George Zimmerman Shot and Wounded in Road Rage Incident

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:PP here. I am not a Liberal and I do not lust for anyone's blood. It just seems to me that Conservatives have latched onto this guy as some sort of vigliante hero when, in truth, he is a hot headed fuck-up who has been in trouble most of his adult life. I can kind of see people rallying behind some of the cops, but you could do a lot better than falling on your sword for this guy.

(shrug) He is not a hero to conservatives. But the liberals are certainly making him MUCH more sympathetic by hating on him and lying about him.

Another PP here. I guess....only if you believe that everything is conservative vs. liberal. I do not think that way so it is foreign to me.

[Anonymous]

It is interesting that Zimmerman, apparently, is no longer entitled to be treated like a private citizen anymore, and his every transgression is national news. I wonder why the media chooses to report on him in this manner.

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Anonymous wrote:He needs one of those t-shirts people give to toddlers - "Here comes trouble!"

Instead he had a picture painted on him by the media -- "Kill this racist!" -- which he will have to wear for the rest of his life.

I don't feel sorry for him. Well, all of our actions and decisions have consequences. Accountability. He has made some decisions that he will have to live with. And to me, it is not about killing Trayvon Martin. Posing with the manufacturer of the gun you used to kill a teenage boy. Painting a picture of that boy and selling the pics for profit. Appearing at gun shows. Instead of showing (or even faking) remorse about the killing of another (after an altercation that he started), he tries to gain noteriety and profit from that killing. The media did not do that to him - he has made the decision and he is the one who put the target on his own back.

And thus you will justify your thirst for his death and your wallowing in schadenfreude as all his fault.

What a wonderful person you are!

Nope. Learn to read and comprehend. I did not say that I wanted him dead or anything like that. What I said is that he has to live with the consequences of his actions and decisions.

Uh huh. You are perfectly happy that he has a "target on his back" but you don't want him dead. Try again.

Seriously, I am concerned for you. I really think you have a problem with reading comprehension. The PP blames the media for GZ's "predicament" in life. I think it is because of the decisions that HE made. As I said, I never said that I wanted him dead or that I was happy about anything as it pertains to him.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:He needs one of those t-shirts people give to toddlers - "Here comes trouble!"

Instead he had a picture painted on him by the media -- "Kill this racist!" -- which he will have to wear for the rest of his life.

I don't feel sorry for him. Well, all of our actions and decisions have consequences. Accountability. He has made some decisions that he will have to live with. And to me, it is not about killing Trayvon Martin. Posing with the manufacturer of the gun you used to kill a teenage boy. Painting a picture of that boy and selling the pics for profit. Appearing at gun shows. Instead of showing (or even faking) remorse about the killing of another (after an altercation that he started), he tries to gain noteriety and profit from that killing. The media did not do that to him - he has made the decision and he is the one who put the target on his own back.

And thus you will justify your thirst for his death and your wallowing in schadenfreude as all his fault.

What a wonderful person you are!

Nope. Learn to read and comprehend. I did not say that I wanted him dead or anything like that. What I said is that he has to live with the consequences of his actions and decisions.

Uh huh. You are perfectly happy that he has a "target on his back" but you don't want him dead. Try again.

Seriously, I am concerned for you. I really think you have a problem with reading comprehension. The PP blames the media for GZ's "predicament" in life. I think it is because of the decisions that HE made. As I said, I never said that I wanted him dead or that I was happy about anything as it pertains to him.

Oh please. Your satisfaction is all too obvious. Nobody is fooled by your mealy mouthed efforts to pretend otherwise.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is interesting that Zimmerman, apparently, is no longer entitled to be treated like a private citizen anymore, and his every transgression is national news. I wonder why the media chooses to report on him in this manner.

Let me ask you a sincere question, do you think that someone who intentionally attempts to garner media and public attention for himself should have expectations for being treated as a private citizen?

Simply because he is polarizing figure that creates views and clicks for whatever news source it is. When his name is mentioned they know that folks will react. Controversy sells! Simple as that.

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Anonymous wrote:He needs one of those t-shirts people give to toddlers - "Here comes trouble!"

Instead he had a picture painted on him by the media -- "Kill this racist!" -- which he will have to wear for the rest of his life.

I don't feel sorry for him. Well, all of our actions and decisions have consequences. Accountability. He has made some decisions that he will have to live with. And to me, it is not about killing Trayvon Martin. Posing with the manufacturer of the gun you used to kill a teenage boy. Painting a picture of that boy and selling the pics for profit. Appearing at gun shows. Instead of showing (or even faking) remorse about the killing of another (after an altercation that he started), he tries to gain noteriety and profit from that killing. The media did not do that to him - he has made the decision and he is the one who put the target on his own back.

And thus you will justify your thirst for his death and your wallowing in schadenfreude as all his fault.

What a wonderful person you are!

