LAC leadership

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Kids applying to Davidson, Holy Cross, and Colgate want the academic/sports pre-Professional vibe. Yes, step down from Williams but the NESCAC is Div 3. Holy Cross was smart to hire a non-Jesuit and they have momentum. HC is in the quiet phase of capital campaign imagine it will be north of a $billion. Colgate is struggling with applications down 3,000 last cycle and freezing cold remote upstate NY is a negstive. Shocked about Davidson’s restrictive religion Presbyterian litmus test.

HC booster just stop. HC is a great school but please keep it real. Your desperate boosting hurts your case.

HC isn't a superior path to the boardroom or the C-suite. Their numbers are a small fraction of that of the top NESCAC schools and less than half of that of your Patriot League rival Colgate.

HC is poor relative to their NESCAC counterparts with an endowment per student which is a fraction of most NESCAC schools.

HC has a good athletics program within the Patriot League but outside of Football and Basketball the top NESCAC schools are competitive with many Patriot League schools.

HC receives less than half of the applications that Colgate receives even though it has a similar population.

[Anonymous]

HC dominates every LAC excluding Williams in Csuite placement and boardrooms. Midd. And Colgate might do better on Wall Street. As far as applications the trend is upwards for HC and recently down for Midd and Colgate. Holy Cross coasted for several years but their new President and admissions teams are hitting homeruns. Kids like sports and things to do culturally on weekends with Boston 1 hour away and Worcester’s rebirth. Sure beats going 15 miles to the Walmart which is a big problem for Hamilton, Colgate, Midd, Bates, Bowdoin, Colby, and Bucknell. HC mops the floor with Div 3 NESCAC in football, basketball, hockey, lacrosse and baseball. Tennis team recently beat Trinity but HC men’s rowing is consistently top 25. NESCACs would best HC in fencing, squash, and water polo. It’s endowment per student would be below Colby and Midd but Holy Crosd is beginning a large Capital Campaign. Williams, Amherst, and Bowdoin have the cache and $3-4 billion endowment to fight off rural locations. The rest of the NESCACs don’t. Kids want to be near civilization and HC is only Top LAC close to Boston not named Wellesley College. Holy Cross women basketball plays Michigan on ESPN this week snd baseball made it in NCAAs last spring it’s football team plays at Northwestern and Navy and lastly it is the oldest non Ivy rival over 130 years with Harvard, Yale, Dartmouth and Brown. The Crusaders are moving in the right direction but yes not Williams/Amherst.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:HC dominates every LAC excluding Williams in Csuite placement and boardrooms. Midd. And Colgate might do better on Wall Street. As far as applications the trend is upwards for HC and recently down for Midd and Colgate. Holy Cross coasted for several years but their new President and admissions teams are hitting homeruns. Kids like sports and things to do culturally on weekends with Boston 1 hour away and Worcester’s rebirth. Sure beats going 15 miles to the Walmart which is a big problem for Hamilton, Colgate, Midd, Bates, Bowdoin, Colby, and Bucknell. HC mops the floor with Div 3 NESCAC in football, basketball, hockey, lacrosse and baseball. Tennis team recently beat Trinity but HC men’s rowing is consistently top 25. NESCACs would best HC in fencing, squash, and water polo. It’s endowment per student would be below Colby and Midd but Holy Crosd is beginning a large Capital Campaign. Williams, Amherst, and Bowdoin have the cache and $3-4 billion endowment to fight off rural locations. The rest of the NESCACs don’t. Kids want to be near civilization and HC is only Top LAC close to Boston not named Wellesley College. Holy Cross women basketball plays Michigan on ESPN this week snd baseball made it in NCAAs last spring it’s football team plays at Northwestern and Navy and lastly it is the oldest non Ivy rival over 130 years with Harvard, Yale, Dartmouth and Brown. The Crusaders are moving in the right direction but yes not Williams/Amherst.

You are delusional.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:HC dominates every LAC excluding Williams in Csuite placement and boardrooms. Midd. And Colgate might do better on Wall Street. As far as applications the trend is upwards for HC and recently down for Midd and Colgate. Holy Cross coasted for several years but their new President and admissions teams are hitting homeruns. Kids like sports and things to do culturally on weekends with Boston 1 hour away and Worcester’s rebirth. Sure beats going 15 miles to the Walmart which is a big problem for Hamilton, Colgate, Midd, Bates, Bowdoin, Colby, and Bucknell. HC mops the floor with Div 3 NESCAC in football, basketball, hockey, lacrosse and baseball. Tennis team recently beat Trinity but HC men’s rowing is consistently top 25. NESCACs would best HC in fencing, squash, and water polo. It’s endowment per student would be below Colby and Midd but Holy Crosd is beginning a large Capital Campaign. Williams, Amherst, and Bowdoin have the cache and $3-4 billion endowment to fight off rural locations. The rest of the NESCACs don’t. Kids want to be near civilization and HC is only Top LAC close to Boston not named Wellesley College. Holy Cross women basketball plays Michigan on ESPN this week snd baseball made it in NCAAs last spring it’s football team plays at Northwestern and Navy and lastly it is the oldest non Ivy rival over 130 years with Harvard, Yale, Dartmouth and Brown. The Crusaders are moving in the right direction but yes not Williams/Amherst.

https://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator/?q=Holy+cross&s=all&id=166124#admsns

SAT-CR: 630-710
SAT-M: 610-700
ACT: 27-32

And that's with only 30% submitting the SAT and 15% submitting the ACT.

