First sleep over for my daughter, and the mom was drinking wine.

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Anonymous wrote:I think when you reach around 40, or maybe the late 30s, then you do need to be more careful about alcohol intake. As President Bush said, he realized that too much of his social life revolved around alcohol, and he wasn't entirely comfortable with that. I can see that point of view.

Me, too.

Yes, let's all turn to Bush for guidance and insights on self-control.

I am very liberal, but unlike others, I don't feel the need to always disparage those who I don't agree with politically.

There was nothing wrong with what he said. Don't take political advice from him, but hopefully his words on drinking helped others.

He was a drunk. That was his problem. He did not realize social drinking was a problem. There is a difference.

You say that with such derision. I admire anyone who admits he has a problem and then commits to sobriety, which he has done for a very long time. Very different from those political leaders who engage in behaviors that they deny repeatedly, repeat for an extended period of time, and try to rationalize.

I am just saying, he did not realize he had a slight problem in that he was in his 40's and suddenly realized his social life revolved around having a glass or two of wine, which is what the PP was implying since that's what this thread is about. He was a fall-down drunk. Hence he had to change his ways. There's a big difference. (Very commendable but not at all like suddenly realizing, hey, at all social gatherings I find myself with a glass of wine in my hand.)

I'm not so sure he was a "fall down drunk" in the physically dependent, drinking all day sense. I think he had a problem controlling his social drinking in that when he did drink at socially appropriate times, he usually binged.

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Bush >>>>> Obama

back to the thread. Wine in moderation should be fine, and one glass should not affect parenting.

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Anonymous wrote:If I have one drink, I soon have two, then its three, then its shots of jaeger bombs, then its doing lines in the bathroom and maybe a tab of E. Downward spiral and slippery slope.

You are joking, but sadly, this is true for some people, hopefully a small number of people, but some. In fact, this has described my husband on several occasions over the last 10 years, minus the lines (usually) and the E. And at times when you might not expect it. Which is why I am never comfortable drinking anymore. Ever.

And, whether admitted or not, I'm sure there are many of us here who can related and understand.

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Anonymous wrote:If I have one drink, I soon have two, then its three, then its shots of jaeger bombs, then its doing lines in the bathroom and maybe a tab of E. Downward spiral and slippery slope.

You are joking, but sadly, this is true for some people, hopefully a small number of people, but some. In fact, this has described my husband on several occasions over the last 10 years, minus the lines (usually) and the E. And at times when you might not expect it. Which is why I am never comfortable drinking anymore. Ever.

And, whether admitted or not, I'm sure there are many of us here who can related and understand.

PP and thank you for saying this.

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Anonymous wrote:If I have one drink, I soon have two, then its three, then its shots of jaeger bombs, then its doing lines in the bathroom and maybe a tab of E. Downward spiral and slippery slope.

You are joking, but sadly, this is true for some people, hopefully a small number of people, but some. In fact, this has described my husband on several occasions over the last 10 years, minus the lines (usually) and the E. And at times when you might not expect it. Which is why I am never comfortable drinking anymore. Ever.

And, whether admitted or not, I'm sure there are many of us here who can related and understand.

PP and thank you for saying this.

You are welcome, and I meant every word.

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PP reminds me of the most bizzare convo I overheard the guy in line behind us at Trader Joes having on his cell phone. Maybe early 30s, in a suit, well groomed. He said that he was "thinking" of stopping drinking that that he was getting wasted at times without meaning to and that sometimes he was violent. He remembered very little of it. Um, "thinking"?

Loved that my kids heard it all (we were trapped in those rope lines).

Drinking can be a slippery slope for some. A glass of wine is not a huge deal, but daily might indicate some dependence.

Thought troll early on but appreciate the knowledge that many people may be knocking a few back when hosting my kids for sleepovers. Like the idea of the phoone they can use discretely in an emergency. I think many many people in the DC area drink daily. Not one of them, but I know a whole bunch.

Btw non-drinking poster, I don't think "it's all in your head" or "you are being too sensitive", I think you are getting peer pressure so that your choices change to validate those of the group.

