New PVS website design by a college intern?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are no design rules for websites! That's the beauty of websites. ADA rules are fine but this website fits not violate them. There is a program you can run to determine this or you can request an evaluation. This site is fine.

I have tried both on my phone and my computer and the website is easy to read and navigable. I think you just don't like change.

Agree. It needed a change. And I'm sure PVS will take suggestions into consideration through their linked comment form.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are no design rules for websites! That's the beauty of websites. ADA rules are fine but this website fits not violate them. There is a program you can run to determine this or you can request an evaluation. This site is fine.

I have tried both on my phone and my computer and the website is easy to read and navigable. I think you just don't like change.

Disability lawyer here. Please, please don’t spew inaccurate information. While the DOJ regulations are forthcoming, plaintiffs have succeeded in showing that corporate and commercial web sites violate ADA Title III by discriminating against people with disabilities because the information on the web site is not accessible to people with communication, visual, or auditory disabilities. Here are some articles for laypeople to understand the legal landscape. While the 4th Circuit has not ruled on the issue, no credible corporation would put out a web design like the new PVS site because it violates almost every universal design principle and arguably discriminates against people with visual and other disabilities. Further, the federal regulations mandating state and local government web site accessibility designs went into effect in the last several months, giving more fodder to the argument that inaccessible corporate web sites may discriminate against users with disabilities. Bottom line: Creating an accessible site is an ethical duty and (potentially) a legal duty that is easy to meet, so why PVS went backwards is a real head scratcher.

https://www.americanbar.org/groups/business_law/resources/business-law-today/2025-august/digital-accessibility-under-title-iii-ada/

https://www.ada.gov/resources/2024-03-08-web-rule/

[Anonymous]

The fact that people have gone this deep into their feelings about a swimming LSC website is absolutely wild.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The fact that people have gone this deep into their feelings about a swimming LSC website is absolutely wild.

Not really. It’s a slippery slope, and if we passively allow discrimination or inaccessibility to people with different communication, visual, or auditory needs simply because swimming is extracurricular, where do we draw the line? The line should always be accessibility.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The fact that people have gone this deep into their feelings about a swimming LSC website is absolutely wild.

Not really. It’s a slippery slope, and if we passively allow discrimination or inaccessibility to people with different communication, visual, or auditory needs simply because swimming is extracurricular, where do we draw the line? The line should always be accessibility.

+1000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The fact that people have gone this deep into their feelings about a swimming LSC website is absolutely wild.

+1000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The fact that people have gone this deep into their feelings about a swimming LSC website is absolutely wild.

+1000

Good to hear from you PVS webmaster.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So the new site is pretty bad and violates a number of design principles. Anyone know why? What is the story?

It is impossible to find anything on the site now which was always the strength of PVS before. It has the feel of a cheap scam site now.

Any chance the underlying swim system changed? There's a lot of private equity in youth sports right now, which has ABSOLUTELY captured the market for things like youth sports platforms. I do web stuff for a different sports org and every time our prior site provider gets bought out I have to try and figure out how to make a new website system work for our families without being horrible. I see it in other sports organizations all the time too. It really stinks for families, but it's not the webmaster or the organization's fault. It's the stupid PE firms buying good platforms and closing them down.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The fact that people have gone this deep into their feelings about a swimming LSC website is absolutely wild.

+1000

Good to hear from you PVS webmaster.

So original, everyone who thinks that it is absurd to have this many feelings abut a swimming LSC website must be the webmaster 🙄 And before someone starts yelling about the ADA, people were acting ridiculous about this website long before anyone mentioned the ADA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The fact that people have gone this deep into their feelings about a swimming LSC website is absolutely wild.

Not really. It’s a slippery slope, and if we passively allow discrimination or inaccessibility to people with different communication, visual, or auditory needs simply because swimming is extracurricular, where do we draw the line? The line should always be accessibility.

They are red/green times not red/ white

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are no design rules for websites! That's the beauty of websites. ADA rules are fine but this website fits not violate them. There is a program you can run to determine this or you can request an evaluation. This site is fine.

I have tried both on my phone and my computer and the website is easy to read and navigable. I think you just don't like change.

Disability lawyer here. Please, please don’t spew inaccurate information. While the DOJ regulations are forthcoming, plaintiffs have succeeded in showing that corporate and commercial web sites violate ADA Title III by discriminating against people with disabilities because the information on the web site is not accessible to people with communication, visual, or auditory disabilities. Here are some articles for laypeople to understand the legal landscape. While the 4th Circuit has not ruled on the issue, no credible corporation would put out a web design like the new PVS site because it violates almost every universal design principle and arguably discriminates against people with visual and other disabilities. Further, the federal regulations mandating state and local government web site accessibility designs went into effect in the last several months, giving more fodder to the argument that inaccessible corporate web sites may discriminate against users with disabilities. Bottom line: Creating an accessible site is an ethical duty and (potentially) a legal duty that is easy to meet, so why PVS went backwards is a real head scratcher.

https://www.americanbar.org/groups/business_law/resources/business-law-today/2025-august/digital-accessibility-under-title-iii-ada/

https://www.ada.gov/resources/2024-03-08-web-rule/

ADA Lawyer here... the website fits the rules and recommendations.

[Anonymous]

Regardless if it’s ada compliant, it’s terribly designed.

[Anonymous]

The new site actually makes me happy that SC season is at an end and LC season is short. I can take a break from having to use it.

They could have made improvements to the old site, sadly this is not that.

[Anonymous]

Also a silly pet peeve - but most of the clubs link their events to the meet announcements and since they made the change every one of those links are broken and giving a 404 error.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The new site actually makes me happy that SC season is at an end and LC season is short. I can take a break from having to use it.

They could have made improvements to the old site, sadly this is not that.

If the PVS website is what makes you glad that SC is over and that the overall season is almost over that’s a you problem that maybe you should work on.