Air superiority =/= Controlling a country

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You should call up the pentagon and let them know. I’m sure they didn’t think of any of this while having a plan they’ve constantly updated over the last couple of decades.

The Pentagon was strongly opposed to this action, except for the gang of drunkard Interlopers installed at the top.
Nothing Trump does has a "plan" except for short term jockeying for an advantage or money to pocket. It has "concepts of a plan".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:***To this day Israel has yet been able to effectuate regime change in Gaza, a small region it borders that it starved and Genocided.***

Whats the chance it is sucessful at regime change on a country with 90M, full of mountain, a half a continent away, with a population that has a will to fight, and some tech. superiority.

Our leaders are insane and have a false sense of superiority and power.

+1 (and maybe Jeff can attest that I am not one of the anti-Israel anti-Zionist posters - quite the opposite). Certainly this action raises certain costs for Iran but the idea that we brought the country completely to its knees in a day is just funny if not so sad.

Maybe this is the time to again tell the story about the early 2000s when I met one of the 20-something Bush appointees who was headed to Iraq to work for the state departmen, a Fed Soc type lawyer with zero experience. I asked him what he was going to do in Iraq and he said “advise them on developing the rule of law so they can transition to democracy.” I asked “oh really, how does one do that!” And he said “Well, I will teach them about Marbury v Madison.” Me “….”

I don't see what's wrong with that? Your friend was the only person involved in democratization. He has had one small role.

How did it turn out, dear? How does it work when you arrogantly parachute into a country with no understanding of their history or their culture and try to teach them how to live?

There seems to be a big failure of imagination here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump doesn't want regime change.

He wants bribes from the leaders of the country who control its resources. That's all.

It doesn't matter what Trump does or does not want. It has been clearly established that he is compromised and controlled by Israeli supporters that do want regime change and have been gunning for it for over 30 years.

Regime "change" is a 2 ended arrow. Changing the "from" doesn't control the "to".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:***To this day Israel has yet been able to effectuate regime change in Gaza, a small region it borders that it starved and Genocided.***

Whats the chance it is sucessful at regime change on a country with 90M, full of mountain, a half a continent away, with a population that has a will to fight, and some tech. superiority.

Our leaders are insane and have a false sense of superiority and power.

These people aren't our leaders. They are our hijackers

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:***To this day Israel has yet been able to effectuate regime change in Gaza, a small region it borders that it starved and Genocided.***

Whats the chance it is sucessful at regime change on a country with 90M, full of mountain, a half a continent away, with a population that has a will to fight, and some tech. superiority.

Our leaders are insane and have a false sense of superiority and power.

+1 (and maybe Jeff can attest that I am not one of the anti-Israel anti-Zionist posters - quite the opposite). Certainly this action raises certain costs for Iran but the idea that we brought the country completely to its knees in a day is just funny if not so sad.

Maybe this is the time to again tell the story about the early 2000s when I met one of the 20-something Bush appointees who was headed to Iraq to work for the state departmen, a Fed Soc type lawyer with zero experience. I asked him what he was going to do in Iraq and he said “advise them on developing the rule of law so they can transition to democracy.” I asked “oh really, how does one do that!” And he said “Well, I will teach them about Marbury v Madison.” Me “….”

I don't see what's wrong with that? Your friend was the only person involved in democratization. He has had one small role.

I mean, nothing wrong with that on the micro scale. But on the macro scale was an astonishing Wizard of Oz moment for me to understand how unbelievably dumb our foreign policy was as that time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:***To this day Israel has yet been able to effectuate regime change in Gaza, a small region it borders that it starved and Genocided.***

Whats the chance it is sucessful at regime change on a country with 90M, full of mountain, a half a continent away, with a population that has a will to fight, and some tech. superiority.

Our leaders are insane and have a false sense of superiority and power.

