TJ or Edison, which do you think would get your high achieiving kid into a better college?

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Anonymous wrote:And PP when they get those As, I bet they are in any college or university they choose.

Actually that's not true. I know a TJ grad who had all A's except for one B, as well as a nearly perfect SAT score, and she didn't get into any Ivies. She went to UVA.

Maybe she wanted to go to UVA.

She got into Duke, Rice, Carnegie Mellon and UVA. Did not get into Harvard (one parent had a Harvard grad degree), Brown, Columbia, Princeton, Penn or UC Berkeley. Participated in 2 varsity sports, plus other extracurriculars. I know all of this because I'm good friends with her mom.

Maybe she didn't take advanced post AP math or post AP science courses that most top students at TJ take.

I have had 2 kids at TJ so I'm familiar with the curriculum. Her only B was in an AP/post AP science class that gives many students their first B. I know she took Calc BC in 10th grade and then the math classes that follow in 11th and 12th. And to address the SAT score, I know her math and CR scores were each 800, writing was a little less. Also had 800s on all her SAT IIs and 5's on her APs. She is very happy at UVA - is getting great job/internship offers and her parents are happy to pay for grad school as she saved them so much money by choosing a state school over a private.

What were the ECs aside from 2 sports? Any officer positions or community service? it's just odd since about 20 ~ 25% of the TJ graduates make it to Ivys.

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Anonymous wrote:And PP when they get those As, I bet they are in any college or university they choose.

Actually that's not true. I know a TJ grad who had all A's except for one B, as well as a nearly perfect SAT score, and she didn't get into any Ivies. She went to UVA.

Maybe she wanted to go to UVA.

She got into Duke, Rice, Carnegie Mellon and UVA. Did not get into Harvard (one parent had a Harvard grad degree), Brown, Columbia, Princeton, Penn or UC Berkeley. Participated in 2 varsity sports, plus other extracurriculars. I know all of this because I'm good friends with her mom.

Maybe she didn't take advanced post AP math or post AP science courses that most top students at TJ take.

I have had 2 kids at TJ so I'm familiar with the curriculum. Her only B was in an AP/post AP science class that gives many students their first B. I know she took Calc BC in 10th grade and then the math classes that follow in 11th and 12th. And to address the SAT score, I know her math and CR scores were each 800, writing was a little less. Also had 800s on all her SAT IIs and 5's on her APs. She is very happy at UVA - is getting great job/internship offers and her parents are happy to pay for grad school as she saved them so much money by choosing a state school over a private.

Well, do you think she would've gotten into those other schools if she had gone to Edison?

Not the PP, but I'm astounded that that kid didn't get into any school she applied to. Amazing.

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The Ivies are competitive. Her stats may have been pretty standard for what they see. Plenty of super-qualified kids get turned away every year when you have an acceptance rate below 7 or 8 percent. Why is this such a difficult concept for everyone to grasp? There are only so many seats to go around in Ivy freshman classes.

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Anonymous wrote:And PP when they get those As, I bet they are in any college or university they choose.

Actually that's not true. I know a TJ grad who had all A's except for one B, as well as a nearly perfect SAT score, and she didn't get into any Ivies. She went to UVA.

Maybe she wanted to go to UVA.

She got into Duke, Rice, Carnegie Mellon and UVA. Did not get into Harvard (one parent had a Harvard grad degree), Brown, Columbia, Princeton, Penn or UC Berkeley. Participated in 2 varsity sports, plus other extracurriculars. I know all of this because I'm good friends with her mom.

Maybe she didn't take advanced post AP math or post AP science courses that most top students at TJ take.

I have had 2 kids at TJ so I'm familiar with the curriculum. Her only B was in an AP/post AP science class that gives many students their first B. I know she took Calc BC in 10th grade and then the math classes that follow in 11th and 12th. And to address the SAT score, I know her math and CR scores were each 800, writing was a little less. Also had 800s on all her SAT IIs and 5's on her APs. She is very happy at UVA - is getting great job/internship offers and her parents are happy to pay for grad school as she saved them so much money by choosing a state school over a private.

Well, do you think she would've gotten into those other schools if she had gone to Edison?

Not the PP, but I'm astounded that that kid didn't get into any school she applied to. Amazing.

About how many AP/Post-APs in total did she take in 4 years including Calculus BC and post calculus math courses? The story doesn't make any sense. What was her weighted GPA?

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Anonymous wrote:And PP when they get those As, I bet they are in any college or university they choose.

Actually that's not true. I know a TJ grad who had all A's except for one B, as well as a nearly perfect SAT score, and she didn't get into any Ivies. She went to UVA.

Maybe she wanted to go to UVA.

She got into Duke, Rice, Carnegie Mellon and UVA. Did not get into Harvard (one parent had a Harvard grad degree), Brown, Columbia, Princeton, Penn or UC Berkeley. Participated in 2 varsity sports, plus other extracurriculars. I know all of this because I'm good friends with her mom.

Maybe she didn't take advanced post AP math or post AP science courses that most top students at TJ take.

