by using it in any situation where kids are having trouble getting along or small children are having trouble with impulse control. It's unfortunate, but this kind of behavior is not unusual when kids are overwhelmed in a new, stimulating environment. It is very likely to sort itself out within the month.

Kids that age are not the most reliable reporters, either. So keep in touch with the teacher, but do not freak out.

Where's the fuckin' love button? +1,000,000,000

[Anonymous]

^^^ The "love button" would be you getting off your lazy butt and teaching your kid how to act appropriately and not hurt others. Otherwise, GET OUT!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^^^ The "love button" would be you getting off your lazy butt and teaching your kid how to act appropriately and not hurt others. Otherwise, GET OUT!!!

Woa sweetie. Did you just really yell "get out"?

Reminder why I don't go WOTP. You people are gross.

[Anonymous]

Yes, behaving like a good citizen (and teaching your kid the same) is such a drag. Safety in the classroom - why would anyone want that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes, behaving like a good citizen (and teaching your kid the same) is such a drag. Safety in the classroom - why would anyone want that?

This must be your first child. You realize a 5 year old is not a reliable source of information on classroom behavior.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, behaving like a good citizen (and teaching your kid the same) is such a drag. Safety in the classroom - why would anyone want that?

This must be your first child. You realize a 5 year old is not a reliable source of information on classroom behavior.

I'm not sure this was the OP who said that. It seems to me the OP has a pretty rational view on the whole thing and is just asking for some feedback. Other people have jumped on her question and turned it into some safety vs bullying/IB vs OOB/JKLM vs not alarmist thread.

OP: I think you are right to notice what your child is saying; you are doing the right thing by keeping a dialog going while recognizing you are talking to a 5 year old. I think those that have mentioned following up with the teacher makes sense - if s/he knows about it, s/he can say so and talk about what is normal vs not this time of year, what s/he is doing to teach her students about how to treat each other, or whatever else s/he would be inclined to say. Beyond that, I think, unless you are truly alarmed by what is going on, letting the teachers handle it at this point makes the most sense.

If the behavior persists, and your child is suffering for it, then you step it up. Until then, small reaction for small problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^^^ The "love button" would be you getting off your lazy butt and teaching your kid how to act appropriately and not hurt others. Otherwise, GET OUT!!!

Good grief... You must be the teacher whose only ideas about discipline are putting the kid in the corner and lecturing them on their behavior every day? Yeah, how's that working for you, the kid, and the class? It's not? Quelle surprise...

Whether you're the teacher or not, your attitude is unrealistic and unproductive. Of course it's best if the parents teach their kids these things. But if they don't, it's not the kids' faults and the way we treat them in schools at this age (where they spend almost as much time as they spend at home) will be a huge determining factor in what path they go down in life.

Your "GET OUT!" attitude sucks and doesn't account for the fact that there are hundreds of teachers in DC who DO know how to handle these young kids with challenging behaviors. They know how to acclimate them to proper classroom culture, and only the ones who really have mental health issues need to be pulled aside and worked with separately.

In the name of a better and safer and more productive District overall, let's make sure the adults in the buildings are doing all they can to help bring these kids around before we send them off to the fate you want them to go to on Day 1.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^^ The "love button" would be you getting off your lazy butt and teaching your kid how to act appropriately and not hurt others. Otherwise, GET OUT!!!

Good grief... You must be the teacher whose only ideas about discipline are putting the kid in the corner and lecturing them on their behavior every day? Yeah, how's that working for you, the kid, and the class? It's not? Quelle surprise...

Whether you're the teacher or not, your attitude is unrealistic and unproductive. Of course it's best if the parents teach their kids these things. But if they don't, it's not the kids' faults and the way we treat them in schools at this age (where they spend almost as much time as they spend at home) will be a huge determining factor in what path they go down in life.

Your "GET OUT!" attitude sucks and doesn't account for the fact that there are hundreds of teachers in DC who DO know how to handle these young kids with challenging behaviors. They know how to acclimate them to proper classroom culture, and only the ones who really have mental health issues need to be pulled aside and worked with separately.

In the name of a better and safer and more productive District overall, let's make sure the adults in the buildings are doing all they can to help bring these kids around before we send them off to the fate you want them to go to on Day 1.

Hello, parents need to raise their kids properly and provide for a nurturing environment. The school needs to reinforce discipline. The school also needs to provide for mental health counseling, but usually fails there. No one's kids should be permitted to traumatize others. The perp needs a pull-out until s/he gets it under control. Otherwise, we're a city that caters to the LCD and the HCD leaves for the 'burbs; DC spirals to the bottom yet again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^^ The "love button" would be you getting off your lazy butt and teaching your kid how to act appropriately and not hurt others. Otherwise, GET OUT!!!

Good grief... You must be the teacher whose only ideas about discipline are putting the kid in the corner and lecturing them on their behavior every day? Yeah, how's that working for you, the kid, and the class? It's not? Quelle surprise...

Whether you're the teacher or not, your attitude is unrealistic and unproductive. Of course it's best if the parents teach their kids these things. But if they don't, it's not the kids' faults and the way we treat them in schools at this age (where they spend almost as much time as they spend at home) will be a huge determining factor in what path they go down in life.

Your "GET OUT!" attitude sucks and doesn't account for the fact that there are hundreds of teachers in DC who DO know how to handle these young kids with challenging behaviors. They know how to acclimate them to proper classroom culture, and only the ones who really have mental health issues need to be pulled aside and worked with separately.

In the name of a better and safer and more productive District overall, let's make sure the adults in the buildings are doing all they can to help bring these kids around before we send them off to the fate you want them to go to on Day 1.

Hello, parents need to raise their kids properly and provide for a nurturing environment. The school needs to reinforce discipline. The school also needs to provide for mental health counseling, but usually fails there. No one's kids should be permitted to traumatize others. The perp needs a pull-out until s/he gets it under control. Otherwise, we're a city that caters to the LCD and the HCD leaves for the 'burbs; DC spirals to the bottom yet again.

You just don't get it. OF COURSE parents need to raise their kids properly. As much discord as there can be on DCUM, no one is going to argue that. But once a parent does not raise their kids that way (or at least their standards for "properly" don't meet your standards) and a teacher and school are faced with what to do, there is a giant spectrum of responses a school can have. No, no kid should keep "traumatizing" any other students, and I know very schools that allow "traumatizing" to go on. But how the student with the problem behavior is handled can mean everything in terms of whether those behaviors go on, get worse, and everyone wants to push the student out so s/he becomes "someone else's problem", OR those behaviors are handled successfully in the school and the student learns better behaviors.

Get over your uninformed and unrealistic view that somehow all the behavior training has to occur at home and if it doesn't, "Oh well, too bad for you student A, you're out". These kids deserve a real chance at education and educators (which hopefully you're not one of, hopefully!) need to be trained to give them that shot and still be able to have a thriving classroom and deliver their instruction. There is a world of range of responses to these behaviors, especially in young kids, and educators need to make sure they're not making the problem WORSE with their responses before they go kicking the kid out. T
Your oversimplified "Parents should raise them right, and if they cause trouble, they're out" is unrealistic and irresponsible (and NOT in the best interest of either that school or DC as a District). Your attitude brings worse consequences, not better.