Lerner takes the FIFTH

[Anonymous]

Doesn't her husband (re)write tax code? More info on that please....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The IRS already apologized for targeting conservative groups after getting caught by the inspector general. Liberals live in a world of make believe. This issue is massive . Everybody fears a letter from the IRS . Unless the information is open and easily accessed, this issue will dominate the next year and more.

Both Republicans and Democrats agree that the tea party should not have been targeted. But the Republicans falsely claim that the motive was partisan politics.

This is a typical conservative pattern.
Liberal: We want to make sure all gun sales have a background check
Conservative: You are trying to take our guns


We are on to your BS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:List of people who took the 5th amendment and were totally innocent .

1. Nobody.

How would you know. This is such an idiotic statement. I bet you don't know anything about criminal or constitutional law. Tell me, which amendments to the constitution do you like and which ones do you think should be disregarded.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:She's getting called back up since she made a statement of innocence first... She waived her right and is now subject to jail if she invokes the 5th.

You can invoke your right to remain silent at any time during questioning.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How about the individuals who were repeatedly audited and harrassed? That cool too?

what people? I haven't heard anything along those lines come up (the only complaint about auditing I heard was PETA said they were targeted under the Bush Administration but who knows if there's anything to that).

Then you aren't listening. Not only have I heard media folk complain about being personally audited, but there have been many businesses and individuals who have now come forward to tell their story.

Oh please, so anyone who was audited is now claiming they were "targeted" for their political views? First I'll ask for some cites to these media folk you have "heard" complain, and second I'll call BS until there's some evidence this isn't just whining by people whose taxes sent up red flags in the system.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How about the individuals who were repeatedly audited and harrassed? That cool too?

what people? I haven't heard anything along those lines come up (the only complaint about auditing I heard was PETA said they were targeted under the Bush Administration but who knows if there's anything to that).

Then you aren't listening. Not only have I heard media folk complain about being personally audited, but there have been many businesses and individuals who have now come forward to tell their story.

Oh please, so anyone who was audited is now claiming they were "targeted" for their political views? First I'll ask for some cites to these media folk you have "heard" complain, and second I'll call BS until there's some evidence this isn't just whining by people whose taxes sent up red flags in the system.

And, I'd like to see their tax returns to boot before I'll make a final decision about whether or not the audit was improper.

You've not been "targeted" if you get audited for inflating your deductions or omit some source of income.

[Anonymous]

The IRS never said it "targeted" anyone. It said it received a large quantity of flawed applications from groups sharing a same name and grouped them accordingly.

Nice. Just make stuff up and keep repeating it over and over again, while JSteele and other sit back nodding their heads. The lame Soros sent Jews to concentration camps meme has more traction than this.

The IRS did target conservative groups and the IRS never said that they received a large quantity of flawed applications. Here is the IRS in Lerner's own words. I'll leave it to Obama to use the other adjectives such as angry, inappropriate and targeted.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2013/05/10/irs-apology-conservative-groups-2012-election/2149939/

WASHINGTON — The Internal Revenue Service apologized Friday for subjecting Tea Party groups to additional scrutiny during the 2012 election, but denied any political motive.

Lois Lerner, who heads the IRS unit that oversees tax-exempt groups, said organizations that included the words "tea party" or "patriot" in their applications for tax-exempt status were singled out for additional reviews. Her remarks, which came at an American Bar Association gathering, were first reported by the Associated Press.

White House spokesman Jay Carney on Friday afternoon called the IRS action "inappropriate" and said the Obama administration supports a full investigation, suggesting the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration would have jurisdiction.

Lerner said the practice, initiated by low-level workers in Cincinnati, was wrong.

"It was an error in judgment, and it was not appropriate, but that's what they did," Lerner told reporters. She declined to talk about how many employees were involved and whether there would disciplinary action. "I think they were insensitive, or less sensitive than they should have been."

The error, she said, was in assuming that any group with "tea party" or "patriot" in its name necessarily needed more scrutiny for political activity just because of its name. About 300 groups that had applied for tax-exempt status were put into a "bucket" of cases needing further scrutiny, and of those, about a quarter had tea party affiliations.

That problem was compounded when examiners asked more intrusive questions in what's known as a "development" process. "Some of the development letters that were send were far too broad and include things like asking for the organization's donor list, which is not generally what we do," Lerner said.

Since the problem was discovered sometime last year, the IRS has approved about 130 of the original 300 applications, and about 25 have been withdrawn. The rest remain pending, and no application has been denied.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How about the individuals who were repeatedly audited and harrassed? That cool too?

what people? I haven't heard anything along those lines come up (the only complaint about auditing I heard was PETA said they were targeted under the Bush Administration but who knows if there's anything to that).

