George Zimmerman Shot and Wounded in Road Rage Incident

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Anonymous wrote:It's amazing that conservatives are still defending this guy. I mean, really? If there were ever a false martyr, it's this guy. He's a fucking lunatic.

Conservatives like myself (as you put it) are not defending Zimmerman as a person. The forensics are the forensics, and while Zimmerman chose to follow Martin (something I don't condone), it was Martin who jumped Zimmerman and started beating his head into a curb. At that point, Zimmerman used his weapon. That is when it became self-defense, and not murder.

Those are simply the facts of the case.

My feeling is if Zimmerman is the person 'liberals' say he is, then he will land HIMSELF back in jail. OJ certainly did.

Notice how hard he's been trying to land himself in jail? He's just been lucky that the women in his life haven't wanted to press charges.

I don't know what happened between Martin and Zimmerman and in the end who was the most aggressive at the point at which Zimmerman shot Martin. But we have plenty of evidence that Zimmerman doesn't know how to keep from escalating a fight to the point where it becomes violent. I haven't read the details about his relationship with the guy who shot him (or *at* him as the case may be) but it would not surprise me at all if Zimmerman hadn't escalated the conflict to the point where a nutter thinks it's okay to shoot at him.

Grown ups know how to defuse a potentially violent situation. George Zimmerman is not a grown up and has failed to learn from his mistakes. I have no sympathy for him.

Unfortunately it WAS ok for Zimmerman to shoot Martin under the circumstances. self defense. Nothing you said changes that

Uh, did you actually read what I wrote? I didn't say whether it was okay for Zimmerman to shoot Martin. I said that Zimmerman does not know how to prevent a situation from becoming volatile -- something that the vast majority of adults know how to do. And in fact we know from other accounts of Zimmerman that he in fact escalates conflicts towards violence in ways that a mature person could easily avoid. I don't know what happened with Martin but Zimmerman has a clear track record in other incidents of making a bad situation much much worse. Maybe it was all Martin's fault in this particular incidence, I don't know (and for the record, you don't know either) -- but forgive me if I continue to be skeptical that Zimmerman is completely an innocent victim here. He has a lot of growing up to do and he is running out of time.

Martin was responsible for his own behavior. Zimmerman didn't make him start bashing his head into a curb. Again, nothing changes that. There are plenty of assholes in this world and we are only responsible for our own behavior. "He made me do it" isn't really a good legal defense.

Zimmerman wasn't innocent in that he had no real business following Martin. Martin's own actions, however contributed to him being shot.

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Anonymous wrote:Why was the stalker the one to call 911 then?

Dunno. The stalker appears to have a weird habit of not only calling 911 on himself every time he encounters Zimmerman while stalking, he also goes into the nearest business to use their phone to call 911 on himself.

It is almost as if the stalker is mentally disturbed.

Puhlease. We have all seen one of these. If you are lucky, it's not in your own neighborhood. Antagonists alway get caught, in the end. I have seen it. It seems Zimmerman is the one always getting himself into trouble. Maybe he does not charade the antics that some more seasoned mentally disturbed people have, but Zimmerman has serious problems. I would say it is well known at this point. Zimmerman is not "putting on the crazy" - he is crazy. Just because someone is the one to call the police, does not mean they are not the aggressor. Police know this well.

Do you know how to read?

http://news.yahoo.com/bystander-recounts-man-said-allegedly-shooting-george-zimmerman-154125973--abc-news-topstories.html

It seems awfully coincidental that Apperson would have two 'chance' encounters with Zimmerman. Whether Apperson or Zimmerman is the antagonist remains to be seen.

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Anonymous wrote:Why was the stalker the one to call 911 then?

Dunno. The stalker appears to have a weird habit of not only calling 911 on himself every time he encounters Zimmerman while stalking, he also goes into the nearest business to use their phone to call 911 on himself.

It is almost as if the stalker is mentally disturbed.

Puhlease. We have all seen one of these. If you are lucky, it's not in your own neighborhood. Antagonists alway get caught, in the end. I have seen it. It seems Zimmerman is the one always getting himself into trouble. Maybe he does not charade the antics that some more seasoned mentally disturbed people have, but Zimmerman has serious problems. I would say it is well known at this point. Zimmerman is not "putting on the crazy" - he is crazy. Just because someone is the one to call the police, does not mean they are not the aggressor. Police know this well.

Do you know how to read?

http://news.yahoo.com/bystander-recounts-man-said-allegedly-shooting-george-zimmerman-154125973--abc-news-topstories.html

I do. Is English your first language? You might want to reread, Einstein.

I read this, and it seems that Apperson saw Zimmerman with a gun and therefore Apperson needed to shoot Zimmerman in self-defense before Zimmerman shot him.

In the same manner that Zimmerman needed to shoot Martin before Martin bashed his head in.

This is going to get interesting.

PP here. This is what I read. Do you think any lawyer will go near Zimmerman, at this point?

Zimmerman did not fire his gun Apperson did. Martin did bash Zimmerman's head into the curb repeatedly. Zimmerman fired his weapon.

The fact Zimmerman didn't fire his gun is pretty damning for Apperson. Apperson has some 'splainin' to do.

