The “chasing the game” podcasts on YouTube are very eye-opening

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Anonymous wrote:I think that some of the #TheProJourney episodes by Kyle Wilson were helpful (mainly the YouthSoccerPlaybook). I realized that my child and I focused on things early that would not really be that useful until later on, and the focus really should have been on dribbling and 1v1. Compared to other travel players, that is the main gap that we're still catching up on.


Kyle is annoying but the Youth Soccer Playbook is everything you need to know. I documented the steps and it is the blueprint we are still following. If you start late, you just have to adapt it but the principles remain the same when building a player.


So many top professionals took different routes, it paints a clear picture that the reality is different than the theories and there's no single playbook to fit all


Ok, if you really think you should follow-it like a checklist, you really need to loosen up. It can be boiled down to you should not be in travel soccer until you know the basics. Learn how to attack 1v1. Played small-sided as much as possible. Learn to juggle and develop a quality first touch.

People are running to False8 and Next Star hoping for them to fix their kid when they kid can’t keep the ball up 50x or do a basic body feint.

If you have a better playbook to use as a blueprint please share. Parents deserve to have something better than what these clubs are telling them as most of it is garbage.


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There are no secrets left for what it takes to give yourself the opportunity to become a top level player

The information is out there and repeated five million times each day on social media etc

Most people are looking for the easy shortcut and magic pill playbook

The 1% succeed because they're willing to do what the 99% won't



There's no secrets, but there is a ton of conflicting information out there. For those who are unfamiliar with soccer or sports in general, having a simple sequence of areas to focus on can change the path and opportunities for that player. There are probably kids who want to have the chance to play different positions, but have been pidgeon-holed to playing the same position the entire time because they are too far behind in skills that should have been developed early.


Young kids not playing different positions is 100% a coaching problem


But it is happening on the first team of major local clubs. I know this now as a parent who went though a lot of podcasts and Kyle’s playbook. But if a parent does not know, their kid is just biding time from kids who know. Why not help them understand what is standard? That is how we collectively get better than these information paywalls.

Many local kids “put in the time” as a prior poster said and reach DCU academy and stall because they don’t know what to do with their time because they are not executing the steps in Kyle’s playbook. He did not create it. It is based on the Croatian Development Curriculum which is pretty sound and more strategic than anything you will get from a club.


This is my biggest issue with Kyle…he’s operating as a self-promoter and influencer. There’s zero accountability for outcomes, but plenty of “insider knowledge” positioned as the key to unlocking your child’s future. The pitch is simple…send your kid, trust the process, don’t ask too many questions. It’s the social media version of a rainmaker scam wrapped in a big store ruse model.

You’re seeing the same playbook elsewhere. FV from BE posted something similar last week…“trust me, the coach…not even yourself.” That’s not expertise…it’s control.

There is no secret sauce. There are fundamentals, and they have to be mastered. And mastery isn’t “yeah, my kid can do that…next.” Master musicians still run scales every day…there’s a reason for that.

False 8 is drifting into the same lane. Sped up social videos to make it look like their athletes are so far ahead, “elite” groups, “accelerated” pathways, exclusivity…it’s all designed to appeal to the payer so F8 can secure access to the actual asset…the kid. That model should make you pause.

I wouldn’t be surprised if the next step is deeper capture…schooling, lifestyle, full-environment control. We’ve already seen versions of that with Sisu and Beast Academy. At some point, it stops being development and starts looking a lot more like a funnel…separating people from their money.

That legitimate model already exists at IMG, and are they pumping out Cavans? Christians? Tobins? Etc?


As the author of the post you are responding too, I 99% agree with your take. Except, it only cost me commercial breaks during the NFL and college 🏈 season to go through Kyle’s playbook with a legal pad and take notes and then read the Croatian model in order to build an IDP for my kid of pure fundamentals. Because I actually have a meat and potatoes blueprint now, that is why I could take my kid to a False8 session and realize it is a complete joke.

I really like what Kyle and Christian both “say” but I have the ability to differentiate their information from their sales pitches.

