First sleep over for my daughter, and the mom was drinking wine.

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Anonymous wrote:Would you guys be OK if your child had to go to the ER and a buzzed mom had to drive them there?

How about she call 911 instead?

Would you be OK with your child in need of EMERGENCY CARE and the adult in charge be drunk?

911 will ask the mom to perform mouth to mouth, chest compression and the woman is buzzed. Will you be OK?

You do know the odds of all that happening are close to infinitesimal, right? Look, I'm the one who said I'd never drink if someone else's kids are over because I wouldn't want the parents to be worried. But really, this is getting crazy. You shouldn't plan your lives around the most unlikely scenario possible.

Oh so we shouldn't wear seat belts either, right? and why buckle the kids on their carseats?
Let's all get wasted, we don't need to be sober when there are kids in the house, what are the odds?

BTW, did you check the smoke alarms?

Make up your mind, lady. You said one thing and now you're trying to make excuses to justify someone else's stupid mistake? Are you drunk or something? It does not make sense.

Oh, come on! There's a MUCH greater chance of your child being hurt in a car accident than in someone else's house while the parent is drinking. Quit trying to justify your paranoia.

And I never changed my mind. Light drinking isn't dangerous. My choice to refrain from drinking is to make other parents feel more at ease and secure. It's a matter of manners, not safety.

Oh, so you think more children get hurt in car accidents if you compare the number of domestic accidents? REALLY?

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note that I'm talking about injuries and not deaths.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:note that I'm talking about injuries and not deaths.

I think you've been drinking. But yeah, for something that rises to the level of needing hospitalization, for a 6 year old girl on a sleepover? The car trip over there was more dangerous for her than just hanging out in a house.

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Anonymous wrote:note that I'm talking about injuries and not deaths.

I think you've been drinking. But yeah, for something that rises to the level of needing hospitalization, for a 6 year old girl on a sleepover? The car trip over there was more dangerous for her than just hanging out in a house.

You clearly have no idea about how serious this is. I doubt you ever had to call 911 because a child's life was in danger. You sound like a total moron who has never been in this situation. Refrain from drinking because you're polite, thinking it's OK to do things just because statistic numbers are low? I would never leave my child under the care of such a person. I wish we knew who you are.

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More children are hurt and injured at home (or in another person's home) than in car accidents BY FAR. And inadequate supervision is usually involved. At parties, this is sometimes call 'group parenting' which is really code for 'they'll be fine, they're watching each other and there must be another adult who is more sober and paying better attention than I am...will you pass the wine?"

In general:
http://www.progressiveic.com/n5june03.htm

For specific examples:

http://www.connectionnewspapers.com/article.asp?article=251428&paper=70&cat=104

and

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,521777,00.html

or

http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2010/09/boy-8-shot-dead-in-dolton-home.html

and

http://www.whiotv.com/news/23793750/detail.html

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:note that I'm talking about injuries and not deaths.

I think you've been drinking. But yeah, for something that rises to the level of needing hospitalization, for a 6 year old girl on a sleepover? The car trip over there was more dangerous for her than just hanging out in a house.

You clearly have no idea about how serious this is. I doubt you ever had to call 911 because a child's life was in danger. You sound like a total moron who has never been in this situation. Refrain from drinking because you're polite, thinking it's OK to do things just because statistic numbers are low? I would never leave my child under the care of such a person. I wish we knew who you are.

Agree that the pp sounds young, naive, immature and ignorant of the reality of life's dangers. The adolescent mindset of 'that's so rare, we don't have to make ourselves inconvenienced for that" is frightening and I do wish I knew who you are b/c I really don't want my child at your house. When there is a lightening storm, do you let your children play in outside? Do they wear helmets on bikes? Have you ever read the emergency info on an airplane? Life is full of risks that, although extremely rare, you must be prepared for the them.

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Anybody here remembers a post from last summer about how silent drowning is? It usually happens when there's a bunch of kids in the water and awesome swimmers drinking beer by the pool side. There's no screaming, gasping for air or the like. The child slowly drowns to death w/o anybody noticing.

I'm so scared of letting my children under the care of people like PPs!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:note that I'm talking about injuries and not deaths.

I think you've been drinking. But yeah, for something that rises to the level of needing hospitalization, for a 6 year old girl on a sleepover? The car trip over there was more dangerous for her than just hanging out in a house.

Oh so you also don't require your nanny to know CPR? What are the chances of any of your children need it. Just relaaaaaaaax...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:note that I'm talking about injuries and not deaths.

I think you've been drinking. But yeah, for something that rises to the level of needing hospitalization, for a 6 year old girl on a sleepover? The car trip over there was more dangerous for her than just hanging out in a house.