Nope. Learn to read and comprehend. I did not say that I wanted him dead or anything like that. What I said is that he has to live with the consequences of his actions and decisions.

Uh huh. You are perfectly happy that he has a "target on his back" but you don't want him dead. Try again.

Seriously, I am concerned for you. I really think you have a problem with reading comprehension. The PP blames the media for GZ's "predicament" in life. I think it is because of the decisions that HE made. As I said, I never said that I wanted him dead or that I was happy about anything as it pertains to him.

Oh please. Your satisfaction is all too obvious. Nobody is fooled by your mealy mouthed efforts to pretend otherwise.

Right...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not sure why you think this proves a point. This was an ongoing beef between Zimmerman and another guy and, according to some articles, this incdient resulted from a prior altercation between the two. So....I am not sure what point you proved.

It does not matter why the incident occurred. The liberals want him dead. If you don't see the point of that... you must be another lying liberal.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure why you think this proves a point. This was an ongoing beef between Zimmerman and another guy and, according to some articles, this incdient resulted from a prior altercation between the two. So....I am not sure what point you proved.

It does not matter why the incident occurred. The liberals want him dead. If you don't see the point of that... you must be another lying liberal.

ok

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:guy has bad luck

No, not luck but karma.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It is interesting that Zimmerman, apparently, is no longer entitled to be treated like a private citizen anymore, and his every transgression is national news. I wonder why the media chooses to report on him in this manner.

Let me ask you a sincere question, do you think that someone who intentionally attempts to garner media and public attention for himself should have expectations for being treated as a private citizen?

Simply because he is polarizing figure that creates views and clicks for whatever news source it is. When his name is mentioned they know that folks will react. Controversy sells! Simple as that.

I disagree with your premise. Zimmerman did not choose to "garner media and public attention for himself," but rather was thrust into the public spotlight because what was and should have been a garden-variety self-defense case, barely worthy of the local news blotter, was made round-the-clock national news for months, and Zimmerman subject to the full Two-Minutes-Hate treatment, day-in and day-out, for all that time. If Zimmerman's own efforts to rehabilitate his reputation and profit, in some small measure, from his experience, *after* all this occurred, justifies ongoing media scrutiny of his every foible, to be cast nationwide whenever it can be used to further damage his reputation...? Well, all I can say is that I disagree with that, and a responsible media would have accepted that they got the story wrong and at least have the decency to let the guy alone going forward.

I say that with no great admiration for Zimmerman, who seems like a rather pedestrian fellow who gets into the types of scrapes that are commonplace for literally tens of thousands of his fellow men, all across this great nation of ours. Yet, he is the one who is on CNN for life, it seems. It reeks of payback.

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure why you think this proves a point. This was an ongoing beef between Zimmerman and another guy and, according to some articles, this incdient resulted from a prior altercation between the two. So....I am not sure what point you proved.

It does not matter why the incident occurred. The liberals want him dead. If you don't see the point of that... you must be another lying liberal.

I am not a liberal and I don't want him dead but the man has no business being free.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't feel sorry for him. Well, all of our actions and decisions have consequences.

So, you said that about Trayvon too, right? And Michael Brown, and all the other homicidal thugs?

They are dead. Zimmerman killed and is free.

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Anonymous wrote:It is interesting that Zimmerman, apparently, is no longer entitled to be treated like a private citizen anymore, and his every transgression is national news. I wonder why the media chooses to report on him in this manner.

Let me ask you a sincere question, do you think that someone who intentionally attempts to garner media and public attention for himself should have expectations for being treated as a private citizen?

Simply because he is polarizing figure that creates views and clicks for whatever news source it is. When his name is mentioned they know that folks will react. Controversy sells! Simple as that.

I disagree with your premise. Zimmerman did not choose to "garner media and public attention for himself," but rather was thrust into the public spotlight because what was and should have been a garden-variety self-defense case, barely worthy of the local news blotter, was made round-the-clock national news for months, and Zimmerman subject to the full Two-Minutes-Hate treatment, day-in and day-out, for all that time. If Zimmerman's own efforts to rehabilitate his reputation and profit, in some small measure, from his experience, *after* all this occurred, justifies ongoing media scrutiny of his every foible, to be cast nationwide whenever it can be used to further damage his reputation...? Well, all I can say is that I disagree with that, and a responsible media would have accepted that they got the story wrong and at least have the decency to let the guy alone going forward.

I say that with no great admiration for Zimmerman, who seems like a rather pedestrian fellow who gets into the types of scrapes that are commonplace for literally tens of thousands of his fellow men, all across this great nation of ours. Yet, he is the one who is on CNN for life, it seems. It reeks of payback.

