Ax vs Ask

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Correct your child at home and let it be. My son could correct the grammar of half the adults he meets. But that is not the measure of a man.

A vocie of reason on DCUMD. Thank you.

This makes sense to me, too.

[Anonymous]

Hard to believe so many people here are afraid to tell a teacher to pronounce a word in proper standard english. I think it shows a profound lack of respect for the teacher that you assume she could not change her pronunciation of that one word.

I have a regional dialect that drifts back whenever I'm in that region. In fact, I tend to pick up accents and colloquialisms pretty quickly, but when I'm speaking professionally or with a group of people not from my home region, I speak standard English, as do the people around me.

What if a white teacher said "ax" - would that be OK?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hard to believe so many people here are afraid to tell a teacher to pronounce a word in proper standard english. I think it shows a profound lack of respect for the teacher that you assume she could not change her pronunciation of that one word.

I have a regional dialect that drifts back whenever I'm in that region. In fact, I tend to pick up accents and colloquialisms pretty quickly, but when I'm speaking professionally or with a group of people not from my home region, I speak standard English, as do the people around me.

What if a white teacher said "ax" - would that be OK?

I honestly think it would be okay with almost everyone if a white teacher had an accent of any kind. I'm 100 percent positive that the issue is the OP correcting a black teacher.

"I ASKS why" is just plain wrong but "Why do you ax" is only a minor mispronunciation -- because 'Ax' is ASK, people, and we all know what the teacher means. I may think less of someone in a position of authority for mispronouncing a word, but I would never correct someone for pronouncing something in a dialect.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hard to believe so many people here are afraid to tell a teacher to pronounce a word in proper standard english. I think it shows a profound lack of respect for the teacher that you assume she could not change her pronunciation of that one word.

I have a regional dialect that drifts back whenever I'm in that region. In fact, I tend to pick up accents and colloquialisms pretty quickly, but when I'm speaking professionally or with a group of people not from my home region, I speak standard English, as do the people around me.

What if a white teacher said "ax" - would that be OK?

Why is it so hard to understand that it's not a race thing? No one is saying it's okay, they're explaining why she might speak that way. As 20:56 noted, "ax" isn't just part of AAVE, it's also part of some white Southern dialects.

[Anonymous]

I grew up in the South (TN)--never heard anyone that isn't AA use "ax". Asked DH (who is AA)--he's from NC. He thinks it's basically AA, too, although it wasn't really allowed in his family.

Anyway, I think part of the larger problem might be that if this teacher regularly uses "ax", she is most likely making a lot of other grammatical errors and mispronounciations in her speech as well. Regardless of whether this "dialect" is acceptable, teachers really should speak only Standard American English in class.

[Anonymous]

Everyone is assuming the teacher is AA. I don't think OP mentioned the teacher's race. Wow

[Anonymous]

White folks in Georgia say ax

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I grew up in the South (TN)--never heard anyone that isn't AA use "ax". Asked DH (who is AA)--he's from NC. He thinks it's basically AA, too, although it wasn't really allowed in his family.

Anyway, I think part of the larger problem might be that if this teacher regularly uses "ax", she is most likely making a lot of other grammatical errors and mispronounciations in her speech as well. Regardless of whether this "dialect" is acceptable, teachers really should speak only Standard American English in class.

Exactly - standard english only. That means no "Her and I" and no "irregardless" and no "the floor needs washed" no "nucular," etc.

These are mistakes I've heard educated people make but I'm sure they can change those habits, if only someone would let them know. It might be hard in a social situation, but teaching is different - they have an obligation to speak correctly to their students.

It's hard to believe that parents eager to see ineffective teachers fired would make excuses for teachers who don't speak standard English.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I grew up in the South (TN)--never heard anyone that isn't AA use "ax". Asked DH (who is AA)--he's from NC. He thinks it's basically AA, too, although it wasn't really allowed in his family.

Anyway, I think part of the larger problem might be that if this teacher regularly uses "ax", she is most likely making a lot of other grammatical errors and mispronounciations in her speech as well. Regardless of whether this "dialect" is acceptable, teachers really should speak only Standard American English in class.

Exactly - standard english only. That means no "Her and I" and no "irregardless" and no "the floor needs washed" no "nucular," etc.

These are mistakes I've heard educated people make but I'm sure they can change those habits, if only someone would let them know. It might be hard in a social situation, but teaching is different - they have an obligation to speak correctly to their students.

It's hard to believe that parents eager to see ineffective teachers fired would make excuses for teachers who don't speak standard English.

How about "the floor needs to be warshed" as a PP said? Would you really correct pronunciation? Because 'ax' is 'ask' mispronounced (or pronounced in a dialect) and if it is used grammatically correctly then i don't see how you can correct someone for that.

[Anonymous]

This was the reason I wanted my child in the Spanish Immersion program so he wouldn't pick up those type of bad habits. I observed an AA teacher in another class yelling at her all AA students using "AA dialect" I could barely understand a word she said. If you want to speak that way at home among your friends that's one thing, but don't bring it into the classroom.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This was the reason I wanted my child in the Spanish Immersion program so he wouldn't pick up those type of bad habits. I observed an AA teacher in another class yelling at her all AA students using "AA dialect" I could barely understand a word she said. If you want to speak that way at home among your friends that's one thing, but don't bring it into the classroom.

Wow. These are the times when I know I need a serious break from DCUM. This is about the 4th ongoing thread of "let's heap on the negative African American stereotyping". An incredible amount of ignorance from such "educated" people. Just try your best not to pass it on to your kids. Do your part to break the cycle. I, for one, know my kids will be learning to treat people as individuals instead of thinking they know anything about them just by looking at their skin color. Which is all these stereotypes are good for. Much easier than actually getting to know someone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This was the reason I wanted my child in the Spanish Immersion program so he wouldn't pick up those type of bad habits. I observed an AA teacher in another class yelling at her all AA students using "AA dialect" I could barely understand a word she said. If you want to speak that way at home among your friends that's one thing, but don't bring it into the classroom.

Wow. These are the times when I know I need a serious break from DCUM. This is about the 4th ongoing thread of "let's heap on the negative African American stereotyping". An incredible amount of ignorance from such "educated" people. Just try your best not to pass it on to your kids. Do your part to break the cycle. I, for one, know my kids will be learning to treat people as individuals instead of thinking they know anything about them just by looking at their skin color. Which is all these stereotypes are good for. Much easier than actually getting to know someone.

Try not to let 19:38 get you too worked up, I figure that had to be his/her intention. Or maybe I just don't want to believe that there are people who think like this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This was the reason I wanted my child in the Spanish Immersion program so he wouldn't pick up those type of bad habits. I observed an AA teacher in another class yelling at her all AA students using "AA dialect" I could barely understand a word she said. If you want to speak that way at home among your friends that's one thing, but don't bring it into the classroom.

Oh come on! I think you're just trying to be provocative and ugly.

[Anonymous]

Man, I hate when people say Brett Farve! So ignorant!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Man, I hate when people say Brett Farve! So ignorant!

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Brett Lorenzo Favre (pronounced /?f?rv/;[1] born October 10, 1969)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brett_Favre