If you are a gay woman....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How is this thread offensive? Gay women are offensive. They are way too aggresive and make me uncomfortable. They don't care if you are straight, its like a challenge. They are worse than cat calling men. The butch ones is who I am talking about.

Excellent. We love making you uncomfortable. Oh wait, we don't even notice you because you're a loser.

Signed,
The Butch Ones

[Anonymous]

This is funny. I am a straight woman who is starting to dress more "butch." Why? Comfort and convenience, and the realization at 34 years old that my value as a human doesn't derive from making strangers want to fuck me. If that means I've been infected by lesbian culture, hooray!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I had no idea there were so many people so bizarrely clueless about lesbian culture. I'm speechless.

If you had the option of wearing clothes that were more durable and less expensive than typical clothes made for women, and you didn't particularly care about meeting gender expectations, why *would* you wear "women's" clothes?

Because I look better dressed and made up as a stereotypical female? For myself, not to meet "gender expectations"?

[Anonymous]

That's great PP... Now let them do what they'd like as well

Gay people are all around- it is easier to notice effeminate men and butch women. This has more to do with our discomfort around gender roles than sexuality. Trust me when I say for every one you "clock" there are four others who you didn't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How is this thread offensive? Gay women are offensive. They are way too aggresive and make me uncomfortable. They don't care if you are straight, its like a challenge. They are worse than cat calling men. The butch ones is who I am talking about.

Excellent. We love making you uncomfortable. Oh wait, we don't even notice you because you're a loser.

Signed,
The Butch Ones

There is actually a documentary about aggressive butch lesbians. Its called The Aggressives or something like thay. But its probably not about you and your subset. Still why dismiss another persons experience?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I had no idea there were so many people so bizarrely clueless about lesbian culture. I'm speechless.

If you had the option of wearing clothes that were more durable and less expensive than typical clothes made for women, and you didn't particularly care about meeting gender expectations, why *would* you wear "women's" clothes?

Really? They don't call it "in the closet" for nothing. How the hell would we know? But your explanation make sense to me.

[Anonymous]

Okay, I'll bite - what physically attracts a femme to a butch? Why a masculine woman instead of a guy?

[Anonymous]

Oh we have forgotten to mention that men's clothes have actual pockets that are large enough to put something in, goddammit!

[Anonymous]

I feel as if I'm cross-dressing when I wear skirts and such. I look at straight women as almost a different species. It is very liberating not to have to meet a feminine ideal. I dress to reflect my authentic self, not to make a political statement, but of course everything we do expresses our values.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Okay, I'll bite - what physically attracts a femme to a butch? Why a masculine woman instead of a guy?

When they get undressed, they still have all the delicious attributes of a woman's body.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Okay, I'll bite - what physically attracts a femme to a butch? Why a masculine woman instead of a guy?

Because I'm gay. Why a guy instead of a masculine woman?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How is this thread offensive? Gay women are offensive. They are way too aggresive and make me uncomfortable. They don't care if you are straight, its like a challenge. They are worse than cat calling men. The butch ones is who I am talking about.

Excellent. We love making you uncomfortable. Oh wait, we don't even notice you because you're a loser.

Signed,
The Butch Ones

There is actually a documentary about aggressive butch lesbians. Its called The Aggressives or something like thay. But its probably not about you and your subset. Still why dismiss another persons experience?

Are you kidding? "Dismiss another person's experience???" Re-read her post. According to her "gay women are offensive." imagine if she were made uncomfortable by a handful of experiences where Black men came on to her.. Would you be okay with her writing "Black men are offensive."??? Anytime someone takes a swipe at a class of people based on experiences with just a few, why is not okay to challenge that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Okay, I'll bite - what physically attracts a femme to a butch? Why a masculine woman instead of a guy?

Because she suffers the discrimination and bashing out in the world that I escape as a femme, and she still holds her head high. Because she's incredibly strong and lets me behind that wall she has to put up in order to deal the the bullshit of homophobia.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Okay, I'll bite - what physically attracts a femme to a butch? Why a masculine woman instead of a guy?

I don't understand this either. I mean, if you decide at some point that you're more attracted to women than men how do you end up with a woman who looks more like a man than a woman? I'm not trying to be offensive, it's just really hard for me to understand.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Okay, I'll bite - what physically attracts a femme to a butch? Why a masculine woman instead of a guy?

I don't understand this either. I mean, if you decide at some point that you're more attracted to women than men how do you end up with a woman who looks more like a man than a woman? I'm not trying to be offensive, it's just really hard for me to understand.

And there's your problem right there. I didn't "decide" I was attracted to my butch partner anymore than you decided who you are attracted to. It just is. You're other problem is that your construct of what a man or woman should look like is restricting. Wearing pants as a masculine is a social construct. My partner is just as much of a woman as I am. She happens to like wearing pants and particular clothes and her hair in a certain way. Just like I like to wear particular clothes, make up and my hair in a certain way.