I think we diasgree on a little more than the basic premise and that is ok. It was far more than a self defense case because of the Florida law and the age of the victim. Despite the acquittal, there are still a number of questions about whether the media got the story wrong or got it right. The way the case was charged/prosecuted and some of the statements made by the jurors contributes to that. That being said, GZ is a polarizing figure and networks know that stories involving him will create interest. I do not always think that the media has axes to grind and vendattas - sometimes it is about the money. Like or not, Zimmerman creates clicks and views. And I would not diminish his subsequent issues. In fact, I think they underscore the reputation he had going into the trial as being a hothead. The fact that he continues to get into these scrapes AFTER he killed someone is shocking to many. He avoided major trouble and that fact that he cannot keep his nose clean is baffling. And that fact that some of the suff he has done to rehab his reputation is seen by many as gloating and profiting from killing someone. Shows a lack of judgment - and that was also part of his reputation. So he reinforcing all of the negative traits that were attributed to him before the trial. Of course it will create interest. I would like nothing more than to never hear his name again - but it seems that he is going to make that impossible.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is interesting that Zimmerman, apparently, is no longer entitled to be treated like a private citizen anymore, and his every transgression is national news. I wonder why the media chooses to report on him in this manner.

Let me ask you a sincere question, do you think that someone who intentionally attempts to garner media and public attention for himself should have expectations for being treated as a private citizen?

Simply because he is polarizing figure that creates views and clicks for whatever news source it is. When his name is mentioned they know that folks will react. Controversy sells! Simple as that.

I disagree with your premise. Zimmerman did not choose to "garner media and public attention for himself," but rather was thrust into the public spotlight because what was and should have been a garden-variety self-defense case, barely worthy of the local news blotter, was made round-the-clock national news for months, and Zimmerman subject to the full Two-Minutes-Hate treatment, day-in and day-out, for all that time. If Zimmerman's own efforts to rehabilitate his reputation and profit, in some small measure, from his experience, *after* all this occurred, justifies ongoing media scrutiny of his every foible, to be cast nationwide whenever it can be used to further damage his reputation...? Well, all I can say is that I disagree with that, and a responsible media would have accepted that they got the story wrong and at least have the decency to let the guy alone going forward.

I say that with no great admiration for Zimmerman, who seems like a rather pedestrian fellow who gets into the types of scrapes that are commonplace for literally tens of thousands of his fellow men, all across this great nation of ours. Yet, he is the one who is on CNN for life, it seems. It reeks of payback.

I think we diasgree on a little more than the basic premise and that is ok. It was far more than a self defense case because of the Florida law and the age of the victim. Despite the acquittal, there are still a number of questions about whether the media got the story wrong or got it right. The way the case was charged/prosecuted and some of the statements made by the jurors contributes to that. That being said, GZ is a polarizing figure and networks know that stories involving him will create interest. I do not always think that the media has axes to grind and vendattas - sometimes it is about the money. Like or not, Zimmerman creates clicks and views. And I would not diminish his subsequent issues. In fact, I think they underscore the reputation he had going into the trial as being a hothead. The fact that he continues to get into these scrapes AFTER he killed someone is shocking to many. He avoided major trouble and that fact that he cannot keep his nose clean is baffling. And that fact that some of the suff he has done to rehab his reputation is seen by many as gloating and profiting from killing someone. Shows a lack of judgment - and that was also part of his reputation. So he reinforcing all of the negative traits that were attributed to him before the trial. Of course it will create interest. I would like nothing more than to never hear his name again - but it seems that he is going to make that impossible.

Not really. The Florida law people made so much of was, in truth, irrelevant to the case. Zimmerman was acquitted based on an utterly commonplace self-defense jury instruction typical for many, if not most, states. "Age" was only a factor in the popular mind due to the media's intentional choice to highlight out-of-date photographs of Martin. It is not reasonably in dispute that Martin was old and strong enough to be a credible threat.

More generally, your argument proves far too much. If anyone the media chooses to highlight and portray badly becomes an object of legitimate public interest because they create clicks and views, and any response that person makes can be used to justify still further coverage, how do they get off that track? They can't. It is a gross abuse of power that right-thinking people should condemn.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't feel sorry for him. Well, all of our actions and decisions have consequences.

So, you said that about Trayvon too, right? And Michael Brown, and all the other homicidal thugs?

Well, I thought we were talking about GZ, and if you can comprehend my post, I specifcally talked about decisions he made AFTER the incident. Neither Mike Brown or Trayvon ended up killing anyone so...calling them homicidal does not make much sense. See....GZ is still alive to make bad decisions and he is not in jail. So he should be thankful for that. But if he wants to gloat and profit from causing someone's death (and you are not a war hero), he should get whatever comes his way.

You don't have to kill anyone to be homicidal. They had homicidal intent.

It does not matter that you're talking about what GZ did after the "incident". If your view is that actions have consequences, well, that should apply to Trayvon and Brown. Their actions had consequences for them. And thus you should not feel sorry for them.

Is that the same as "Lusting in your heart" a la Jimmy Carter?