Mom in Florida chokes her teenage daughter's bully

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Anonymous wrote:Sounds like she took matters into her own hands.

Yeah....you gotta hand it to her.

Clearly, something got a hold of her.

Yeah. She needs to get a grip.

Maybe she was just trying to squeeze some sympathy for her daughter out of the boy.

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It's not that I think what she did was okay. I just expected her to be one type of person, the crazy, unhinged type, and then when I read her interview she sounded more thoughtful. For me, it meant that even a fairly reasonable person might be driven to some extremes by this type of thing. Anyway, at no point did I say that's all she should have to do after assaulting a minor is express regret. However, now that you've raised that issue, i guess I don't think she should go to jail for years and years or lose her children, either. Assaulting a minor, well, technically yes. She put her hands around his neck. Bad, bad move. Yes, she should get some punishment for that - a hefty fine and some community service. But do you really take this woman to be a menace, like she needs to be removed from the street? Her frame of mind will be considered and the provocation of what happened to her daughter, which does not appear to be in any dispute, will be considered. No, it is not okay. Obviously the mother is saying that she should not have done what she did. However, she said that complaints about the bullying fell on deaf ears; that she was not able to get help from the system. All of this will be noted. And in my opinion, it DOES make a difference. This isn't just some mom randomly assaulting a child. She was defending her own child. Again, I do NOT agree it was okay, but I don't think it's the same thing as someone just beating up a defenseless little boy. Child abuse can mean anything from beating the hell out of a 3 year old (or worse) to slapping a 17 year old. Big difference between the two, although both are wrong.

She did more than just "put her hands around his neck". The boy's mother decided to press charges when she found red marks on his neck. To squeeze hard enough to leave red marks that would not have faded by the time he got home after being assaulted at the mall? She grabbed him around the neck strong enough to bruise. Had this been a man, who had grabbed a girl around the neck hard enough to bruise, would ANYONE be making up excuses for why an adult who completely loses it enough to bruise a teenager should not be punished?

She's a violent criminal. Sorry, but there is something wrong when an adult uses serious violence on a minor except in self-defense and at a minimum that person needs to have a record of criminal violence and should be restricted in their proximity to children.

I don't know if a teenage girl who had been bullying and taunting another kid and said some of the despicable things this boy did would have many supporters if a dad did something similar. These kids need to be taught there are serious consequences for their actions. I'm sick of these shitty, entitled, privileged kids who go around doing their despicable deeds without any consequences. NJ webcam man and woman, Casey Anthony, and Amanda Foxes of the world.

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She did more than just "put her hands around his neck". The boy's mother decided to press charges when she found red marks on his neck. To squeeze hard enough to leave red marks that would not have faded by the time he got home after being assaulted at the mall? She grabbed him around the neck strong enough to bruise. Had this been a man, who had grabbed a girl around the neck hard enough to bruise, would ANYONE be making up excuses for why an adult who completely loses it enough to bruise a teenager should not be punished?

She's a violent criminal. Sorry, but there is something wrong when an adult uses serious violence on a minor except in self-defense and at a minimum that person needs to have a record of criminal violence and should be restricted in their proximity to children.

I don't know if a teenage girl who had been bullying and taunting another kid and said some of the despicable things this boy did would have many supporters if a dad did something similar. These kids need to be taught there are serious consequences for their actions. I'm sick of these shitty, entitled, privileged kids who go around doing their despicable deeds without any consequences. NJ webcam man and woman, Casey Anthony, and Amanda Foxes of the world.

I agree 100%. I think the bullying laws need to be more serious and have some bite to them. But under no circumstances do I think that there is any justification or allowance for anyone, adult or not, to physically assault someone in response to a non-violent bullying attack. The bully deserved to be punished. And so does this mother. At least NJ webcam dude was convicted on 15 counts and is serving jail time, paying a $10K fine, 300 hours of community service and counseling. I think this mother deserves all of the same, but in lesser quantities (her victim did not die). So, short jail time, a fine, community service and counseling seems about right. And a criminal record--which she deserves. You can also add the jacka$$ George Huguely to your list of entitled privileged kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Dear Lord -

any Italians catch her name?

Piscitella

LOL!

?????? C'mon, share!

sorry!

Pisciare means to piss! Her last name loosely translates into female pisser!

And she was indeed pissing all over that bully! Pissed off, I'd say!

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Anonymous wrote:Sounds like she took matters into her own hands.

Yeah....you gotta hand it to her.

Clearly, something got a hold of her.

Yeah. She needs to get a grip.

Maybe she was just trying to squeeze some sympathy for her daughter out of the boy.

These are soooo good! Keep 'em coming!

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Anonymous wrote:I agree with some of the comments from the article - that while what the mom did was wrong, if I was the parent of the bully, I wouldn't press charges. I'd tell my son, that's what you get for bullying a classmate.

CHild abuse my ass. He was17yo, 6ft and 200lbs. That's a man. That said, the facebook element is what gets me. If your child is being harmed on the internet- get her off the internet. Not fair, but better than letting her get suicidal. Little asshole's parents shouldn't ahve pressed charges. Likely they are assholes too.

Clearly you read something other than what I read. The title of the linked article says the bully was 14 years old. So did several other articles that I googled. Where did you get the information that he was 17, 6ft and 200lbs? Most news articles won't reveal details about th 14 yo because he's a minor and they aren't supposed to print identifying information about him.

