Ann Romney's earrings look like gold $ dollar signs

[Anonymous]

im a dem (i hate having to start everything with that but this is the life on these forums)

anyway, i think the speech was fine. nothing to write home about, and it did have its corny and cringe worthy moments.

i dont think i gained anything new about mitt romney but i soak this crap up everyday so her speech wasnt to me.

she isnt a politican so we need to stop with comparing her to people who speak in public for a living. also, comparisons to michelle obama are a bit absurd as well. i just think you leave the wives alone unless they really put their neck out there on an issue or position. since all ann was doing was talking about mitt, im not going to over analyze her speech and fine petty things to say because i dont think her husband will make a great president. shes fine.

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Anonymous wrote:Does nobody care about the Mormon angle? They believe some pretty far out stuff. I don't know how to reconcile that with the capability Romney wants us to see. No offense buT a lot of it is really wild...

Never mind that. Both VP candidates belong to a sect who eat flesh and drink blood. Of their savior, no less.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is she acting like she's some down a$$ soccer mom from Glen Burnie?

Rich people acting like poor people. Poor people acting like rich people.

Could it be that she might be "rich" but she enjoys the simple things in life? EGADS!! What a shocker. You people and your labels. My eyes are going to roll out of their sockets.

Seriously. Mitt Romney is teased amongst his sons for being "frugal". They're not glitzy people. He's a self-made man and he worked hard for it - took a huge risk - why the hate? Isn't what he did what American is all about? Agree or disagree with the politics - I'm still undecided.... but why does the fact that he's been successful in life seem to be a point of contention??? Aren't those type of stories what we want to hear MORE of and should be encouraging?

Did you say Mitt is a self made man??? Are you on crack? If your father is the President and CEO of GM, you are not self made. You've had many many advantages that most of us don't have!

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Anonymous wrote:Does nobody care about the Mormon angle? They believe some pretty far out stuff. I don't know how to reconcile that with the capability Romney wants us to see. No offense buT a lot of it is really wild...

Never mind that. Both VP candidates belong to a sect who eat flesh and drink blood. Of their savior, no less.

Can we just leave this stuff alone please? No place for it in what should be a civilized discussion. All that matters are the policy positions these candidates espouse and whether you think they are the best ideas for moving our country forward. Period.

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Anonymous wrote:I felt bad for her, she could have paid for some public speaking classes or a coach.

It was painful listening to her.

It's hard to listen to kind people speak when you are not used to it.

I listen to kind people all the time and am kind myself! I'm not saying she wasn't kind, I'm saying her speech was awful. --- It's my opinion, I'm entitled to that aren't I?

She isn't a politician. The fact that she didn't spend millions on learning to speak like Obama should tell you that she is a real person. She was speaking from the heart. I wonder why people expect so much out of the wife of the candidate. Who cares if she isn't polished. She was pretty brave to get up and speak in front of so many people. Truth is you would hate her speech even if she sounded like Oprah. Because you don't agree with her husbands politics.

Really, Obama spent millions on classes in public speaking? Wow, call Fox News!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ann Romney talked about her dad being an immigrant who came her for a better life. All I could think was, WTF? I guess he was more special then those wanting to come now for a "better life." Oh, my bad - he was Welsh.

Her dad was a child and came over with his grandfather, a miner with black lung AND another mining injury. Quite a catch I can see how he got in. And by that I mean he was WELSH. if he was Mexican he would have been stopped at the border, bounced. Then he would enter illegally to become a drain on our health care system while the son would father Ann. The republicans would then be calling Ann an anchor baby.

Pp is correct. Ann Romney's father immigrated to the United States in 1929, five years after the passage of the Immigration Act of 1924 that seriously limited immigration from non-white countries. Basically, her family benefited from racist legislation. Here is the wikipedia summary:

The Immigration Act of 1924, or Johnson–Reed Act, including the National Origins Act, and Asian Exclusion Act (Pub.L. 68-139, 43 Stat. 153, enacted May 26, 1924), was a United States federal law that limited the annual number of immigrants who could be admitted from any country to 2% of the number of people from that country who were already living in the United States in 1890, down from the 3% cap set by the Immigration Restriction Act of 1921, according to the Census of 1890. It superseded the 1921 Emergency Quota Act. The law was aimed at further restricting the Southern and Eastern Europeans, mainly Jews fleeing persecution in Poland and Russia, who were immigrating in large numbers starting in the 1890s, as well as prohibiting the immigration of Middle Easterners, East Asians and Indians. According to the U.S. Department of State Office of the Historian, "In all its parts, the most basic purpose of the 1924 Immigration Act was to preserve the ideal of American homogeneity."[1] Congressional opposition was minimal.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1924

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ann Romney talked about her dad being an immigrant who came her for a better life. All I could think was, WTF? I guess he was more special then those wanting to come now for a "better life." Oh, my bad - he was Welsh.

