Georgetown Disappointment

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Our son applied with a 4.1 from a close in difficult HS, mid 1300s on SAT and two varsity sports.

-He was born there.
-His mother attended undergrad and grad school there.
-My father attended undergrad and law school there.
-My FIL taught there for 26 years
-I worked there from 1996-2004
-My family and my wife's family have been making annual donations since June of 1966.

Not only was he rejected, but we didn't even get so much as an acknowledgement that they turned down a 5 degree legacy.

F&&k Georgetown. Not only will they never see another dime from any of us, but I will openly disparage them at any opportunity.

Surprising, given legacy. However, his scores are very very low for Georgetown. Did you try test prep?? And if that is a 4.1 weighted gpa that is also very low. Nobody with stats that low gets in from our HS. It’s really become uber competitive.

My kid had a 36 ACT, no legacy, uw 4.0 and got in. I don’t think legacy with stats below the average should be accepted. Legacy works when you are in the same ballpark - not when you are well below the average.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our son applied with a 4.1 from a close in difficult HS, mid 1300s on SAT and two varsity sports.

-He was born there.
-His mother attended undergrad and grad school there.
-My father attended undergrad and law school there.
-My FIL taught there for 26 years
-I worked there from 1996-2004
-My family and my wife's family have been making annual donations since June of 1966.

Not only was he rejected, but we didn't even get so much as an acknowledgement that they turned down a 5 degree legacy.

F&&k Georgetown. Not only will they never see another dime from any of us, but I will openly disparage them at any opportunity.

Okay but it's irrational not to concede his stats were not at all competitive. Legacy doesn't give THAT much of a boost. You should have spent some of that money on SAT tutors.

If you think there werent any kids in this years admissions that scored in the 1300s then you are a fool, simply put.

I think anyone is a fool who thinks a kid with a 1300 is going to get in without top-tier connections or *very* substantial donations, none of which applied in this case.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s a very nice school for a bright pre-professional kid. Hyper intellectual kids or people who want academic careers would do better at an Ivy, top LAC, or even a flagship state university.

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Thanks, PP. By pre-professional does that mean- definitely wants to go to law school or medical school? I guess my kid would qualify as hyper intellectual, and is going to major in something pretty obscure/academic, but he’s also a striver/climber and I have a feeling he will end up as a lawyer. I can’t decide whether to steer him to a smaller, DC-hooked up place like Georgetown, or to a big research university. He’s gotten into both, and is still undecided. Basically- what I’m asking is, what is a “preprofessional” vibe and do students ever end up leaning that way just because the school is? If you think you might want to go to law school, is it better to be at place like Georgetown or a place like UMD?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Our son applied with a 4.1 from a close in difficult HS, mid 1300s on SAT and two varsity sports.

-He was born there.
-His mother attended undergrad and grad school there.
-My father attended undergrad and law school there.
-My FIL taught there for 26 years
-I worked there from 1996-2004
-My family and my wife's family have been making annual donations since June of 1966.

Not only was he rejected, but we didn't even get so much as an acknowledgement that they turned down a 5 degree legacy.

F&&k Georgetown. Not only will they never see another dime from any of us, but I will openly disparage them at any opportunity.

Okay but it's irrational not to concede his stats were not at all competitive. Legacy doesn't give THAT much of a boost. You should have spent some of that money on SAT tutors.

If you think there werent any kids in this years admissions that scored in the 1300s then you are a fool, simply put.

I think anyone is a fool who thinks a kid with a 1300 is going to get in without top-tier connections or *very* substantial donations, none of which applied in this case.

Makes me like Georgetown more that he didn’t.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our son applied with a 4.1 from a close in difficult HS, mid 1300s on SAT and two varsity sports.

-He was born there.
-His mother attended undergrad and grad school there.
-My father attended undergrad and law school there.
-My FIL taught there for 26 years
-I worked there from 1996-2004
-My family and my wife's family have been making annual donations since June of 1966.

Not only was he rejected, but we didn't even get so much as an acknowledgement that they turned down a 5 degree legacy.

F&&k Georgetown. Not only will they never see another dime from any of us, but I will openly disparage them at any opportunity.

Okay but it's irrational not to concede his stats were not at all competitive. Legacy doesn't give THAT much of a boost. You should have spent some of that money on SAT tutors.

I knew this post was drag the 'not competitive' lady out of the shadows. Bless your heart. 1350 is 95th percentile, 4.1 is 99th percentile. Carrying two varsity sports on top of that is bonkers. PP's kid is more than capable of handling the mediore academics at GU. His problem was being male and white, probably.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our son applied with a 4.1 from a close in difficult HS, mid 1300s on SAT and two varsity sports.

-He was born there.
-His mother attended undergrad and grad school there.
-My father attended undergrad and law school there.
-My FIL taught there for 26 years
-I worked there from 1996-2004
-My family and my wife's family have been making annual donations since June of 1966.

Not only was he rejected, but we didn't even get so much as an acknowledgement that they turned down a 5 degree legacy.

F&&k Georgetown. Not only will they never see another dime from any of us, but I will openly disparage them at any opportunity.

Okay but it's irrational not to concede his stats were not at all competitive. Legacy doesn't give THAT much of a boost. You should have spent some of that money on SAT tutors.

If you think there werent any kids in this years admissions that scored in the 1300s then you are a fool, simply put.

I think anyone is a fool who thinks a kid with a 1300 is going to get in without top-tier connections or *very* substantial donations, none of which applied in this case.

You should learn to read. Better to keep ones mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our son applied with a 4.1 from a close in difficult HS, mid 1300s on SAT and two varsity sports.