He's also a victim of a crime.

He may in fact be the perpetrator of another crime (is bullying a crime?) but she succeeded in making him the victim. Good one there, mom.

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Mom thought this was Springer. Oh, wait, it's not.

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Why did she let her daughter chew gum on good morning America?

I wish someone would have taught me to fight as a child.

When I was a kid, playground justice settled all scores.
I think if it's put into the hands of adults to settle- it takes away an opportunity to develop courage and self esteem. I recall watching bullied kids getting their asses kicked, but the respect they got for standing up for themselves paid off and they were usually left alone for a spell after a big showdown.

Expelling someone for standing up for themselves is cruel.

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Did the bully's parents even know of their son's actions? Honestly, there have been times I've taunted kids in school, and I had good parents. Even kids with good parents do bad things. All kids need to be taught what is right and wrong and all teens need maturing. Even if the bully's parents did know, the woman had no right to choke the child. I'm surprised at some of these comments. If you really found out your child was bullying another child, would you seriously choke your child to out of anger and in an attempt to try and change their bullying ways? Would you seriously think it's OK for a stranger to choke your child to change their bullying ways? It's one thing to think harmful thoughts, but to act out on them? Do you people really think it's OK that she choked the child "just to teach a lesson" without real intent to harm? Are varying degrees of choking another person allowed? I think this woman needs jail time. Hopefully, she was being sincere on the show when she admitted she lost her temper. Either way, it's a smart move on her part because the charges against her have to be serious, and she needs all the support she can get now.

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Anonymous wrote:Did the bully's parents even know of their son's actions? Honestly, there have been times I've taunted kids in school, and I had good parents. Even kids with good parents do bad things. All kids need to be taught what is right and wrong and all teens need maturing. Even if the bully's parents did know, the woman had no right to choke the child. I'm surprised at some of these comments. If you really found out your child was bullying another child, would you seriously choke your child to out of anger and in an attempt to try and change their bullying ways? Would you seriously think it's OK for a stranger to choke your child to change their bullying ways? It's one thing to think harmful thoughts, but to act out on them? Do you people really think it's OK that she choked the child "just to teach a lesson" without real intent to harm? Are varying degrees of choking another person allowed? I think this woman needs jail time. Hopefully, she was being sincere on the show when she admitted she lost her temper. Either way, it's a smart move on her part because the charges against her have to be serious, and she needs all the support she can get now.

I can't speak for others but no, I don't think it's "okay" that she choked this kid. However, the people losing their ever-living mind over it, as if mom is this evil person, well, I hope your daughters are never bullied in that way. Mom admitted she lost her temper. This is NOT the same thing as being a violent criminal out there stalking people in order to harm them. This was a reaction, not just an action. She will not and should not get a huge penalty for this. It should sting, but she shouldn't have her life in shambles over this. It's NOT the same as beating up a little kid.

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Parents of bullies may or may not be helpful.

Frustrated by an anemic school (and police) response, I contacted the mother of my daughter's ringleading "mean girl" tormentor. She's a professional woman with a PhD who certainly agreed the bullying was terrible, but refused to believe her daughter was involved because, as she assured me, her daughter was "not like that" at all.

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I can't speak for others but no, I don't think it's "okay" that she choked this kid. However, the people losing their ever-living mind over it, as if mom is this evil person, well, I hope your daughters are never bullied in that way. Mom admitted she lost her temper. This is NOT the same thing as being a violent criminal out there stalking people in order to harm them. This was a reaction, not just an action. She will not and should not get a huge penalty for this. It should sting, but she shouldn't have her life in shambles over this. It's NOT the same as beating up a little kid.

Of course her life won't be in shambles over this, but she should receive appropriate punishment for this behavior - whatever this is, and maybe it's not jail time. A parent is not even allowed to choke their own child when losing their temper. It's not acceptable for a parent to choke another person's child. Adults are not allowed to lose their temper (not even once without ramifications) and hurt a child.

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I can't speak for others but no, I don't think it's "okay" that she choked this kid. However, the people losing their ever-living mind over it, as if mom is this evil person, well, I hope your daughters are never bullied in that way. Mom admitted she lost her temper. This is NOT the same thing as being a violent criminal out there stalking people in order to harm them. This was a reaction, not just an action. She will not and should not get a huge penalty for this. It should sting, but she shouldn't have her life in shambles over this. It's NOT the same as beating up a little kid.

Of course her life won't be in shambles over this, but she should receive appropriate punishment for this behavior - whatever this is, and maybe it's not jail time. A parent is not even allowed to choke their own child when losing their temper. It's not acceptable for a parent to choke another person's child. Adults are not allowed to lose their temper (not even once without ramifications) and hurt a child.

I agree with you (PP you quoted). I think the mom knows she is going to be punished for it and that's okay. I agree she shouldn't have done it. How terrible to choke a minor? So wasn't disagreeing with you. Nonetheless, it seems some folks on this thread are taking an approach where she can't have any contact with kids, should lose her own, etc, and I think c'mon now. It's not like she molested a child, or beat up a young boy. So I'm not really disagreeing with you and in no way do I think there should not be consequences; I just think some people on here think they should be much more draconian than the situation really merits.