Jews and Germans

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Anonymous wrote:What is the point of this post? The answer depends on who you are asking. I am sure a concentration camp survivor's answer would be a hell of a lot different than others. This is a rude and insensitive post.

Yes it is. I'm German and extremely offended. And I do have many Jewish friends. Thank goodness they aren't as narrow minded as some disgustingly prejudiced people on this thread.

So you think. Many Jews who lived in Germany in the 40s had friends too. Where were there when my family was being burned?

I can have my grandmother tell you all about her German "friends"

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is the point of this post? The answer depends on who you are asking. I am sure a concentration camp survivor's answer would be a hell of a lot different than others. This is a rude and insensitive post.

Yes it is. I'm German and extremely offended. And I do have many Jewish friends. Thank goodness they aren't as narrow minded as some disgustingly prejudiced people on this thread.

So you think. Many Jews who lived in Germany in the 40s had friends too. Where were there when my family was being burned?

I can have my grandmother tell you all about her German "friends"

Her German "friends" are almost all dead. Most of the German population wasn't even born yet when your (and my) family was being burned.

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I'm AA. and I grew up in a city where people still had the numbers. What exactly do you want to know?
I think a comedian said it best years ago. Nothing good comes from a unified Germany.

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I'm Jewish. The only discussion I've had about boycotting anything German was that if I inherited money from my grandfather, I wouldn't use it for a German car or travel to Germany, out of respect for him. Other than that, I would probably travel there one day, and judge individual Germans as individuals.

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I'm AA. and I grew up in a city where people still had the numbers. What exactly do you want to know?
I think a comedian said it best years ago. Nothing good comes from a unified Germany.

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Oops 850 and 51 - sorry for double post

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Anonymous wrote: A German is from Germany. Germany is in Europe. Europe is a continent.

Jews live on all the continents. Europe is one of those continents. Germany is in Europe.

Many Jews drive German cars. I don't know if many Germans drive Jewish cars.

There are Germans in Israel. Israel is NOT Germany. Israel is not in Europe, but many Europeans live there.

Some Israelis live in Europe.

I am a white Jew American. Therefore I am European. Which means I was From the continent of Africa at one point.

Lol. I like you. Coffee?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So strange to judge a current population for the sins of their past. I understand that the Holocaust was horrific. But, there are many people now that had no role in that. Germany is also far from the only country who has committed atrocities (we don't have to look much further than the U.S. where we all reside? Do you have the same views about the U.S.?)

One of my very best friends is Jewish. We've talked about this and she won't go to Germany, won't buy German cars, etc. I just think this is odd. One thing to harbor such feelings toward an actual nazi/nazi sympathizer. This is something I just don't get.

But they are still very racist and xenophobic. I don't blame your friend. I swore I would never by a Benz or BMW as a child. And I'm an AA... Of course then I moved to Arlington.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So strange to judge a current population for the sins of their past. I understand that the Holocaust was horrific. But, there are many people now that had no role in that. Germany is also far from the only country who has committed atrocities (we don't have to look much further than the U.S. where we all reside? Do you have the same views about the U.S.?)

One of my very best friends is Jewish. We've talked about this and she won't go to Germany, won't buy German cars, etc. I just think this is odd. One thing to harbor such feelings toward an actual nazi/nazi sympathizer. This is something I just don't get.

maybe we should judge the current population so that before anyone else decides to have a killing orgy they realize that it will take hundreds of years to clean the slate.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Depends, I find Berlin (and the people of) to be assholes. The rest of Germany can be ok. Munchen is nice.

I find German tourists to be the worst in the world. When I encounter elderly German people, I'm usually as rude as I can possibly be to them, because fuck them.

In South Asia the Israeli tourists have a pretty crappy reputation. Loud, obnoxious shoestring travelers if you're looking for generalizations.

Have heard that, I think they learned the obnoxious thing in Europe, Germany to be exact.

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Anonymous wrote:Why was Germany so eager to conquer others? Don't they have an abundance of natural resources? Thought it was usually countries and people that lacked those resources so they went out to take it from others.