Here is what I can say. My kid is currently playing at the same level as kids who starting playing club soccer 2 years before my kids first year playing rec. If Kyle’s free playbook was 💩, he would not have caught up so quickly. Those kids had the “best” youth coaches at the “top” clubs and yet here we are in the same pot and now the separation begins because I have a plan for my kid built for free from these guys. For my kid to have caught up so quickly, most people are doing the wrong things.


What has Kyle and Christian invented?


Original IG content for soccer parents. I’m sorry, did the post mention anything about Kyle and Christian inventing something?


Lookup "original" and then say that again
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OP,

Look at the 🤡 above (👆) for an honest assessment of this soccer world. Prefers to argue linguistics more than the information given which is par for the course in this youth soccer world. This is why you can’t trust parents views on coaches and/clubs because people harbor vendetta’s for all kinds of silly reasons.

I came here to say the new podcast dropped today was interesting. NYFC sent 9 kids from a single team to MLS club academies so it shows me all of our local clubs have work to do. He also admitted that he can’t admit to a kid their true level. I think this is something we all need to think about.

I like the podcast because it “appears” they are two parents trying to navigate the process with no supplementary product to sell. I really like it now that a few DCUMers don’t like it because 95% of those on here are fixed-mindset, results-based, FOMO-laden characters straight out of White Lotus central casting. I really focus on doing the opposite of everything they are doing.
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Anonymous wrote:OP,

Look at the 🤡 above (👆) for an honest assessment of this soccer world. Prefers to argue linguistics more than the information given which is par for the course in this youth soccer world. This is why you can’t trust parents views on coaches and/clubs because people harbor vendetta’s for all kinds of silly reasons.

I came here to say the new podcast dropped today was interesting. NYFC sent 9 kids from a single team to MLS club academies so it shows me all of our local clubs have work to do. He also admitted that he can’t admit to a kid their true level. I think this is something we all need to think about.

I like the podcast because it “appears” they are two parents trying to navigate the process with no supplementary product to sell. I really like it now that a few DCUMers don’t like it because 95% of those on here are fixed-mindset, results-based, FOMO-laden characters straight out of White Lotus central casting. I really focus on doing the opposite of everything they are doing.


Blah blah blah said one 🤡 to another

It's not linguistics when the PP is pointing out the podcasters you're naming are 2 of thousands saying nothing new nor original.
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Anonymous wrote:OP,

Look at the 🤡 above (👆) for an honest assessment of this soccer world. Prefers to argue linguistics more than the information given which is par for the course in this youth soccer world. This is why you can’t trust parents views on coaches and/clubs because people harbor vendetta’s for all kinds of silly reasons.

I came here to say the new podcast dropped today was interesting. NYFC sent 9 kids from a single team to MLS club academies so it shows me all of our local clubs have work to do. He also admitted that he can’t admit to a kid their true level. I think this is something we all need to think about.

I like the podcast because it “appears” they are two parents trying to navigate the process with no supplementary product to sell. I really like it now that a few DCUMers don’t like it because 95% of those on here are fixed-mindset, results-based, FOMO-laden characters straight out of White Lotus central casting. I really focus on doing the opposite of everything they are doing.


Blah blah blah said one 🤡 to another

It's not linguistics when the PP is pointing out the podcasters you're naming are 2 of thousands saying nothing new nor original.


DP.... But it doesn't have to be new or original to ve informative. We all come to this thing with different experiences and knowledge. What is old news to some can be enlightening to someone else. I started down this travel soccer because my kid was scoring 5 or 6 goals a game in rec and the parent coach said he probably should be playing travel. I never have played one minute of soccer and never even really kicked around a soccer ball until he started playing . I came in knowing nothing about travel soccer. I thought paying 2k at the time and having professionally coaches was all that was needed to take him where he wanted to go soccerwise. I HAD no Clue. So any information is good info if youb dont know it regardless of source Even as crazy as this forum is there is good information here or there but nothing 'original' .
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Wow.. tried this....what an awful podcast. This sounds like a bunch of Dad's that have gone through a year or so of soccer with one mediocre player. Every parent I know has more soccer knowledge than these folks.
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Anonymous wrote:I think that some of the #TheProJourney episodes by Kyle Wilson were helpful (mainly the YouthSoccerPlaybook). I realized that my child and I focused on things early that would not really be that useful until later on, and the focus really should have been on dribbling and 1v1. Compared to other travel players, that is the main gap that we're still catching up on.