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I miss those days of just getting hammered every Friday and Saturday night, especially at Dewey Beach in the summer, and especially when you hooked up. But, a few blackouts later and I've mostly avoided hard liquor and shots for 10 years plus. Have no problem stopping with one beer or one wine, though, at a work or social function.

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Anonymous wrote:I miss those days of just getting hammered every Friday and Saturday night, especially at Dewey Beach in the summer, and especially when you hooked up. But, a few blackouts later and I've mostly avoided hard liquor and shots for 10 years plus. Have no problem stopping with one beer or one wine, though, at a work or social function.

If your child were to embrace your DB lifestyle, would you be ok with it, confident that it was a normal part of young adulthood or would you worry that they may have inherited a tendency to "be overserved' and that it may get out of control?

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Anonymous wrote:I miss those days of just getting hammered every Friday and Saturday night, especially at Dewey Beach in the summer, and especially when you hooked up. But, a few blackouts later and I've mostly avoided hard liquor and shots for 10 years plus. Have no problem stopping with one beer or one wine, though, at a work or social function.

If your child were to embrace your DB lifestyle, would you be ok with it, confident that it was a normal part of young adulthood or would you worry that they may have inherited a tendency to "be overserved' and that it may get out of control?

just because it was a great time doesn't mean it was responsible. drugs are great fun too, but they can also be very dangerous. speeding down the highway at 100 mph is great fun, etc.

so to answer your question, no - I would certainly not wish my child would drink to excess or party to excess like I did in my misspent 20s and early 30s. I'm sure I will be more strict than my parents because of my own history.

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Anonymous wrote:I drink occasionally and frequently go to parties and don't drink at all. I have gone months without a single glass of wine or cocktail at a party. Sometimes I just don't feel like it, sometimes I had some allergy meds. I have never felt judged, nor have I made excuses - perhaps you are a bit defensive as a non-drinker? Maybe you make a bigger deal than you think you do of being a non-drinker.

I'm the non-drinker PP, and you might be right about me being overly defensive. When I say "no thank you" to alcohol and someone responds along the lines of "Really? Oh come on now. . ." I can definitely understand that I might be reading way too much into such a response. Do other people let off a vibe that I am uncool or uptight because I am not drinking or does that feeling come from my own insecurities? That's why I asked what people are really thinking about a non-drinker in the group. It does seem that several people assume I am either pregnant or a recovering alcoholic (I'm neither), as if there are no other socially acceptable reasons not to drink.

I am the PP you quoted...well, that's poor manners on their part - but without being there, it's hard to know whether it's the same "are you sure, come on now" when you say you don't want dessert, or another helping of what's for dinner. In my circle you wouldn't be seen as uncool or uptight. some people drink, some don't. It's really not a big deal. I would only assume someone was pregnant if she drank frequently and suddenly refused wine - so, if it was out of character for her.

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I'd be drinking too if I was having a sleepover for a bunch of 6 year olds. Who would do this? I certainly wouldn't let my 6 year old go to a sleepover party. No way.

I'm fine with the drinking.

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My son is 3 and we've already had kids over for the night - not sleepovers, but more of favors to friends so they could have a 'date night'. I honestly don't recall if I had a glass of wine that night or not... We have a glass or two of wine with dinner every couple weeks, not every night, but I wouldn't have considered it 'bad' to have a glass of wine while my friends kid was over. I don't think it impacts my parenting. So for this mom having a sleepover, it may have been an occasional glass of wine or a social nicity. I doubt she's getting drunk at the sleepover.

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Lighten up, Frances. We drink wine with dinner most nights. And if we ever hosted a 6 year old sleepover, we would DEFINITELY be having some wine for that. I am SO over this attitude toward alcohol on this list. There are people who can enjoy wine on a daily basis, with their meals, and not be problem drinkers. See, for example, many people in Europe.

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Anonymous wrote:Lighten up, Frances. We drink wine with dinner most nights. And if we ever hosted a 6 year old sleepover, we would DEFINITELY be having some wine for that. I am SO over this attitude toward alcohol on this list. There are people who can enjoy wine on a daily basis, with their meals, and not be problem drinkers. See, for example, many people in Europe.

So I'm guessing you're totally drunk and angry, and that's why you bumped up this post that hasn't been replied to in 12 days?

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