Perfectly respectable numbers, but the comparisons to Williams or even Colgate are ridiculous. That academic profile is more in line with Conn College and Gettysburg.

[Anonymous]

LOL, there are 3 exclusive clubs in the US. The US Supreme Court, the US Senate, and Augusta National. Holy Cross has at least 1 graduate at all three. Goose Eggs for the NESCAC and good old Colgate. To its credit, Colgate counts Andy Rooney as a famous alum. Btw, the endowments of Holy Cross and Colgate are almost identical Gate midway through a campaign and HC just starting. HC outcomes blow away any school not named Williams.

[Anonymous]

^Holy Cross wins the Triple Crown! No Williams grad on the Supreme Court.🇮🇪😃

[Anonymous]

Can’t find any NESCAC grads at Augusta either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Alison Byerly at Carleton seems to be a strong and dedicated leader who goes the extra mile to connect with students.

I’ve also been impressed with interviews I’ve heard with Roth from Wesleyan.

Yes, very happy with Byerly’s leadership on campus at Carleton as well as in public forums.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:LOL, there are 3 exclusive clubs in the US. The US Supreme Court, the US Senate, and Augusta National. Holy Cross has at least 1 graduate at all three. Goose Eggs for the NESCAC and good old Colgate. To its credit, Colgate counts Andy Rooney as a famous alum. Btw, the endowments of Holy Cross and Colgate are almost identical Gate midway through a campaign and HC just starting. HC outcomes blow away any school not named Williams.

Get help

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:LOL, there are 3 exclusive clubs in the US. The US Supreme Court, the US Senate, and Augusta National. Holy Cross has at least 1 graduate at all three. Goose Eggs for the NESCAC and good old Colgate. To its credit, Colgate counts Andy Rooney as a famous alum. Btw, the endowments of Holy Cross and Colgate are almost identical Gate midway through a campaign and HC just starting. HC outcomes blow away any school not named Williams.

Not entirely true. Senator Coons is an Amherst grad.

[Anonymous]

Willing to bet that Coons isn’t a member of Augusta same for Chris Murphy Williams grad. Reading comprehension, guess only Harvard would be a member of the HC trifecta assuming membership committee at Augusta could find a Republican Harvard grad that plays golf.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For those dumping on Davidson, there is always Vassar, Wesleyan and Oberlin. No thanks.

Those dumping on Davidson are idiots. That said all of the schools that you mentioned are excellent schools and anyone dumping on them is also an idiot.

You know not all schools appeal to all kids, right? So all the kids who didn't feel Davidson was a fit for them are idiots?

This attitude really doesn't make Davidson any more appealing, makes me glad my kid moved on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Kids applying to Davidson, Holy Cross, and Colgate want the academic/sports pre-Professional vibe. Yes, step down from Williams but the NESCAC is Div 3. Holy Cross was smart to hire a non-Jesuit and they have momentum. HC is in the quiet phase of capital campaign imagine it will be north of a $billion. Colgate is struggling with applications down 3,000 last cycle and freezing cold remote upstate NY is a negstive. Shocked about Davidson’s restrctive religion Presbyterian litmus test.

I generally find the “this school is way better than that school” arguments to be distasteful, especially when someone thinks Williams is just vastly superior to every other LAC. That said, the suggestion that the pecking order goes Williams>HC>rest of NESCAC>Colgate, etc. made me do a spit take. Don’t care how many HC alums are in C Suites. What an asinine way to evaluate a college. Wesleyan, for example, has produced Lin Manuel Miranda, Mike White, and Bill Belichick (among literally dozens of other wildly alums that are leaders in their fields.). How does that factor into your absurd three club test? HC is maybe the fourth or fifth most popular Catholic school. Its popularity will always be diminished im comparison nondenominational options. HC has to fight for ND, BC, and Georgetown’s leavings which is why its CDS data looks more like the bottom of the NESCAC than any of the top 8 or so. No shame in that but facts are facts. Take a seat with the Bucknell booster and ice up.

[Anonymous]

Sure Davidson will survive.

[Anonymous]

Not sure Belichick is a role model for Wesleyan. He does like young talent.