“Men’s rights activism”

[Anonymous]

I don't think OP has come back.

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Anonymous wrote:Men’s rights is just a less socially accepted version of feminism. You have some very extreme people just like with feminism but not everyone’s like that. There are legit issues facing men that have been made worse over the past 40-50 years. For example, education. It’s overwhelmingly female which can lead to men not having a positive role model if they aren’t getting it at home. And also in the education system, female teachers tend to be a bit biased against boys in favor of the girls.

Except to buy this you have to accept the premise that men lack certain rights and need to fight for them. They don’t.

They have problems but they totally mis-identify what they are

I would point to issues like
Sperm counts dropping every year
Kids are fatter every year and some of them complete puberty with hypogonadism, which is irreversible
Prisons are torture chambers and make no effort to re-habilitate people or give mental health treatment. A black man with schizophrena died from being eaten by bud bugs while in prison a few years ago
Education sucks, more boys are graduating functionally illiterate and ill equipped to support themselves financially
Corn and video games are frying vulnerable young male brains

All of these issues aside from sperm count are across gender.

It's all inter-related because we all live together

I had to undergo egg harvesting (IVF) because of my husband's azoospermia which resulted in 2 C-sections with complications

[Anonymous]

Women have a plethora of problems and some are self inflicted, others by other women but men are the cause of most of their problems. However, that's doesn't mean men have no problems at all, they do and most of those are caused by other men but some by women as well.

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Anonymous wrote:Women have a plethora of problems and some are self inflicted, others by other women but men are the cause of most of their problems. However, that's doesn't mean men have no problems at all, they do and most of those are caused by other men but some by women as well.

I agree and why I would shut this s--t down with debate.

Telling him its naughty would just make him do it even more and confirm his conspiracy theory about the matrix.

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Anonymous wrote:Men’s rights is just a less socially accepted version of feminism. You have some very extreme people just like with feminism but not everyone’s like that. There are legit issues facing men that have been made worse over the past 40-50 years. For example, education. It’s overwhelmingly female which can lead to men not having a positive role model if they aren’t getting it at home. And also in the education system, female teachers tend to be a bit biased against boys in favor of the girls.

Except to buy this you have to accept the premise that men lack certain rights and need to fight for them. They don’t.

And what rights do women lack in 2026 in the US?

Let's see. Bodily autonomy. Sexual assault is the least convicted violent crime.
Women (and children) are systemically abused. The hospital where I gave birth had an anesthesiologist SAing women while they were in surgery. The hospital disappeared 5 complaints and he wasn't dealt with until one of the women went to the police.
Women have immense unpaid caregiving shoved on them. My son's teacher works all day then does unpaid overnight care for her mom with dementia and a hip replacement
There are wild new forms of SA thanks to drugs and social media
Men have fried their brains watching corn and treat women like meat puppets
Infecting people with STDs is being criminalized. Women are more susceptible to STDs because of anatomy
Contrary to popular opinion, the rate of alimony being paid out has steadily declined from the 1960s
Being a custodial caregiver for kids is a risk for old age poverty in women but not men
Divorce is a risk factor for old age poverty for women but not for men
1/3 of child support paid in full, on time, 1/3 late, 1/3 not at all
50/50 expenses is an absolute scam because women still do the lion's share of child care and house work. It also causes the household to be doubly exposed to job loss and increases long term financial problems
Married men steal 30-60 minutes of leisure time from their wives and that is before kids
Abortion rights being marched back
Women are getting a laptop on wheels wheeled into their L+D room and being forced with emergency judge court order to get C-section against their consent (i.e. assault)
Marital rape is still defacto legal. It is almost impossible to get police to charge your husband. It is a statistical zero

I could go on for hours

Besides the first one, the rest aren’t even rights violations those are societal/personal issues. When we’re talking about bodily autonomy maybe we should also talk about circumcision as well. Why do we think it’s okay to mutilate men’s genitalia when they’re too young to consent to it? It’s also a medically unnecessary procedure 99% of the time.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Men’s rights is just a less socially accepted version of feminism. You have some very extreme people just like with feminism but not everyone’s like that. There are legit issues facing men that have been made worse over the past 40-50 years. For example, education. It’s overwhelmingly female which can lead to men not having a positive role model if they aren’t getting it at home. And also in the education system, female teachers tend to be a bit biased against boys in favor of the girls.

Except to buy this you have to accept the premise that men lack certain rights and need to fight for them. They don’t.

And what rights do women lack in 2026 in the US?

Let's see. Bodily autonomy. Sexual assault is the least convicted violent crime.
Women (and children) are systemically abused. The hospital where I gave birth had an anesthesiologist SAing women while they were in surgery. The hospital disappeared 5 complaints and he wasn't dealt with until one of the women went to the police.
Women have immense unpaid caregiving shoved on them. My son's teacher works all day then does unpaid overnight care for her mom with dementia and a hip replacement
There are wild new forms of SA thanks to drugs and social media
Men have fried their brains watching corn and treat women like meat puppets
Infecting people with STDs is being criminalized. Women are more susceptible to STDs because of anatomy
Contrary to popular opinion, the rate of alimony being paid out has steadily declined from the 1960s
Being a custodial caregiver for kids is a risk for old age poverty in women but not men
Divorce is a risk factor for old age poverty for women but not for men
1/3 of child support paid in full, on time, 1/3 late, 1/3 not at all
50/50 expenses is an absolute scam because women still do the lion's share of child care and house work. It also causes the household to be doubly exposed to job loss and increases long term financial problems
Married men steal 30-60 minutes of leisure time from their wives and that is before kids
Abortion rights being marched back
Women are getting a laptop on wheels wheeled into their L+D room and being forced with emergency judge court order to get C-section against their consent (i.e. assault)
Marital rape is still defacto legal. It is almost impossible to get police to charge your husband. It is a statistical zero

I could go on for hours

Besides the first one, the rest aren’t even rights violations those are societal/personal issues. When we’re talking about bodily autonomy maybe we should also talk about circumcision as well. Why do we think it’s okay to mutilate men’s genitalia when they’re too young to consent to it? It’s also a medically unnecessary procedure 99% of the time.