Kyle is annoying but the Youth Soccer Playbook is everything you need to know. I documented the steps and it is the blueprint we are still following. If you start late, you just have to adapt it but the principles remain the same when building a player.


So many top professionals took different routes, it paints a clear picture that the reality is different than the theories and there's no single playbook to fit all


Ok, if you really think you should follow-it like a checklist, you really need to loosen up. It can be boiled down to you should not be in travel soccer until you know the basics. Learn how to attack 1v1. Played small-sided as much as possible. Learn to juggle and develop a quality first touch.

People are running to False8 and Next Star hoping for them to fix their kid when they kid can’t keep the ball up 50x or do a basic body feint.

If you have a better playbook to use as a blueprint please share. Parents deserve to have something better than what these clubs are telling them as most of it is garbage.


LOL
There are no secrets left for what it takes to give yourself the opportunity to become a top level player

The information is out there and repeated five million times each day on social media etc

Most people are looking for the easy shortcut and magic pill playbook

The 1% succeed because they're willing to do what the 99% won't



There's no secrets, but there is a ton of conflicting information out there. For those who are unfamiliar with soccer or sports in general, having a simple sequence of areas to focus on can change the path and opportunities for that player. There are probably kids who want to have the chance to play different positions, but have been pidgeon-holed to playing the same position the entire time because they are too far behind in skills that should have been developed early.


Young kids not playing different positions is 100% a coaching problem


Not wrong on the coach having the child try different positions, but there are a lot of kids who only feel comfortable at one position because they their growth and focus was very narrow.


-That has been my kid. She is a fast winger... so she only plays as an outside, winger. She has been missing a ton of development by only playing that position. The Coach never switches her. Never switches her in practice. She should have been rotated in practices and in games to round out her skill set and develop her more. Unfortunately the coach is more interested in winning than developing kids. 100% Coaches should be rotating the kids around... instead we have 2 types of players on our team. The kids who get to play center mid, over and over, who get lots of touches and outside players who only see the ball half the time.

We have to work outside of practice to develop defensive and central player skills. So, yes if you are a parent and you only ever see your kid playing 1 position -especially an outside wing or outside back position, know your kid is considered a developmental cast off by the coach and their progress will be slower than the central players or players that get rotated around.


This was my daughter. She received offers to both ACC and a couple other schools. 3 of the 4 college coaches were recruiting her to a defender. A position she never played before. She was extremely successful in college.
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Anonymous wrote:I think that some of the #TheProJourney episodes by Kyle Wilson were helpful (mainly the YouthSoccerPlaybook). I realized that my child and I focused on things early that would not really be that useful until later on, and the focus really should have been on dribbling and 1v1. Compared to other travel players, that is the main gap that we're still catching up on.


Kyle is annoying but the Youth Soccer Playbook is everything you need to know. I documented the steps and it is the blueprint we are still following. If you start late, you just have to adapt it but the principles remain the same when building a player.


So many top professionals took different routes, it paints a clear picture that the reality is different than the theories and there's no single playbook to fit all


Ok, if you really think you should follow-it like a checklist, you really need to loosen up. It can be boiled down to you should not be in travel soccer until you know the basics. Learn how to attack 1v1. Played small-sided as much as possible. Learn to juggle and develop a quality first touch.

People are running to False8 and Next Star hoping for them to fix their kid when they kid can’t keep the ball up 50x or do a basic body feint.

If you have a better playbook to use as a blueprint please share. Parents deserve to have something better than what these clubs are telling them as most of it is garbage.