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I would bet anything that Zimmerman brandished his weapon. Of course, he is not going to admit that; because he has a tarnished image that spans greatly beyond his neighborhood, where it started.

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Anonymous wrote:Why was the stalker the one to call 911 then?

Dunno. The stalker appears to have a weird habit of not only calling 911 on himself every time he encounters Zimmerman while stalking, he also goes into the nearest business to use their phone to call 911 on himself.

It is almost as if the stalker is mentally disturbed.

Puhlease. We have all seen one of these. If you are lucky, it's not in your own neighborhood. Antagonists alway get caught, in the end. I have seen it. It seems Zimmerman is the one always getting himself into trouble. Maybe he does not charade the antics that some more seasoned mentally disturbed people have, but Zimmerman has serious problems. I would say it is well known at this point. Zimmerman is not "putting on the crazy" - he is crazy. Just because someone is the one to call the police, does not mean they are not the aggressor. Police know this well.

Do you know how to read?

http://news.yahoo.com/bystander-recounts-man-said-allegedly-shooting-george-zimmerman-154125973--abc-news-topstories.html

I do. Is English your first language? You might want to reread, Einstein.

I read this, and it seems that Apperson saw Zimmerman with a gun and therefore Apperson needed to shoot Zimmerman in self-defense before Zimmerman shot him.

In the same manner that Zimmerman needed to shoot Martin before Martin bashed his head in.

This is going to get interesting.

PP here. This is what I read. Do you think any lawyer will go near Zimmerman, at this point?

Zimmerman did not fire his gun Apperson did. Martin did bash Zimmerman's head into the curb repeatedly. Zimmerman fired his weapon.

The fact Zimmerman didn't fire his gun is pretty damning for Apperson. Apperson has some 'splainin' to do.

Apperson says Zimmerman brandished his gun at him; Zimmerman says he didn't. After his recent domestic violence problems, who are you going to believe?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why was the stalker the one to call 911 then?

Dunno. The stalker appears to have a weird habit of not only calling 911 on himself every time he encounters Zimmerman while stalking, he also goes into the nearest business to use their phone to call 911 on himself.

It is almost as if the stalker is mentally disturbed.

Puhlease. We have all seen one of these. If you are lucky, it's not in your own neighborhood. Antagonists alway get caught, in the end. I have seen it. It seems Zimmerman is the one always getting himself into trouble. Maybe he does not charade the antics that some more seasoned mentally disturbed people have, but Zimmerman has serious problems. I would say it is well known at this point. Zimmerman is not "putting on the crazy" - he is crazy. Just because someone is the one to call the police, does not mean they are not the aggressor. Police know this well.

Do you know how to read?

http://news.yahoo.com/bystander-recounts-man-said-allegedly-shooting-george-zimmerman-154125973--abc-news-topstories.html

I do. Is English your first language? You might want to reread, Einstein.

I read this, and it seems that Apperson saw Zimmerman with a gun and therefore Apperson needed to shoot Zimmerman in self-defense before Zimmerman shot him.

In the same manner that Zimmerman needed to shoot Martin before Martin bashed his head in.

This is going to get interesting.

PP here. This is what I read. Do you think any lawyer will go near Zimmerman, at this point?

Zimmerman did not fire his gun Apperson did. Martin did bash Zimmerman's head into the curb repeatedly. Zimmerman fired his weapon.

The fact Zimmerman didn't fire his gun is pretty damning for Apperson. Apperson has some 'splainin' to do.

Apperson says Zimmerman brandished his gun at him; Zimmerman says he didn't. After his recent domestic violence problems, who are you going to believe?

Time to lawyer up, both of them. The real question is: whom do you think can afford the better lawyer? That will be the interesting part. Time to place your bets, ladies and gentlemen.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why was the stalker the one to call 911 then?

Dunno. The stalker appears to have a weird habit of not only calling 911 on himself every time he encounters Zimmerman while stalking, he also goes into the nearest business to use their phone to call 911 on himself.

It is almost as if the stalker is mentally disturbed.

Puhlease. We have all seen one of these. If you are lucky, it's not in your own neighborhood. Antagonists alway get caught, in the end. I have seen it. It seems Zimmerman is the one always getting himself into trouble. Maybe he does not charade the antics that some more seasoned mentally disturbed people have, but Zimmerman has serious problems. I would say it is well known at this point. Zimmerman is not "putting on the crazy" - he is crazy. Just because someone is the one to call the police, does not mean they are not the aggressor. Police know this well.

Do you know how to read?

http://news.yahoo.com/bystander-recounts-man-said-allegedly-shooting-george-zimmerman-154125973--abc-news-topstories.html

I do. Is English your first language? You might want to reread, Einstein.

I read this, and it seems that Apperson saw Zimmerman with a gun and therefore Apperson needed to shoot Zimmerman in self-defense before Zimmerman shot him.

In the same manner that Zimmerman needed to shoot Martin before Martin bashed his head in.

This is going to get interesting.

PP here. This is what I read. Do you think any lawyer will go near Zimmerman, at this point?