Well her father most likely chose a "legal" route into the USA.

you're making assumptions because he is white.

It's not an assumption. See the Immigration Act of 1924.

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Anonymous wrote:She isn't a politician. The fact that she didn't spend millions on learning to speak like Obama should tell you that she is a real person. She was speaking from the heart. I wonder why people expect so much out of the wife of the candidate. Who cares if she isn't polished. She was pretty brave to get up and speak in front of so many people. Truth is you would hate her speech even if she sounded like Oprah. Because you don't agree with her husbands politics.

Really, Obama spent millions on classes in public speaking? Wow, call Fox News!

I didn't read PP's comment that way. Obama is really a great orator, in terms of tone and ability. Ann is not, and it appears that she did not take lessons in order to become a great orator like Obama. Not that Obama himself took lessons.

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting - as an independent, I really thought she spoke well and so did my democratic husband. The woman isn't a politician, cut her some slack. I really like and respect her - thought she did a fantastic job tonight.

Well, I thought her performance was fine, but the content was so lame and pandering. My Democratic husband was offended by all of her insisting that moms work harder than dads to take care of the family, which in our house (and that of many of our friends) is just BS. Perhaps that's her view b/c she was a SAHM, but she can't really speak on behalf of all the moms and dads who work two jobs while balancing their kids, their home and their marriage. No matter how hard she tries, she just sounds like she has no idea what she's talking about. Because she doesn't.

Yes, I found that offensive, too. So, she's saying she works harder than Mitt? Interesting.

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Anonymous wrote:Ann Romney talked about her dad being an immigrant who came her for a better life. All I could think was, WTF? I guess he was more special then those wanting to come now for a "better life." Oh, my bad - he was Welsh.

Her dad was a child and came over with his grandfather, a miner with black lung AND another mining injury. Quite a catch I can see how he got in. And by that I mean he was WELSH. if he was Mexican he would have been stopped at the border, bounced. Then he would enter illegally to become a drain on our health care system while the son would father Ann. The republicans would then be calling Ann an anchor baby.

Pp is correct. Ann Romney's father immigrated to the United States in 1929, five years after the passage of the Immigration Act of 1924 that seriously limited immigration from non-white countries. Basically, her family benefited from racist legislation. Here is the wikipedia summary:

The Immigration Act of 1924, or Johnson–Reed Act, including the National Origins Act, and Asian Exclusion Act (Pub.L. 68-139, 43 Stat. 153, enacted May 26, 1924), was a United States federal law that limited the annual number of immigrants who could be admitted from any country to 2% of the number of people from that country who were already living in the United States in 1890, down from the 3% cap set by the Immigration Restriction Act of 1921, according to the Census of 1890. It superseded the 1921 Emergency Quota Act. The law was aimed at further restricting the Southern and Eastern Europeans, mainly Jews fleeing persecution in Poland and Russia, who were immigrating in large numbers starting in the 1890s, as well as prohibiting the immigration of Middle Easterners, East Asians and Indians. According to the U.S. Department of State Office of the Historian, "In all its parts, the most basic purpose of the 1924 Immigration Act was to preserve the ideal of American homogeneity."[1] Congressional opposition was minimal.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1924

Oh please. So blacks brought here via slavery benefited from laws allowing slavery since they wouldn't have been allowed to emigrate legally of their own volition? I know, bad anaology, but point being that are you going to blame the poor whites who wanted to emigrate for not choosing to stay in Europe out of solidarity for those who wanted to emigrate from other parts of the world and couldn't? You're really reaching here for a reason to not like someone.

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She isn't a politician. The fact that she didn't spend millions on learning to speak like Obama should tell you that she is a real person. She was speaking from the heart. I wonder why people expect so much out of the wife of the candidate. Who cares if she isn't polished. She was pretty brave to get up and speak in front of so many people. Truth is you would hate her speech even if she sounded like Oprah. Because you don't agree with her husbands politics.

Really, Obama spent millions on classes in public speaking? Wow, call Fox News!

I didn't read PP's comment that way. Obama is really a great orator, in terms of tone and ability. Ann is not, and it appears that she did not take lessons in order to become a great orator like Obama. Not that Obama himself took lessons.