Disagree. I don't think women being punished with old age poverty for being a mom or getting a divorce or being tortured with sleep deprivation is only a societal issue. Women are not treated as human beings and that is a human rights issue. Police and institutions turning a blind eye to SA against women and kids is definitely a human rights issue. What is the point of a right on paper if it is never enforced?

I am with you on circumcision. In fact, I think it is the original sin that normalizes tons of other abusive practises in medicine. Circumcisions became mainstreamed when OBs made layperson midwifery illegal which is a direct and obvious assault on a woman's right not to be medicalized while giving birth

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Anonymous wrote:Men’s rights is just a less socially accepted version of feminism. You have some very extreme people just like with feminism but not everyone’s like that. There are legit issues facing men that have been made worse over the past 40-50 years. For example, education. It’s overwhelmingly female which can lead to men not having a positive role model if they aren’t getting it at home. And also in the education system, female teachers tend to be a bit biased against boys in favor of the girls.

Often because men leave the home in search of freedom and because men dont want a low paycheck. I think teachers have always been low paid. It's just that people didn't used to go to school for so long. Many great men spent very little time with their children.

[Anonymous]

Also patriarchy wants men further away from children, not closer to them. It also doesn't support men going into teaching.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Men’s rights is just a less socially accepted version of feminism. You have some very extreme people just like with feminism but not everyone’s like that. There are legit issues facing men that have been made worse over the past 40-50 years. For example, education. It’s overwhelmingly female which can lead to men not having a positive role model if they aren’t getting it at home. And also in the education system, female teachers tend to be a bit biased against boys in favor of the girls.

It’s the opposite.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Men’s rights is just a less socially accepted version of feminism. You have some very extreme people just like with feminism but not everyone’s like that. There are legit issues facing men that have been made worse over the past 40-50 years. For example, education. It’s overwhelmingly female which can lead to men not having a positive role model if they aren’t getting it at home. And also in the education system, female teachers tend to be a bit biased against boys in favor of the girls.

I respect the roots of this movement. It began because men were screwed wrt rights to their children after divorce. The sexism in the family court system was deeply entrenched and often men had an impossible task maintaining relationships with their children post divorce.

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Anonymous wrote:What's wrong with Men's rights activism? We got everything else going on too - women's rights, minority rights, animal rights, environment,...etc. Let him be.

There is nothing "wrong" with it. Though I question the necessity. It's the "how" of the manosphere. They are disrespectful, misogynistic, and hateful, ftmp. And lbh, they're just playing victim b/c they now have to share opportunities. That's not opression.

Everybody has an opinion and everyone questions someone else's motives. What else is new?

Fair. But it is also fair that "men's rights" is often just code for "them not getting to do whatever the F they want as they have since the beginning of time." OBJECTIVELY, men are not nearly as disadvantaged as women or POC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My 22 year old son has joined a couple groups and is now a “men’s rights activist”. He’s an adult, I cannot change his beliefs, but I’m not sure how to deal with the constant talk about men’s rights when he’s at home around family or on the phone. Is there anything that I should do? I also have have 18 and 17 year old sons to worry about.

[Anonymous]

Pretty lame skit.

Op, ask what groups he joined specifically?

Or was the OP just a troll?

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Anonymous wrote:Men's rights activists can be about improving life for men vs attacking him. Have him focus on work place safety, men's mental health, men's rights in family court, men as advocates for their own health (prostate checks, going to the doctor), support for men who are abused or in toxic, unhealthy relationships, men's suicide prevention, men and education, men's substnace use and risk taking etc.

See if you can engage him in those kinds of topics where he can advocate and support men in ways that needed and necessary.

This. If he is saying stuff like "women shouldn't vote" you can ask him how that would improve any of these issues.

Voting is fake and doesn't do anything. I would give up my vote to not have to pay taxes in heart beat.

Debate him.

Debate his how he got his beliefs. The opposing beliefs require censorship.

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Anonymous wrote:Men’s rights is just a less socially accepted version of feminism. You have some very extreme people just like with feminism but not everyone’s like that. There are legit issues facing men that have been made worse over the past 40-50 years. For example, education. It’s overwhelmingly female which can lead to men not having a positive role model if they aren’t getting it at home. And also in the education system, female teachers tend to be a bit biased against boys in favor of the girls.

It’s the opposite.

Most people have no idea how biased the system is against boys. They don't know the studies that show boys' grades improve with blind grading. They don't know how IQs are distributed differently between men and women and how the distribution should affect college admissions.

The sad truth is pro-feminist arguments tend to devolve into trying to shame men from noticing such things instead of pointing to tangible benefits of feminist policies.