Oh so you also don't require your nanny to know CPR? What are the chances of any of your children need it. Just relaaaaaaaax...

And school fire drills? What a waste of time! When was the last time you heard of a child dying in a school fire?! And those staff training for code blue and code red? Another waste of time and energy. I mean seriously...what are the odds of someone shooting kids in a school? Or randomly on the roads? People hijacking airplanes? And crashing them on purpose? Come on people. Get real. The chances are infinitesimal, really.

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I guess I'm out of step from the DCUM paranoia, but I would interpret the invitation to have a glass of wine as an opportunity to get to know the parents better and socialize a bit. I don't equate a glass of wine among a group of moms with "partying;" maybe if they offerred shots of tequila I'd be concerned. The hysterics worried about the parents' capabilities to perform CPR after one parent has had a glass of wine sound completely insane to me. Then again I also wonder about the OP's post; I don't know too many 6yos who regularly do group sleepovers. I have a 6yo, and he's never had a single sleepover, and any talk of sleepovers tends to involve one child and families that know each other very well. So I wonder if the post was bait, and I have trouble believing that there are really hordes of DCUMs who'd be outraged at being invited to have a glass of wine and get to know parents who will be caring for their child for the evening.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I guess I'm out of step from the DCUM paranoia, but I would interpret the invitation to have a glass of wine as an opportunity to get to know the parents better and socialize a bit. I don't equate a glass of wine among a group of moms with "partying;" maybe if they offerred shots of tequila I'd be concerned. The hysterics worried about the parents' capabilities to perform CPR after one parent has had a glass of wine sound completely insane to me. Then again I also wonder about the OP's post; I don't know too many 6yos who regularly do group sleepovers. I have a 6yo, and he's never had a single sleepover, and any talk of sleepovers tends to involve one child and families that know each other very well. So I wonder if the post was bait, and I have trouble believing that there are really hordes of DCUMs who'd be outraged at being invited to have a glass of wine and get to know parents who will be caring for their child for the evening.

There are periodically threads with alcohol involved and it always turns into a huge fight. There are apparently a whole lot of people out there who equate having one drink with getting drunk.

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It sounded like a sleepover bday party and yes, some 6 year olds do have them.

I would personally prefer that adults in charge of my child for an evening abstain from drinking. I really am surprised that that is so unthinkable for most people. The need to drink or discomfort in socializing without it must be really strong for a lot of people.

If moms were just staying for a few minutes at drop off I would be even more concerned about serving them alcohol right before they walk out the door. If they were all going to stay and kill a few bottles that isn't cool with a house full of other people's kids. Esp kids as young as 6. OP had no way to know which scenario was in play and otherwise had only the choice of taking her kid home.

Not OP but I've refered to my kid as "chill" as have others. I'm 40.

For kids that aren't used to being around adults who are drinking a lot it can be scary to see them acting differently. For a lot of 6 year olds this was probably their first time sleeping over. Was the hostess really going to be as attentive in her supervision after a few drinks? By definition wouldn't the answer be no? Why is it ok and even cool that she can't not drink for an evening? If she was making pitchers of margaretas or gin and tonics would that get a different response? Why does wine always get such a pass on DCUM?

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I'm having trouble understanding the concept of always having one person abstain from alcohol if you are responsible for children -- do you also do that with just your own kids at home?

WMy husband and I are routinely responsible for 3 children (our own.) We certainly do drink with dinner on the weekends. Both of us drink, maybe two glassess of wine. Hell, sometimes we have a nightcap. In such a situation, would you just have ONE of us drink, because the other needs to be able to perform CPR or rescue our child from drowning?

If you have a glass of wine, would you not trust yourself to, say, supervise a child in a bathtub?

Hell -- after a glass or two of wine, would you not operate the oven or stove? (Might set the house on fire?)

Would you fear that after a glass or two of wine, you might accidentally drop slippery stuff on the stairs, and forget to wipe it up -- leading to children taking a spill and needing medical treatment, which you'd be unable to arrange for them, because you both are tipsy?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:23:12 again. If you don't know the parents well enough to know they won't get "sloshed", then you probably don't know them well enough for your child to sleep at their house.

Very accurate assessment. I'd be surprised if anyone posting here doesn't have at least one friend or mom of a child's friend who could continue drinking after one glass of wine. If you know that this person will not be limited in ANY way to parent appropriately, then okay. Otherwise, no. When you're responsible for children, you need to be very alert and focused on them.

[Anonymous]

Have any of you ever actually hosted a sleepover for 6 year old girls? One glass of wine is practically required in order to keep your sanity.


I'm kidding. But in all seriousness, as long as the mom is not offering it to the kids, I think it sounds fine.