OK, I see what you're saying. I thought it was an odd construction. Millions for speech lessons? Bit of an exaggeration, that. That pp needs to watch the hyperbole.

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Anonymous wrote:Ann Romney talked about her dad being an immigrant who came her for a better life. All I could think was, WTF? I guess he was more special then those wanting to come now for a "better life." Oh, my bad - he was Welsh.

Her dad was a child and came over with his grandfather, a miner with black lung AND another mining injury. Quite a catch I can see how he got in. And by that I mean he was WELSH. if he was Mexican he would have been stopped at the border, bounced. Then he would enter illegally to become a drain on our health care system while the son would father Ann. The republicans would then be calling Ann an anchor baby.

Pp is correct. Ann Romney's father immigrated to the United States in 1929, five years after the passage of the Immigration Act of 1924 that seriously limited immigration from non-white countries. Basically, her family benefited from racist legislation. Here is the wikipedia summary:

The Immigration Act of 1924, or Johnson–Reed Act, including the National Origins Act, and Asian Exclusion Act (Pub.L. 68-139, 43 Stat. 153, enacted May 26, 1924), was a United States federal law that limited the annual number of immigrants who could be admitted from any country to 2% of the number of people from that country who were already living in the United States in 1890, down from the 3% cap set by the Immigration Restriction Act of 1921, according to the Census of 1890. It superseded the 1921 Emergency Quota Act. The law was aimed at further restricting the Southern and Eastern Europeans, mainly Jews fleeing persecution in Poland and Russia, who were immigrating in large numbers starting in the 1890s, as well as prohibiting the immigration of Middle Easterners, East Asians and Indians. According to the U.S. Department of State Office of the Historian, "In all its parts, the most basic purpose of the 1924 Immigration Act was to preserve the ideal of American homogeneity."[1] Congressional opposition was minimal.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1924

Oh please. So blacks brought here via slavery benefited from laws allowing slavery since they wouldn't have been allowed to emigrate legally of their own volition? I know, bad anaology, but point being that are you going to blame the poor whites who wanted to emigrate for not choosing to stay in Europe out of solidarity for those who wanted to emigrate from other parts of the world and couldn't? You're really reaching here for a reason to not like someone.

I'm not blaming the Romney family. My family benefited as well. I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of those Republicans who tout the "legal" immigration of their ancestors when their ancestors had built-in advantages. And, no I haven't heard Romney say that but I've heard plenty of other folks say that. If you descended from Western European stock who immigrated at that time, your family got special treatment, and you shouldn't use your family origins as an argument in the current immigration debate.

And, again, the pps were correct. A Welshman could get into the United States at that time much more easily than an Asian or an Eastern European or an Italian. However, it appears, according to wikipedia, that there were no restrictions on Latin American countries so the pp may have been wrong about a Mexican having difficulty entering at that time.

[Anonymous]

looking forward to having her as first lady classy and really nice.

[Anonymous]

Wonder if her dress was bought at Walmart. She gushed recently about how great it is to shop there. She's just a normal person elbowing other people to grab those bargains, right?

And I'm sure she didn't have maid service when she raised those boys of hers. Probably hardly had a chance to go out on the town with Mitt...babysitters are expensive. She spent her weeks vacuuming, dusting, cleaning toilets, buying groceries, making dinner, scrubbing out pans.

But, seriously now: As for the Mormonism, I'm betting that's being saved as The October Surprise. Hoping Joseph Smith the quack goes through the media gauntlet then. Mitt's campaign song should be "I Believe" from the broadway musical "The Book of Mormon"!

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I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of those Republicans who tout the "legal" immigration of their ancestors when their ancestors had built-in advantages. And, no I haven't heard Romney say that but I've heard plenty of other folks say that. If you descended from Western European stock who immigrated at that time, your family got special treatment, and you shouldn't use your family origins as an argument in the current immigration debate.

And, again, the pps were correct. A Welshman could get into the United States at that time much more easily than an Asian or an Eastern European or an Italian. However, it appears, according to wikipedia, that there were no restrictions on Latin American countries so the pp may have been wrong about a Mexican having difficulty entering at that time.

It's not hypocrisy. Advantages may have existed, but legal and illegal are still constructs. There are still in place quotas on how many immigrants can come from a given country in a given year. Is it hypocrisy to come legally from one of these countries instead of illegally from Mexico?

In fact, with regards to Republications, I'd say it's not hypocrisy at all. They are for strict immigration controls and are making the point that they themselves came legally. It would be much harder to take a hard line on immigration if your family snuck into the country.