+1 (and maybe Jeff can attest that I am not one of the anti-Israel anti-Zionist posters - quite the opposite). Certainly this action raises certain costs for Iran but the idea that we brought the country completely to its knees in a day is just funny if not so sad.

Maybe this is the time to again tell the story about the early 2000s when I met one of the 20-something Bush appointees who was headed to Iraq to work for the state departmen, a Fed Soc type lawyer with zero experience. I asked him what he was going to do in Iraq and he said “advise them on developing the rule of law so they can transition to democracy.” I asked “oh really, how does one do that!” And he said “Well, I will teach them about Marbury v Madison.” Me “….”

I don't see what's wrong with that? Your friend was the only person involved in democratization. He has had one small role.

I mean, nothing wrong with that on the micro scale. But on the macro scale was an astonishing Wizard of Oz moment for me to understand how unbelievably dumb our foreign policy was as that time.

As dumb as it was, it was a million times smarter than the current yahoos. At least Bush and co realized they had to do something beyond killing the current leadership even if their plan doesn’t doing that was terrible. Trump and his goons think they can just kill off the top Iranian leaders and magically a pro-US government will arise from the ashes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:***To this day Israel has yet been able to effectuate regime change in Gaza, a small region it borders that it starved and Genocided.***

Whats the chance it is sucessful at regime change on a country with 90M, full of mountain, a half a continent away, with a population that has a will to fight, and some tech. superiority.

Our leaders are insane and have a false sense of superiority and power.

+1 (and maybe Jeff can attest that I am not one of the anti-Israel anti-Zionist posters - quite the opposite). Certainly this action raises certain costs for Iran but the idea that we brought the country completely to its knees in a day is just funny if not so sad.

Maybe this is the time to again tell the story about the early 2000s when I met one of the 20-something Bush appointees who was headed to Iraq to work for the state departmen, a Fed Soc type lawyer with zero experience. I asked him what he was going to do in Iraq and he said “advise them on developing the rule of law so they can transition to democracy.” I asked “oh really, how does one do that!” And he said “Well, I will teach them about Marbury v Madison.” Me “….”

I don't see what's wrong with that? Your friend was the only person involved in democratization. He has had one small role.

I mean, nothing wrong with that on the micro scale. But on the macro scale was an astonishing Wizard of Oz moment for me to understand how unbelievably dumb our foreign policy was as that time.

As dumb as it was, it was a million times smarter than the current yahoos. At least Bush and co realized they had to do something beyond killing the current leadership even if their plan doesn’t doing that was terrible. Trump and his goons think they can just kill off the top Iranian leaders and magically a pro-US government will arise from the ashes.

Sad but true. I wish I stayed in touch with that Fed Soc lawyer to see how it went and what he thinks now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump doesn't want regime change.

He wants bribes from the leaders of the country who control its resources. That's all.

Got it all figured out, eh?

the one throughline with Trump is money going into his pocket

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:***To this day Israel has yet been able to effectuate regime change in Gaza, a small region it borders that it starved and Genocided.***

Whats the chance it is sucessful at regime change on a country with 90M, full of mountain, a half a continent away, with a population that has a will to fight, and some tech. superiority.

Our leaders are insane and have a false sense of superiority and power.

+1 (and maybe Jeff can attest that I am not one of the anti-Israel anti-Zionist posters - quite the opposite). Certainly this action raises certain costs for Iran but the idea that we brought the country completely to its knees in a day is just funny if not so sad.

Maybe this is the time to again tell the story about the early 2000s when I met one of the 20-something Bush appointees who was headed to Iraq to work for the state departmen, a Fed Soc type lawyer with zero experience. I asked him what he was going to do in Iraq and he said “advise them on developing the rule of law so they can transition to democracy.” I asked “oh really, how does one do that!” And he said “Well, I will teach them about Marbury v Madison.” Me “….”

are you kidding me??

look, I know you're not. being anti-choice was a screening question. but still.

[Anonymous]

He is totally delusional: