Husband is being "recruited" to join the Masons

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A newly-raised brother here. The idea is brotherhood (temporal support) and self-improvement (spiritual support). Nothing cult-like about it.

16:10 is partially correct -- there is a separate branch of Freemasonry called Prince Hall Masonry which has a mostly if not entirely African-American membership. Blacks were only permitted entry into "mainstream" Freemasonry in the US in the past 20 years.

On the flip side, some of the Prince Hall Grand Lodges (each state has a "mainstream" and a Prince Hall Grand Lodge that is 100% independent of other state Grand Lodges) objected to the "poaching" of Blacks by the "mainstream" lodges.

FWIW, all 50 states' "mainstream" Grand Lodge recognize each other; only 7 "mainstream" Grand Lodges -- and you can guess where they are -- refuse to recognize their Prince Hall counterparts.

It can be a time sink if the brother permits it, with the fraternal visits, ceremonies, study, etc., etc. I do regret with a four year old at home and a working wife I cannot devote as much time as I might like. In fact, I joined a local government commission that meets the same time as the Lodge I'd want to join.

It will take perhaps 6-12 months to work from initiation to being raised as a Master Mason (this depends on how often you're able to meet with your mentor, and how intense the mentoring sessions are.)

The most active members (at least in the lodge I was raised in) seemed to be the men with their kids in high school and above and the men who did not yet have kids -- there were a few men with SAH wives that didn't seem to mind their husbands being heavily involved in Freemasonry. I was pretty rare in that my wife worked AND I had a kid still at home.

Making good men better -- I'm not sure why OP would find it objectionable.

My first thought on reading this is...Ewwww...

Really, your post is just creepy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, really? You've never been in a sorority or anything like that?

The rituals and secrets aren't anything weird, its meant to form a strong bond between the members and foster certain qualities in individuals. I can't tell you specifically what were in my sorority rituals but it involves speaking about friendship, the bonds that tie us together, the vows we take to be good sisters to each other and the organization.

It sounds like you butt into everyone's business and are really just upset by the fact that this doesn't include you and no one can tell you what it is about. Let it go.

Not the OP, but God no! A Sorority is your best way of defending the Masons? I never even considered pledging myself (GAG), but every college guy I've ever asked about it says that hearing a girl is a sorority chick means she is a major slut. Anyone who even brings that shit up after having graduated loses 25 points with me, automatically. You aren't helping your argument.

And the one guy who I knew in college who said he was a Mason (he even had a ring) was a total wackjob. Granted, he was probably lying, since I doubt a real mason would go around advertising, but this secret society BS is all about "we're better than you" and "we need something more to feel better about ourselves."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Lol Dh is so lucky to have you. You've admitted it will help in his career and will give him business contacts but because YOU don't like it you are going to sabotage his process. You sound like a major bitch

I'm crying over your remarks.

That's sarcastic in case your stupidity blocks your ability to detect tone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, really? You've never been in a sorority or anything like that?

The rituals and secrets aren't anything weird, its meant to form a strong bond between the members and foster certain qualities in individuals. I can't tell you specifically what were in my sorority rituals but it involves speaking about friendship, the bonds that tie us together, the vows we take to be good sisters to each other and the organization.

It sounds like you butt into everyone's business and are really just upset by the fact that this doesn't include you and no one can tell you what it is about. Let it go.

Not the OP, but God no! A Sorority is your best way of defending the Masons? I never even considered pledging myself (GAG), but every college guy I've ever asked about it says that hearing a girl is a sorority chick means she is a major slut. Anyone who even brings that shit up after having graduated loses 25 points with me, automatically. You aren't helping your argument.

And the one guy who I knew in college who said he was a Mason (he even had a ring) was a total wackjob. Granted, he was probably lying, since I doubt a real mason would go around advertising, but this secret society BS is all about "we're better than you" and "we need something more to feel better about ourselves."

Guess you went to a low tier state school?
Not true at all at elite colleges. The best students, men and women, are in the Greek systems at Ivies.

[Anonymous]

So who's their "god?"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2OXuXTkBNQ

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My friend was a Demolay and when he converted to Christianity the first thing he did was to request to leave it.

He said some rituals clashed with his faith. When his father converted he also left the group.

The wife of an ex-mason mentioned zoophilia as part of the rituals once. Ew!

Demolay is a youth group. His father would not have been in the group. This post is not only a troll, but a really bad at lying troll.

Duh! My friend was a Demolay his dad was a Mason. Better now? (I was 18 when this happened)

I went to college with his sister and both converted from having no religion to being Christian. Later mom converted than, later the dad.

The boy quit the Demolay thing and the dad got pretty upset. Once dad converted he understood the son's POV and agreed that some practices clashed with their new belief. We tried asking why but he never explained. I didn't feel it was my place to ask again.

From my understanding, much of the reason that the masons clash with organized religion is b/c they don't go along with the whole "organized religion" part of it. They believe in God, but from the ones I have spoken too, find most religious institutions to be contradictory to what spirituality is truly about. Like when you go to church and they pass that collection basket around....does God need money? When you pay your dues to your synagogue, it's like paying to pray. Some synagogues you have to buy tickets to go to the high holiday services. God is all around you. You don't need a building to be close to God. From the little I know, that is more along the lines of what a mason believes. So of course when your friend "converted" their new ideals are going to clash with what the masons believe.

[Anonymous]

Can I join, too? Need some new clubs and hobbies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, really? You've never been in a sorority or anything like that?

The rituals and secrets aren't anything weird, its meant to form a strong bond between the members and foster certain qualities in individuals. I can't tell you specifically what were in my sorority rituals but it involves speaking about friendship, the bonds that tie us together, the vows we take to be good sisters to each other and the organization.

