Tell me about UNC - Chapel Hill, from an out of state perspective

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Anonymous wrote:41 percent in state admission rate.



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https://admissions.unc.edu/apply/class-profile-2/
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If UNC wanted to really join the big leagues, it would have to let in more oos students.
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Anonymous wrote:If UNC wanted to really join the big leagues, it would have to let in more oos students.


Well, as a state university, its primary role is to educate residents of the state. I think it’s great that 40% of the incoming class of NC residents come from rural counties. And perhaps for these students, UNC is not a safety school, but a dream come true. Indeed, UNC is a solid choice for NC residents. I’m not sure it needs to be anything more than that.
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Anonymous wrote:If UNC wanted to really join the big leagues, it would have to let in more oos students.


No. Letting in more OOS, like UVA does, is a budgeting strategy. In the end, it’s in the in state residents that suffer when a public university does this. It’s been well discussed on this forum and in the press how certain schools play with the OOS ratio to increase their funds and balance their budgets. Other schools, like UNC, are unapologetic about sticking to their ratio and not using it to budget.
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Anonymous wrote:41 percent in state admission rate.



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https://admissions.unc.edu/apply/class-profile-2/


To be fair Georgia Tech is the same way, very high instate rate. Low OOS rate.
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Anonymous wrote:If UNC wanted to really join the big leagues, it would have to let in more oos students.


What constitutes the big leagues? UVA?! If that's the case it's already there.
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I think you have to be into the big school, rah rah (basketball) culture. Mind you, U of Michigan is the same, when it comes to football. Both of them have some excellent grad schools (such as public health). When I got accepted to UNC's grad school, I was turned off by the fact that they could not tell me how much of a scholarship I would get until the state legislature voted on their budget that year. Not sure IF/HOW that control translates on the undergrad level. I went to U of Michigan for a Masters degree, and did not encounter this issue. I like Ann Arbor a lot. It is less spread out than Chapel Hill I think and very manageable/accomodating for students. Ann Arbor (vs Detroit or the state) does NOT reflect economic hardship.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:41 percent in state admission rate.



Cite?


https://admissions.unc.edu/apply/class-profile-2/


To be fair Georgia Tech is the same way, very high instate rate. Low OOS rate.


GT Data: https://admission.gatech.edu/first-year
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I wish UVA had a higher in state percentage like UNC. UNC historically has done this as a policy of a state school first and foremost for NC residents. It’s taxpayer funded and therefore needs to be for taxpayer children. Many states have same views with regards to their public universities. The GA of MC has not budged on this ratio for decades. There is pressure on UVA to lower its OOS ratio, not include legacy kids as OOS, to raise its instate, but they won’t. This really hurts Virginia kids. I don’t need kids from Texas or California at UVA to make me feel like it’s a more prestigious school.
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Anonymous wrote:I wish UVA had a higher in state percentage like UNC. UNC historically has done this as a policy of a state school first and foremost for NC residents. It’s taxpayer funded and therefore needs to be for taxpayer children. Many states have same views with regards to their public universities. The GA of MC has not budged on this ratio for decades. There is pressure on UVA to lower its OOS ratio, not include legacy kids as OOS, to raise its instate, but they won’t. This really hurts Virginia kids. I don’t need kids from Texas or California at UVA to make me feel like it’s a more prestigious school.


UNC In-State Admit Rate - 41%
UVA In-State Admit Rate - 40.3%
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Anonymous wrote:I'm a UNC grad from out of state. It is definitely a school with name recognition throughout the US, more so than UVA. I know that it is because of basketball, but people still consider it a great school. I feel like it is like Michigan in that you will see lots of Carolina hats/sweatshirts/etc and it doesn't necessarily mean that people are alum.

I had a great experience at UNC and went on to get a PhD from an ivy with complete funding; a student from Berkeley and I were the only ones in our cohort not from an Ivy or SLAC.