Then you aren't listening. Not only have I heard media folk complain about being personally audited, but there have been many businesses and individuals who have now come forward to tell their story.

Oh please, so anyone who was audited is now claiming they were "targeted" for their political views? First I'll ask for some cites to these media folk you have "heard" complain, and second I'll call BS until there's some evidence this isn't just whining by people whose taxes sent up red flags in the system.

Hello? Are you paying any attention to the actual facts? The IRS has already indicated they used conservative key words to give extra scrutiny to groups applying for tax exemption. You (or the IRS can claim that isn't "targeting for their political views" all you want. But you know what...it actually is.

There was an anti-conservative bias. Pay attention. It is a disgusting misuse of authority.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She's getting called back up since she made a statement of innocence first... She waived her right and is now subject to jail if she invokes the 5th.

You can invoke your right to remain silent at any time during questioning.

And go to jail.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How about the individuals who were repeatedly audited and harrassed? That cool too?

what people? I haven't heard anything along those lines come up (the only complaint about auditing I heard was PETA said they were targeted under the Bush Administration but who knows if there's anything to that).

Then you aren't listening. Not only have I heard media folk complain about being personally audited, but there have been many businesses and individuals who have now come forward to tell their story.

Oh please, so anyone who was audited is now claiming they were "targeted" for their political views? First I'll ask for some cites to these media folk you have "heard" complain, and second I'll call BS until there's some evidence this isn't just whining by people whose taxes sent up red flags in the system.

Hello? Are you paying any attention to the actual facts? The IRS has already indicated they used conservative key words to give extra scrutiny to groups applying for tax exemption. You (or the IRS can claim that isn't "targeting for their political views" all you want. But you know what...it actually is.

There was an anti-conservative bias. Pay attention. It is a disgusting misuse of authority.

We don't know what the other 2/3 of the targeted groups are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The IRS already apologized for targeting conservative groups after getting caught by the inspector general. Liberals live in a world of make believe. This issue is massive . Everybody fears a letter from the IRS . Unless the information is open and easily accessed, this issue will dominate the next year and more.

Both Republicans and Democrats agree that the tea party should not have been targeted. But the Republicans falsely claim that the motive was partisan politics.

This is a typical conservative pattern.
Liberal: We want to make sure all gun sales have a background check
Conservative: You are trying to take our guns


We are on to your BS.

Can we agree that tea party groups are political? and not liberal? and that they were targeted? Why do you think that happened?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How about the individuals who were repeatedly audited and harrassed? That cool too?

what people? I haven't heard anything along those lines come up (the only complaint about auditing I heard was PETA said they were targeted under the Bush Administration but who knows if there's anything to that).

Then you aren't listening. Not only have I heard media folk complain about being personally audited, but there have been many businesses and individuals who have now come forward to tell their story.

Oh please, so anyone who was audited is now claiming they were "targeted" for their political views? First I'll ask for some cites to these media folk you have "heard" complain, and second I'll call BS until there's some evidence this isn't just whining by people whose taxes sent up red flags in the system.

Hello? Are you paying any attention to the actual facts? The IRS has already indicated they used conservative key words to give extra scrutiny to groups applying for tax exemption. You (or the IRS can claim that isn't "targeting for their political views" all you want. But you know what...it actually is.

There was an anti-conservative bias. Pay attention. It is a disgusting misuse of authority.

As it happens, I am paying attention to the "actual facts"-- are you? I am not defending what the IRS did (although I actually think if you are a political organization applying for a tax exemption that cannot be given for political activity then you should expect some close scrutiny).

I am just saying there is a world of difference between giving extra scrutiny to certain groups applying for a tax exemption and actually auditing people's taxes based on political beliefs, and I have not seen any evidence at all that the IRS was auditing people based on their political beliefs.

Maybe you should "pay attention"?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The IRS already apologized for targeting conservative groups after getting caught by the inspector general. Liberals live in a world of make believe. This issue is massive . Everybody fears a letter from the IRS . Unless the information is open and easily accessed, this issue will dominate the next year and more.

Both Republicans and Democrats agree that the tea party should not have been targeted. But the Republicans falsely claim that the motive was partisan politics.

This is a typical conservative pattern.
Liberal: We want to make sure all gun sales have a background check
Conservative: You are trying to take our guns


We are on to your BS.

Can we agree that tea party groups are political? and not liberal? and that they were targeted? Why do you think that happened?

Because they act like a political party, and political parties don't get tax exempt status.

[Anonymous]

Watching you guys dance around in these threads trying to defend the administration is quite funny. The convoluted logical twists and turns are just comedic.

[Anonymous]

Is her administrative leave with, or without full pay?