It sounds like you butt into everyone's business and are really just upset by the fact that this doesn't include you and no one can tell you what it is about. Let it go.

Not the OP, but God no! A Sorority is your best way of defending the Masons? I never even considered pledging myself (GAG), but every college guy I've ever asked about it says that hearing a girl is a sorority chick means she is a major slut. Anyone who even brings that shit up after having graduated loses 25 points with me, automatically. You aren't helping your argument.

And the one guy who I knew in college who said he was a Mason (he even had a ring) was a total wackjob. Granted, he was probably lying, since I doubt a real mason would go around advertising, but this secret society BS is all about "we're better than you" and "we need something more to feel better about ourselves."

Guess you went to a low tier state school?
Not true at all at elite colleges. The best students, men and women, are in the Greek systems at Ivies.

Ding dong, you're wrong. I went to private universities. But what difference would it make where someone pledged anyway--aren't they all held to the same ridiculous standards regardless?

[Anonymous]

My husband did his research, and decided that he didn't want any part of a group that automatically, dogmatically excluded blacks, catholics, and women. He wasn't able to sacrifice his self-worth and his principles to join a group that might have helped his professional life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can I join, too? Need some new clubs and hobbies.

only if you're willing to make Lucifer your god - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2OXuXTkBNQ

[Anonymous]

Troll. Moving on

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, really? You've never been in a sorority or anything like that?

The rituals and secrets aren't anything weird, its meant to form a strong bond between the members and foster certain qualities in individuals. I can't tell you specifically what were in my sorority rituals but it involves speaking about friendship, the bonds that tie us together, the vows we take to be good sisters to each other and the organization.

It sounds like you butt into everyone's business and are really just upset by the fact that this doesn't include you and no one can tell you what it is about. Let it go.

nope
a GDI in college, as I don't believe in Group Think

Oh, for goodness sake, OP. The NAVY SEALS have secrets that they cannot tell anyone. Does that make them elite and cult like? Most fraternities do as well. This is not something that is reserved and special to the Masons. So they do not share their ceremonies and rituals, who cares? Why is everything public knowledge? I can give you the name of several Native American Indian tribes that have similar beliefs, they have secret rituals & ceremonies. Would you press them for info or respect their tribes and leave them alone. Again, we are talking about a group that is HUNDREDS of years old, not something being run by Jim Jones.

Get a grip. And who cares if women can join. Does everything have to be equal opportunity? Put away your Dan Brown books and let your husband make his own decisions. You crucified the Masonic organization before you even wrote your opening post. You didn't ask for open opinions, you gave your opinion, and then continued to list why the masons did not suit you. If you aren't going to be open minded then why bother asking at all.

Yeah, but those are real secrets. With a real purpose.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, really? You've never been in a sorority or anything like that?

The rituals and secrets aren't anything weird, its meant to form a strong bond between the members and foster certain qualities in individuals. I can't tell you specifically what were in my sorority rituals but it involves speaking about friendship, the bonds that tie us together, the vows we take to be good sisters to each other and the organization.

It sounds like you butt into everyone's business and are really just upset by the fact that this doesn't include you and no one can tell you what it is about. Let it go.

Not the OP, but God no! A Sorority is your best way of defending the Masons? I never even considered pledging myself (GAG), but every college guy I've ever asked about it says that hearing a girl is a sorority chick means she is a major slut. Anyone who even brings that shit up after having graduated loses 25 points with me, automatically. You aren't helping your argument.

And the one guy who I knew in college who said he was a Mason (he even had a ring) was a total wackjob. Granted, he was probably lying, since I doubt a real mason would go around advertising, but this secret society BS is all about "we're better than you" and "we need something more to feel better about ourselves."

Guess you went to a low tier state school?
Not true at all at elite colleges. The best students, men and women, are in the Greek systems at Ivies.

The best students at Ivies are at the eating clubs, not greeks, and not at all the same.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can I join, too? Need some new clubs and hobbies.

only if you're willing to make Lucifer your god - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2OXuXTkBNQ

Maybe just that one guy is insane or is reading the instructions wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can I join, too? Need some new clubs and hobbies.

only if you're willing to make Lucifer your god - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2OXuXTkBNQ

Maybe just that one guy is insane or is reading the instructions wrong.

as in the instructions in the Masonic bible, if there is one???

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, really? You've never been in a sorority or anything like that?

The rituals and secrets aren't anything weird, its meant to form a strong bond between the members and foster certain qualities in individuals. I can't tell you specifically what were in my sorority rituals but it involves speaking about friendship, the bonds that tie us together, the vows we take to be good sisters to each other and the organization.

It sounds like you butt into everyone's business and are really just upset by the fact that this doesn't include you and no one can tell you what it is about. Let it go.

Not the OP, but God no! A Sorority is your best way of defending the Masons? I never even considered pledging myself (GAG), but every college guy I've ever asked about it says that hearing a girl is a sorority chick means she is a major slut. Anyone who even brings that shit up after having graduated loses 25 points with me, automatically. You aren't helping your argument.

And the one guy who I knew in college who said he was a Mason (he even had a ring) was a total wackjob. Granted, he was probably lying, since I doubt a real mason would go around advertising, but this secret society BS is all about "we're better than you" and "we need something more to feel better about ourselves."

Guess you went to a low tier state school?
Not true at all at elite colleges. The best students, men and women, are in the Greek systems at Ivies.

and some of the best liberal arts colleges have dumped Greeks entirely as the antiquated b.s. that they are...


sheesh, this whole thread just proves that Marx was right, religion IS the opiate of the masses.