LOL
There are no secrets left for what it takes to give yourself the opportunity to become a top level player

The information is out there and repeated five million times each day on social media etc

Most people are looking for the easy shortcut and magic pill playbook

The 1% succeed because they're willing to do what the 99% won't



There's no secrets, but there is a ton of conflicting information out there. For those who are unfamiliar with soccer or sports in general, having a simple sequence of areas to focus on can change the path and opportunities for that player. There are probably kids who want to have the chance to play different positions, but have been pidgeon-holed to playing the same position the entire time because they are too far behind in skills that should have been developed early.


Young kids not playing different positions is 100% a coaching problem


Not wrong on the coach having the child try different positions, but there are a lot of kids who only feel comfortable at one position because they their growth and focus was very narrow.


-That has been my kid. She is a fast winger... so she only plays as an outside, winger. She has been missing a ton of development by only playing that position. The Coach never switches her. Never switches her in practice. She should have been rotated in practices and in games to round out her skill set and develop her more. Unfortunately the coach is more interested in winning than developing kids. 100% Coaches should be rotating the kids around... instead we have 2 types of players on our team. The kids who get to play center mid, over and over, who get lots of touches and outside players who only see the ball half the time.

We have to work outside of practice to develop defensive and central player skills. So, yes if you are a parent and you only ever see your kid playing 1 position -especially an outside wing or outside back position, know your kid is considered a developmental cast off by the coach and their progress will be slower than the central players or players that get rotated around.


This was my daughter. She received offers to both ACC and a couple other schools. 3 of the 4 college coaches were recruiting her to a defender. A position she never played before. She was extremely successful in college.


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Anonymous wrote:Wow.. tried this....what an awful podcast. This sounds like a bunch of Dad's that have gone through a year or so of soccer with one mediocre player. Every parent I know has more soccer knowledge than these folks.


The unfortunate thing about soccer is that everyone thinks they have knowledge and everyone with a keyboard, wifi, microphone tries to pass themselves off as an expert

People think they watch or played some soccer so that makes them an expert
Like flying a lot and thinking you can pilot a plane or you're an aeronautical scientist
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Anonymous wrote:Wow.. tried this....what an awful podcast. This sounds like a bunch of Dad's that have gone through a year or so of soccer with one mediocre player. Every parent I know has more soccer knowledge than these folks.


The unfortunate thing about soccer is that everyone thinks they have knowledge and everyone with a keyboard, wifi, microphone tries to pass themselves off as an expert

People think they watch or played some soccer so that makes them an expert
Like flying a lot and thinking you can pilot a plane or you're an aeronautical scientist


I don't think they are trying to come across as experts in the podcasts. They invite guests on who are and give their perspectives.
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Anonymous wrote:Wow.. tried this....what an awful podcast. This sounds like a bunch of Dad's that have gone through a year or so of soccer with one mediocre player. Every parent I know has more soccer knowledge than these folks.


The unfortunate thing about soccer is that everyone thinks they have knowledge and everyone with a keyboard, wifi, microphone tries to pass themselves off as an expert

People think they watch or played some soccer so that makes them an expert
Like flying a lot and thinking you can pilot a plane or you're an aeronautical scientist


I don't think they are trying to come across as experts in the podcasts. They invite guests on who are and give their perspectives.


Totally agree.
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Anonymous wrote:Wow.. tried this....what an awful podcast. This sounds like a bunch of Dad's that have gone through a year or so of soccer with one mediocre player. Every parent I know has more soccer knowledge than these folks.


The unfortunate thing about soccer is that everyone thinks they have knowledge and everyone with a keyboard, wifi, microphone tries to pass themselves off as an expert

People think they watch or played some soccer so that makes them an expert
Like flying a lot and thinking you can pilot a plane or you're an aeronautical scientist


I don't think they are trying to come across as experts in the podcasts. They invite guests on who are and give their perspectives.


Totally agree.


I like podcasts and interviews hosted by knowledgeable experienced soccer folks who bring on knowledgeable experienced guests

They pick relevant topics and ask the right questions and follow-ups
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Anonymous wrote:They are interesting but they are too soft towards the issues related to MLS franchises. To be honest with you, narratives from 3four3 were truly eye opening for me.


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