-He was born there.
-His mother attended undergrad and grad school there.
-My father attended undergrad and law school there.
-My FIL taught there for 26 years
-I worked there from 1996-2004
-My family and my wife's family have been making annual donations since June of 1966.

Not only was he rejected, but we didn't even get so much as an acknowledgement that they turned down a 5 degree legacy.

F&&k Georgetown. Not only will they never see another dime from any of us, but I will openly disparage them at any opportunity.

Okay but it's irrational not to concede his stats were not at all competitive. Legacy doesn't give THAT much of a boost. You should have spent some of that money on SAT tutors.

If you think there werent any kids in this years admissions that scored in the 1300s then you are a fool, simply put.

I think anyone is a fool who thinks a kid with a 1300 is going to get in without top-tier connections or *very* substantial donations, none of which applied in this case.

Uhhh, my kid got into Brown with a 1320. And Brown is light years above Georgetown.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When we toured it, we felt the same. Even with legacy it was as unappealing (which it wasn’t before the tour).

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:BC has a nicer campus by a lot. Fordham too FWIW.

I agree Georgetown has a dorm and food problem. But both are solvable w some money.

I dont really know if there are internships as plentiful as there were 10 years ago.

+1

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our son applied with a 4.1 from a close in difficult HS, mid 1300s on SAT and two varsity sports.

-He was born there.
-His mother attended undergrad and grad school there.
-My father attended undergrad and law school there.
-My FIL taught there for 26 years
-I worked there from 1996-2004
-My family and my wife's family have been making annual donations since June of 1966.

Not only was he rejected, but we didn't even get so much as an acknowledgement that they turned down a 5 degree legacy.

F&&k Georgetown. Not only will they never see another dime from any of us, but I will openly disparage them at any opportunity.

Okay but it's irrational not to concede his stats were not at all competitive. Legacy doesn't give THAT much of a boost. You should have spent some of that money on SAT tutors.

If you think there werent any kids in this years admissions that scored in the 1300s then you are a fool, simply put.

I think anyone is a fool who thinks a kid with a 1300 is going to get in without top-tier connections or *very* substantial donations, none of which applied in this case.

This. Double legacy without reasonably strong stats (at least above bottom quartile) will not get you into any top school. And no school cares about teaching faculty unless they're famous. They don't care about modest annual donations either. People way overestimate the value of any of these things to admissions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our son applied with a 4.1 from a close in difficult HS, mid 1300s on SAT and two varsity sports.

-He was born there.
-His mother attended undergrad and grad school there.
-My father attended undergrad and law school there.
-My FIL taught there for 26 years
-I worked there from 1996-2004
-My family and my wife's family have been making annual donations since June of 1966.

Not only was he rejected, but we didn't even get so much as an acknowledgement that they turned down a 5 degree legacy.

F&&k Georgetown. Not only will they never see another dime from any of us, but I will openly disparage them at any opportunity.

Okay but it's irrational not to concede his stats were not at all competitive. Legacy doesn't give THAT much of a boost. You should have spent some of that money on SAT tutors.

If you think there werent any kids in this years admissions that scored in the 1300s then you are a fool, simply put.

I think anyone is a fool who thinks a kid with a 1300 is going to get in without top-tier connections or *very* substantial donations, none of which applied in this case.

This. Double legacy without reasonably strong stats (at least above bottom quartile) will not get you into any top school. And no school cares about teaching faculty unless they're famous. They don't care about modest annual donations either. People way overestimate the value of any of these things to admissions.

Oh. Ok.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our son applied with a 4.1 from a close in difficult HS, mid 1300s on SAT and two varsity sports.

-He was born there.
-His mother attended undergrad and grad school there.
-My father attended undergrad and law school there.
-My FIL taught there for 26 years
-I worked there from 1996-2004
-My family and my wife's family have been making annual donations since June of 1966.

Not only was he rejected, but we didn't even get so much as an acknowledgement that they turned down a 5 degree legacy.

F&&k Georgetown. Not only will they never see another dime from any of us, but I will openly disparage them at any opportunity.

Okay but it's irrational not to concede his stats were not at all competitive. Legacy doesn't give THAT much of a boost. You should have spent some of that money on SAT tutors.

I knew this post was drag the 'not competitive' lady out of the shadows. Bless your heart. 1350 is 95th percentile, 4.1 is 99th percentile. Carrying two varsity sports on top of that is bonkers. PP's kid is more than capable of handling the mediore academics at GU. His problem was being male and white, probably.

No, his problem is that Georgetown is test required and its SAT 25th percentile in 24-25 was 1400. Below 1400 includes athletes and other kids that fill a niche, bigger donors than PP, current faculty kids, and other legacies. 1350 is probably, what, 10th percentile? It’s just not competitive. 4.1 GPA sounds middling for schools around here, and there’s no such thing as national percentiles for GPA. Every school is different.

[Anonymous]

Big misconception is that legacy gets low stat kids in. Legacy gets a kid with stats easily on the curve who didn’t have amazing activities, unique story, or a memorable essay. Let’s be honest, that’s a large fraction of the kids who get rejected from Georgetown.

[Anonymous]

^ wth? 1350 is below the 25% admittance. Below more than 75% of kids admitted.

My kid played 2 varsity sports and a club sport and managed an uw 4.0 (Honors kid/APs), 5s on all AP exams, 35 ACT at a rigorous private.

If your kid had a 4.1 weighted gpa, it means there were many Bs and below.

Maybe they didn’t like how pushy you were about all of that legacy.

[Anonymous]

1350 is fine for recruited athlete or significantly disadvantaged with a unique story. It doesn’t work for legacy unless it’s 7 figure donor legacy.