I have had 2 kids at TJ so I'm familiar with the curriculum. Her only B was in an AP/post AP science class that gives many students their first B. I know she took Calc BC in 10th grade and then the math classes that follow in 11th and 12th. And to address the SAT score, I know her math and CR scores were each 800, writing was a little less. Also had 800s on all her SAT IIs and 5's on her APs. She is very happy at UVA - is getting great job/internship offers and her parents are happy to pay for grad school as she saved them so much money by choosing a state school over a private.

You address the math part but not the science part. I am not sure that just being advanced in math only will be deemed sufficiently rigorous if she didn't take many APs or post APs in science. Maybe her weighted GPA was high but not very high if she didn't take many post AP science courses.

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Who cares - a sample of one is just that. Plus if all the info is second hand from parents, the accuracy is suspect. And talking in such detail about a friend's kid is well, in attractive, to say the least. This poor kid is now identifiable thanks to an anonymous adult who wants to pretend to be a know-it-all about TJ.

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I meant unattractive above.

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Anonymous wrote:Who cares - a sample of one is just that. Plus if all the info is second hand from parents, the accuracy is suspect. And talking in such detail about a friend's kid is well, in attractive, to say the least. This poor kid is now identifiable thanks to an anonymous adult who wants to pretend to be a know-it-all about TJ.

How is she identifiable if she is 1 of about 100 TJ kids that go to UVA every year and many of them played sports with high SAT and high GPA?

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Anonymous wrote:And PP when they get those As, I bet they are in any college or university they choose.

Actually that's not true. I know a TJ grad who had all A's except for one B, as well as a nearly perfect SAT score, and she didn't get into any Ivies. She went to UVA.

Maybe she wanted to go to UVA.

She got into Duke, Rice, Carnegie Mellon and UVA. Did not get into Harvard (one parent had a Harvard grad degree), Brown, Columbia, Princeton, Penn or UC Berkeley. Participated in 2 varsity sports, plus other extracurriculars. I know all of this because I'm good friends with her mom.

Maybe she didn't take advanced post AP math or post AP science courses that most top students at TJ take.

I have had 2 kids at TJ so I'm familiar with the curriculum. Her only B was in an AP/post AP science class that gives many students their first B. I know she took Calc BC in 10th grade and then the math classes that follow in 11th and 12th. And to address the SAT score, I know her math and CR scores were each 800, writing was a little less. Also had 800s on all her SAT IIs and 5's on her APs. She is very happy at UVA - is getting great job/internship offers and her parents are happy to pay for grad school as she saved them so much money by choosing a state school over a private.

Well, do you think she would've gotten into those other schools if she had gone to Edison?

What does it matter where she got in? She's going to UVA where plenty of kids from other FCPS high schools are going without having had to go to TJ.

Exactly. There is no "magic bullet" here.

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I bet a kid with those stats coming from Edison would have gotten into those ivys. Then she would've at least had the choice of them or uva, which is the point of this thread, right?

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Do.es this mean an IB student at Edison winds up in relatively small classes with a strong cohort?

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She's identifiable by all the other schools she did or didn't get into. Not everyone would apply to that group. Plus we have her almost exact SAT scores, etc. If I saw a "friend" had posted that many details about my DD, I would not be happy.

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Anonymous wrote:She's identifiable by all the other schools she did or didn't get into. Not everyone would apply to that group. Plus we have her almost exact SAT scores, etc. If I saw a "friend" had posted that many details about my DD, I would not be happy.

How would you know which friend it was? It could be anyone who knows the daughter.

Every school has a kid who was a top student who didn't get into ivy schools. At my high school, the smartest guy in the school got rejected across the board and went to UMich. Depending on where you are geographically, you may not apply to other top schools (Northwestern, Johns Hopkins, Georgetown) and go to your more local top public school (UVA/UMich).

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Anonymous wrote:She's identifiable by all the other schools she did or didn't get into. Not everyone would apply to that group. Plus we have her almost exact SAT scores, etc. If I saw a "friend" had posted that many details about my DD, I would not be happy.

How would you know which friend it was? It could be anyone who knows the daughter.

Every school has a kid who was a top student who didn't get into ivy schools. At my high school, the smartest guy in the school got rejected across the board and went to UMich. Depending on where you are geographically, you may not apply to other top schools (Northwestern, Johns Hopkins, Georgetown) and go to your more local top public school (UVA/UMich).

What I meant was people from the Midwest may go to UMich or Notre Dame. I know people from TX who think Rice is amazing and may wonder why a student would turn down Rice. I'm from the Northeast and never even knew that UVA was a good school. I know it is deemed great here in the DC area.

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Anonymous wrote:She's identifiable by all the other schools she did or didn't get into. Not everyone would apply to that group. Plus we have her almost exact SAT scores, etc. If I saw a "friend" had posted that many details about my DD, I would not be happy.

How does any one know what schools other kids were accepted to and what schools the kids were not accepted to? Especially if it was years ago and not now? That is a stretch. Also, we do not have the "almost exact" SAT score. We only know it's about 2300. There are plenty of TJ kids who receive 800/800 on the CR and math sections and receive 2300+ for the total score. That is not unusual at all at TJ. You are exaggerating that the kid is identifiable.