Bad behavior in K

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote: If this is happening routinely, it's called bullying, and needs to cease. Stop rationalizing it and go out there and protect your child. Contact the teacher again, move up the food chain as necessary, and if all else fails, retain legal counsel and/or contact law enforcement.


Haha. This forum never ceases to validate my decision to leave the teaching profession, mostly due to insane parents.



Pp here. Why is it not the right of a parent to place their child in a safe learning environment? It's bullying and it needs to stop. Why should I let my kid suffer?
Anonymous
OMG, it's the first two weeks of kindergarten. The teacher is aware and has spoken to parents and is keeping an eye out. We have gone insane and started labeling any unkind behavior as "bullying", which is a gross misuse of the word and diminishes its meaning by using it in any situation where kids are having trouble getting along or small children are having trouble with impulse control. It's unfortunate, but this kind of behavior is not unusual when kids are overwhelmed in a new, stimulating envorniment. It is very likely to sort itself out within the month.

Kids that age are not the most reliable reporters, either. So keep in touch with the teacher, but do not freak out.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote: If this is happening routinely, it's called bullying, and needs to cease. Stop rationalizing it and go out there and protect your child. Contact the teacher again, move up the food chain as necessary, and if all else fails, retain legal counsel and/or contact law enforcement.


Haha. This forum never ceases to validate my decision to leave the teaching profession, mostly due to insane parents.



Pp here. Why is it not the right of a parent to place their child in a safe learning environment? It's bullying and it needs to stop. Why should I let my kid suffer?


You're going to contact law enforcement to do what, precisely? Arrest a kindergartner?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:a lot of kindergarteners - particularly boys -- really do act out early in the year - even if they went to preschool/pre-K - adjusting to a different environment. The teachers and aides are working to establish the boundaries of acceptable behavior and their systems for behavior and consequences. I'd suggest keeping in touch with the teacher daily at this point - while I know no one wants to be 'that' parent - it sounds like it's enough that you want to keep an eye on it. and if it persists go in for a mtg or just go in to observe the class (ask to go in to read a book or whatever). I asked our k-teacher about something my kindergartener said at home that sounded unusual and I got the context for it so it made sense. DS in kindergarten at a JKLM & at this age it's hard to tell when the boys say 'i'm gonna punch you in the face' if it's like 'hey buddy, let's play' or if it's menacing. Nine of out 10 times, it's the former. But we do still try to teach our son that we don't talk that way to our friends & just say 'let's play'.


This. I wouldn't take behavior at this stage to be indicative of long-term patterns. I'd watch and see whether things settle down over the next few weeks. The OP's kid doesn't seem to be upset by any of this, so there's no urgency.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. Thanks. The problem I am having is getting accurate info from my child. It's hard to get him to tell me what kids did it.


Definitely follow up with teachers and admin, daily if needed, until resolved. If the kids are OOB they could be sent to their IB for this sort of behavior, IIUC. If IB, then it's different, but the school could do more to address this.


Oh, this response makes me so sad.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. Thanks. The problem I am having is getting accurate info from my child. It's hard to get him to tell me what kids did it.


Definitely follow up with teachers and admin, daily if needed, until resolved. If the kids are OOB they could be sent to their IB for this sort of behavior, IIUC. If IB, then it's different, but the school could do more to address this.


Oh, this response makes me so sad.


Oh, my kid crying nightly and refusing to go to school because she is getting picked on makes me so sad. The mom who just emailed me with her kid crying as well is probably sad as well.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. Thanks. The problem I am having is getting accurate info from my child. It's hard to get him to tell me what kids did it.


Definitely follow up with teachers and admin, daily if needed, until resolved. If the kids are OOB they could be sent to their IB for this sort of behavior, IIUC. If IB, then it's different, but the school could do more to address this.


Oh, this response makes me so sad.


Oh, my kid crying nightly and refusing to go to school because she is getting picked on makes me so sad. The mom who just emailed me with her kid crying as well is probably sad as well.


I'm not the person you're responding to, but I'm in classrooms for my job and I can tell you that the same response makes me sad too. Not because your children should continue to endure being the victims of bad behavior. It makes me sad because if it continues, the school's approach to engaging the students behaving badly and their parents isn't working. K is simply too young to not be able to find an way in the school to work with those students to change their behavior. And trust me, I've seen behavior that is off the charts worse than what is described in this thread. But these kids are young enough that they can be worked with 99% of the time. So jumping to "If they're OOB they can be kicked out" is people just trying to "purge the school" instead of actually using best practices to work with those kids effectively. Which, if the problems continue, is clearly not happening.

Would be different if we were talking 4th, 5th grade. But this is K. The strategies are out there to effectively get these kids in line, regardless of the source of their issues. Very few kids this age can't be worked with effectively.

So I agree, no one wants your kids to continue to suffer, but I also think it's a cop out and a sign of poor classroom management and bad behavioral supports if this escalates from bad behavior -> transferring to their IB school after 2 weeks. Or even a month, if no one is working with the students to change the dynamic.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote: If this is happening routinely, it's called bullying, and needs to cease. Stop rationalizing it and go out there and protect your child. Contact the teacher again, move up the food chain as necessary, and if all else fails, retain legal counsel and/or contact law enforcement.


Haha. This forum never ceases to validate my decision to leave the teaching profession, mostly due to insane parents.



Pp here. Why is it not the right of a parent to place their child in a safe learning environment? It's bullying and it needs to stop. Why should I let my kid suffer?


You're going to contact law enforcement to do what, precisely? Arrest a kindergartner?


If need be. But civil action is much more effective. Most teachers suck.
Anonymous
This is a strange thread.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I really don't believe this is happening in a JKLM school.


I do. Those kids are worst than the OOB students.


A lot of entitled pricks.
Anonymous
Teach him to stand up for himself. Do some role playing and empower him.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote: If this is happening routinely, it's called bullying, and needs to cease. Stop rationalizing it and go out there and protect your child. Contact the teacher again, move up the food chain as necessary, and if all else fails, retain legal counsel and/or contact law enforcement.


Haha. This forum never ceases to validate my decision to leave the teaching profession, mostly due to insane parents.



Pp here. Why is it not the right of a parent to place their child in a safe learning environment? It's bullying and it needs to stop. Why should I let my kid suffer?


You're going to contact law enforcement to do what, precisely? Arrest a kindergartner?


If need be. But civil action is much more effective. Most teachers suck.


Sue DCPS to get a TRO. Claim negligence and relief sought is to make the classroom safe/prevent bullying. It's fairly simple. You'll find that DCPS won't care, but the judge in Superior Court will. I also heard of a case in Las Vegas where a family sought a TRO against a bully in the classroom; the public school system settled out of court with the victim's family.

Anyhow, don't sit back and take it. DCPS will not care. So sue them.
Anonymous
To all you crazies saying "kick him out!!" what if the kid is IN bounds??!!! Morons.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:To all you crazies saying "kick him out!!" what if the kid is IN bounds??!!! Morons.


^^^ DCPS troll.
Anonymous
I wonder if we attend the same school OP? The child's mom has to sit him in the corner every morning to give him a lecture on his behavior for the day.

I asked my daughter about this and she replied "he always gets in trouble".

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