They believed that they had a problem with farm land to population. They (Hitler) also believed that Germany missed out on having colonies like the Brits, Spaniards, French, Dutch and so on.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote: A German is from Germany. Germany is in Europe. Europe is a continent.

Jews live on all the continents. Europe is one of those continents. Germany is in Europe.

Many Jews drive German cars. I don't know if many Germans drive Jewish cars.

There are Germans in Israel. Israel is NOT Germany. Israel is not in Europe, but many Europeans live there.

Some Israelis live in Europe.

I am a white Jew American. Therefore I am European. Which means I was From the continent of Africa at one point.

Lol. I like you. Coffee?

Sure thing!

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Anonymous wrote:What the Jews have done to everyone in the Middle East is unforgivable. They have destabilized an entire region in one big land grab

Jews didn't grab the land. While they did so later in Israel's history, initially, the UN gave the land to them.

The Nazis exterminated millions of Jews during WW II, but then when the war was over, many Jews who tried to go home were ordered to go away and/or murdered by members of their communities. As many of you know, this wasn't a new development. Jews have been discriminated against, and worse, for centuries. The UN's decision was motivated by a pragmatic understanding that Jews would continue to experience ill treatment because, despite vows and assertions to the contrary, the global community did not really learn the kind of meaningful lessons necessary to stop this abuse. The UN's decision to give Jews their own country represented an avoidant solution. As long as Jews had their own country, the global community didn't have to confront the root causes for the centuries-old discrimination. Sadly, the ongoing conflict between Israelis and Palestinians, and anti-Semitism's recent rise in Europe, suggests that avoidant solutions aren't always good solutions.

The UN had no business GIVING anything away that was not theirs. There is the fundamental problem. And help me to understand why the UN allowed the ethnic cleansing, removal of Palestinians? That is so backward.
Nazism was one racist mess, Zionism is also one racist mess.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: A German is from Germany. Germany is in Europe. Europe is a continent.

Jews live on all the continents. Europe is one of those continents. Germany is in Europe.

Many Jews drive German cars. I don't know if many Germans drive Jewish cars.

There are Germans in Israel. Israel is NOT Germany. Israel is not in Europe, but many Europeans live there.

Some Israelis live in Europe.

I am a white Jew American. Therefore I am European. Which means I was From the continent of Africa at one point.

Jews are not really white...they are sort of white. Your ancestry is closer to Africa than you think:

Reporting in the April issue of PLoS Genetics, the researchers found that modern day Jews can attribute about 3% to 5% of their ancestry to sub-Saharan Africans, and that the exchange of genes between Jews and sub-Saharan Africans occurred approximately 72 generations, or about 2,000 years, ago.

Read more: http://forward.com/articles/140721/genes-tell-tale-of-jewish-ties-to-africa/#ixzz2mqoCiple

Thank you for that! I am fascinated with genetics and have even submitted my DNA to the National Genographic project. My brother had his DNA submitted to a different company, but found out that our jewish linage most likely originated in Greece...even though we are ashkenazi jews. I read about the Genographic project years ago. There was a story in there that talked about a tribe in Africa (not sure which country) who's folktales spoke of them being one of the lost tribes of Israel. Of course nobody believed them. So the guy who started the project went out and tested their DNA. Sure enough, they traced their DNA to the Kohanim. They apparently are descendants of the ancient rabbis in Israel.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So strange to judge a current population for the sins of their past. I understand that the Holocaust was horrific. But, there are many people now that had no role in that. Germany is also far from the only country who has committed atrocities (we don't have to look much further than the U.S. where we all reside? Do you have the same views about the U.S.?)

One of my very best friends is Jewish. We've talked about this and she won't go to Germany, won't buy German cars, etc. I just think this is odd. One thing to harbor such feelings toward an actual nazi/nazi sympathizer. This is something I just don't get.

maybe we should judge the current population so that before anyone else decides to have a killing orgy they realize that it will take hundreds of years to clean the slate.

We should always be watching to guard against a future "killing orgy." Of course, that does not happen (Congo, Sudan, Rawanda, to name just a few). Germans should not be singled out for that.