It is definitely not a safety for in-state students. People should realize when they make statements like that they lose all credibility. Stats are readily available.


I am the out-of-state student who transferred out. It definitely is a safety school for many in-state residents. It was very difficult to get in as an out of stater, and it just didn’t have the reputation for being so difficult in state. Not even close. Not sure how you can claim otherwise. It is a beautiful campus, though.


NP. Perhaps it is a safety for the top students in state, definitely not for the majority.


I can’t say I polled a majority of the students there, but I never got the feeling that in-staters felt like they were attending an elite institution. It was just their state school.



Well UVA is the state flagship of Virginia and students there certainly feel like it's an elite institution. But for any state flagship, you are going to have quite a few kids who got in to higher ranked schooos but chose not to attend due to cost.




I agree that state schools can be a great option for in-staters. As an out-of-stater at UNC, though, I just didn’t feel like it was worth paying the OOS tuition for a school that many in-staters attended by default.



This is exactly what my current MD jr says about UVA.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm a UNC grad from out of state. It is definitely a school with name recognition throughout the US, more so than UVA. I know that it is because of basketball, but people still consider it a great school. I feel like it is like Michigan in that you will see lots of Carolina hats/sweatshirts/etc and it doesn't necessarily mean that people are alum.

I had a great experience at UNC and went on to get a PhD from an ivy with complete funding; a student from Berkeley and I were the only ones in our cohort not from an Ivy or SLAC.

It is definitely not a safety for in-state students. People should realize when they make statements like that they lose all credibility. Stats are readily available.


I am the out-of-state student who transferred out. It definitely is a safety school for many in-state residents. It was very difficult to get in as an out of stater, and it just didn’t have the reputation for being so difficult in state. Not even close. Not sure how you can claim otherwise. It is a beautiful campus, though.


NP. Perhaps it is a safety for the top students in state, definitely not for the majority.


I can’t say I polled a majority of the students there, but I never got the feeling that in-staters felt like they were attending an elite institution. It was just their state school.



Well UVA is the state flagship of Virginia and students there certainly feel like it's an elite institution. But for any state flagship, you are going to have quite a few kids who got in to higher ranked schooos but chose not to attend due to cost.




I agree that state schools can be a great option for in-staters. As an out-of-stater at UNC, though, I just didn’t feel like it was worth paying the OOS tuition for a school that many in-staters attended by default.



This is exactly what my current MD jr says about UVA.


Fair enough. I know I’m staying in VA so that, in the very least, my DS will be able to attend UVA when the time comes. In fact, as a Va resident, I can only think of a few schools that would be worth the price of tuition over in-state Va tuition. I’m sure NC residents feel the same way about UNC. Not sure MD residents have the same feeling about UMD, but I defer to you on that one.
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Anonymous wrote:If UNC wanted to really join the big leagues, it would have to let in more oos students.


No. Letting in more OOS, like UVA does, is a budgeting strategy. In the end, it’s in the in state residents that suffer when a public university does this. It’s been well discussed on this forum and in the press how certain schools play with the OOS ratio to increase their funds and balance their budgets. Other schools, like UNC, are unapologetic about sticking to their ratio and not using it to budget.


UNC gets a lot more money per student from the state than UVA and other Virginia schools.
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UNC-Chapel Hill has long had a good reputation. Even in my day it was known as a good public university. Always attracted students from Baltimore, where I grew up.

I'd be happy to have a child there and I went to an Ivy. Even better if we were in-state!
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Anonymous wrote:If UNC wanted to really join the big leagues, it would have to let in more oos students.


No. Letting in more OOS, like UVA does, is a budgeting strategy. In the end, it’s in the in state residents that suffer when a public university does this. It’s been well discussed on this forum and in the press how certain schools play with the OOS ratio to increase their funds and balance their budgets. Other schools, like UNC, are unapologetic about sticking to their ratio and not using it to budget.


UNC gets a lot more money per student from the state than UVA and other Virginia schools.


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