Zimmerman did not fire his gun Apperson did. Martin did bash Zimmerman's head into the curb repeatedly. Zimmerman fired his weapon.

The fact Zimmerman didn't fire his gun is pretty damning for Apperson. Apperson has some 'splainin' to do.

Apperson says Zimmerman brandished his gun at him; Zimmerman says he didn't. After his recent domestic violence problems, who are you going to believe?

Apperson could easily have video-recorded the alleged brandishing with his cell-phone. -except he left his cell phone at home AGAIN.

This required Apperson to run up to the nearest by-stander and ask:

"COULD I BORROW YOUR CELL PHONE TO CALL 911 ON GEORGE ZIMMERMAN WHO I COINCIDENFALLY JUST HAD AN ALTERCATION WITH FOR THE SECOND TIME (by coincidence) AND I HATE HIM?

Apperson is stalking Zimmerman. He leaves his cell phone at home because he does not want his location tracked by local police who use Stingray surveillance technology. That would prove he is stalking Zimmerman.

stingray is used in Florida as well as locally. Google it. It ain't the NSA - it's your local cops tracking you.

[Anonymous]

Does Zimmerman have a restraining order against this guy? If not, he has every right to be driving down the street near Zimmerman.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why was the stalker the one to call 911 then?

Dunno. The stalker appears to have a weird habit of not only calling 911 on himself every time he encounters Zimmerman while stalking, he also goes into the nearest business to use their phone to call 911 on himself.

It is almost as if the stalker is mentally disturbed.

Puhlease. We have all seen one of these. If you are lucky, it's not in your own neighborhood. Antagonists alway get caught, in the end. I have seen it. It seems Zimmerman is the one always getting himself into trouble. Maybe he does not charade the antics that some more seasoned mentally disturbed people have, but Zimmerman has serious problems. I would say it is well known at this point. Zimmerman is not "putting on the crazy" - he is crazy. Just because someone is the one to call the police, does not mean they are not the aggressor. Police know this well.

Do you know how to read?

http://news.yahoo.com/bystander-recounts-man-said-allegedly-shooting-george-zimmerman-154125973--abc-news-topstories.html

I do. Is English your first language? You might want to reread, Einstein.

I read this, and it seems that Apperson saw Zimmerman with a gun and therefore Apperson needed to shoot Zimmerman in self-defense before Zimmerman shot him.

In the same manner that Zimmerman needed to shoot Martin before Martin bashed his head in.

This is going to get interesting.

PP here. This is what I read. Do you think any lawyer will go near Zimmerman, at this point?

Zimmerman did not fire his gun Apperson did. Martin did bash Zimmerman's head into the curb repeatedly. Zimmerman fired his weapon.

The fact Zimmerman didn't fire his gun is pretty damning for Apperson. Apperson has some 'splainin' to do.

Apperson says Zimmerman brandished his gun at him; Zimmerman says he didn't. After his recent domestic violence problems, who are you going to believe?

Apperson could easily have video-recorded the alleged brandishing with his cell-phone. -except he left his cell phone at home AGAIN.

This required Apperson to run up to the nearest by-stander and ask:

"COULD I BORROW YOUR CELL PHONE TO CALL 911 ON GEORGE ZIMMERMAN WHO I COINCIDENFALLY JUST HAD AN ALTERCATION WITH FOR THE SECOND TIME (by coincidence) AND I HATE HIM?

Apperson is stalking Zimmerman. He leaves his cell phone at home because he does not want his location tracked by local police who use Stingray surveillance technology. That would prove he is stalking Zimmerman.

stingray is used in Florida as well as locally. Google it. It ain't the NSA - it's your local cops tracking you.

Meh. I would let the lawyers take care of it. Should be interesting.

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Do you think Zimmerman can afford a lawyer? He is awfully combative and troublemaking for someone in his situation. He'd be much better off staying off the radar, no?

[Anonymous]

someone needs to just knock him off and get rid of him, and I'm a non-violent person.

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Anonymous wrote: And TBH, if Zimmerman were Black or identified as Hispanic, many of you would consider him the ne'er do well thug that he is.

Nobody cares less about black thugs killing other black thugs than the black community.

Followed only by the news media, which does not regard black-on-black or black-on-white violence as "newsworthy" because they do not Support The Narrative.

You would be wrong. And I'm sick and damn tired of this "black on black crime" shit. WTF is it race-related when blacks are the perps/victims? Or do you also call it white on white crime?

[Anonymous]

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Do you think Zimmerman can afford a lawyer? He is awfully combative and troublemaking for someone in his situation. He'd be much better off staying off the radar, no?

The trouble is that he can't help himself or stay off the radar. You are giving him far too much credit for self control and wisdom.

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Do you think Zimmerman can afford a lawyer? He is awfully combative and troublemaking for someone in his situation. He'd be much better off staying off the radar, no?

His antics are probably a slap in the face to Martin's parents. It gives credibility to the idea that Zimmerman was the hothead that night.

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I don't understand the logical jump that if you don't always have your cell phone with you, you are trying to avoid not being tracked. I often walk without my cell phone. Sometimes I just plain forget and walk out with it still in the charger. Everybody is not tied to their phone and don't want to be on 24/7 call.