“Men’s rights activism”

[Anonymous]

My 22 year old son has joined a couple groups and is now a “men’s rights activist”. He’s an adult, I cannot change his beliefs, but I’m not sure how to deal with the constant talk about men’s rights when he’s at home around family or on the phone. Is there anything that I should do? I also have have 18 and 17 year old sons to worry about.

[Anonymous]

He's in the manosphere, treat it like any other cult.

[Anonymous]

I think it wouldn't be terrible to have discussions with him and acknowledge some of the stuff they like to bring up (like men having a higher suicide rate and dying earlier) while pushing back on crazier/anti-woman stuff. If parents agree with some of it, it makes it less edgy and cool.

[Anonymous]

Today's 1A was all about this this morning...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think it wouldn't be terrible to have discussions with him and acknowledge some of the stuff they like to bring up (like men having a higher suicide rate and dying earlier) while pushing back on crazier/anti-woman stuff. If parents agree with some of it, it makes it less edgy and cool.

Turns out that narrow, rigid, toxic ideas about gender and masculinity aren't good for men, either. Who knew?

[Anonymous]

“I think we’re going to have to agree to disagree on this, Larlo. Please pass the salt.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:“I think we’re going to have to agree to disagree on this, Larlo. Please pass the salt.”

You eat salt?

[Anonymous]

I mean you raised him. Engage with him and inform him. Have the conversations.

If he doesn't want to abide by house rules... he moves out.

If you don't want to do that... well, then I see how he ended up that way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:“I think we’re going to have to agree to disagree on this, Larlo. Please pass the salt.”

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think it wouldn't be terrible to have discussions with him and acknowledge some of the stuff they like to bring up (like men having a higher suicide rate and dying earlier) while pushing back on crazier/anti-woman stuff. If parents agree with some of it, it makes it less edgy and cool.

It does go way beyond that, and is things like “women are xxx, and men should be able to xxx”.

[Anonymous]

I’d hate to think what websites he’s on. Is he MAGA?

[Anonymous]

Men's rights activists can be about improving life for men vs attacking him. Have him focus on work place safety, men's mental health, men's rights in family court, men as advocates for their own health (prostate checks, going to the doctor), support for men who are abused or in toxic, unhealthy relationships, men's suicide prevention, men and education, men's substnace use and risk taking etc.

See if you can engage him in those kinds of topics where he can advocate and support men in ways that needed and necessary.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Men's rights activists can be about improving life for men vs attacking him. Have him focus on work place safety, men's mental health, men's rights in family court, men as advocates for their own health (prostate checks, going to the doctor), support for men who are abused or in toxic, unhealthy relationships, men's suicide prevention, men and education, men's substnace use and risk taking etc.

See if you can engage him in those kinds of topics where he can advocate and support men in ways that needed and necessary.

I agree - you'd be giving him an out in which he can work towards a good cause but detach from the misogyny.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Men's rights activists can be about improving life for men vs attacking him. Have him focus on work place safety, men's mental health, men's rights in family court, men as advocates for their own health (prostate checks, going to the doctor), support for men who are abused or in toxic, unhealthy relationships, men's suicide prevention, men and education, men's substnace use and risk taking etc.

See if you can engage him in those kinds of topics where he can advocate and support men in ways that needed and necessary.

This. If he is saying stuff like "women shouldn't vote" you can ask him how that would improve any of these issues.

[Anonymous]

Is he failing in life? That seems why most men join men’s’ rights groups.