Hannah Neeleman's Ballerina Farm Halts Sale of Raw Milk Due to Bacteria Concerns

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I followed her a while back when she was just selling her sourdough starter. She was always showing the batches of starter sitting in her dirty kitchen and the whole thing looked so unsanitary. I would NEVER buy any food product from someone who does not seem to understand basic cleanliness.

I later unfollowed after she posted videos of her kids riding without seatbelts/car seats or bike helmets multiple times. Maybe I am uptight, but if you have millions of followers it is EXTREMELY careless to post that without understanding you might be influencing others to be unsafe. Years later I am wondering, if you pay attention to her content at all, how a person would buy raw milk, of all things, from her. I can understand maybe an apron or spoon, if you absolutely must! But not something consumable! She has a track record of ignoring safety and cleanliness!

Her kitchen didn’t look dirty to me.

It doesn't have to look dirty for her to be unsanitary or unsafe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I followed her a while back when she was just selling her sourdough starter. She was always showing the batches of starter sitting in her dirty kitchen and the whole thing looked so unsanitary. I would NEVER buy any food product from someone who does not seem to understand basic cleanliness.

I later unfollowed after she posted videos of her kids riding without seatbelts/car seats or bike helmets multiple times. Maybe I am uptight, but if you have millions of followers it is EXTREMELY careless to post that without understanding you might be influencing others to be unsafe. Years later I am wondering, if you pay attention to her content at all, how a person would buy raw milk, of all things, from her. I can understand maybe an apron or spoon, if you absolutely must! But not something consumable! She has a track record of ignoring safety and cleanliness!

Her kitchen didn’t look dirty to me.

It doesn't have to look dirty for her to be unsanitary or unsafe.

Yes, the fact alone that she was producing this in her home kitchen with kids and dogs coming in and out of the room during the process is already unsanitary and would be enough that I would question whether her countertops and equipment were properly sanitized. And she used to post ma lot of footage of her house and you could see what a mess it was - no idea if she still shows that.

I grew up in a messy home. It is not the end of the world and not something I judge in and of itself. But you have to be extremely clean to sell food products from your home.

[Anonymous]

I used to work in a dairy factory where there were huge vats of pasteurized milk. I guess the "facility and infrastructure" issues mean that they have to have much smaller batches as the risk of contamination increases as you mix larger volumes that are unpasterized. And you probably need refrigeration at every step.

I drank raw milk when I was traveling through Switzerland. The owner of a lodge had a few cows. But like someone mentioned upthreas, she did boil the milk before serving it. It was delicious.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Raw milk is extremely dangerous

No, it is not extremely dangerous.

We grew up buying raw milk from the dairy farmer. We would boil, cool, refrigerate and then consume as regular pasteurized milk.

When we did not have a fridge, we boiled the milk morning and evening to kill any pathogens. No one EVER got sick.

lol, do you know what pasteurization is? Milk is brought to 160 degrees for 15 seconds. The reason nobody got sick from your raw milk is you brought it to 212 degrees.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Raw milk is extremely dangerous

No, it is not extremely dangerous.

We grew up buying raw milk from the dairy farmer. We would boil, cool, refrigerate and then consume as regular pasteurized milk.

When we did not have a fridge, we boiled the milk morning and evening to kill any pathogens. No one EVER got sick.

lol, do you know what pasteurization is? Milk is brought to 160 degrees for 15 seconds. The reason nobody got sick from your raw milk is you brought it to 212 degrees.

I can’t stop laughing at the just boil the raw milk people. Like literally how are people this clueless.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Guys when I saw this story last week I went down the rabbit hole on Reddit. You need to see the state of this barn. Apparently they have robots that clean the poop but it appears to function like a roomba when it encounters dog poop - spreads liquid poop everywhere.

Be warned - this is absolutely disgusting - and this isn’t a gotcha; they actively post these pictures. https://www.reddit.com/r/ballerinafarmsnark/comments/1pt6tii/hmmm_raw_milk/

I wouldn’t even drink pasteurized milk from this place.

Yeah, not surprised. It’s two privileged millionaires playing dress up as farmers. What do people expect?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I used to work in a dairy factory where there were huge vats of pasteurized milk. I guess the "facility and infrastructure" issues mean that they have to have much smaller batches as the risk of contamination increases as you mix larger volumes that are unpasterized. And you probably need refrigeration at every step.

I drank raw milk when I was traveling through Switzerland. The owner of a lodge had a few cows. But like someone mentioned upthreas, she did boil the milk before serving it. It was delicious.

If you boil the raw milk, it’s no longer raw milk, it’s been pasteurized, and any concern about safety has been removed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Raw milk is extremely dangerous

No, it is not extremely dangerous.

We grew up buying raw milk from the dairy farmer. We would boil, cool, refrigerate and then consume as regular pasteurized milk.

When we did not have a fridge, we boiled the milk morning and evening to kill any pathogens. No one EVER got sick.

No one got sick because by boiling it you pasteurized it. Honestly, I hope you’re just pretending not to realize this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Raw milk is extremely dangerous

No, it is not extremely dangerous.

We grew up buying raw milk from the dairy farmer. We would boil, cool, refrigerate and then consume as regular pasteurized milk.

When we did not have a fridge, we boiled the milk morning and evening to kill any pathogens. No one EVER got sick.

These people aren’t boiling it. They are consuming it as is.

Yep. i remember a few years ago, she'd put a little maple syrup in a glass jar (of course, so precious). Then she'd milk the cow into the glass jar, and she'd drink some and whatever little blonde daughter was around would drink it, too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I followed her a while back when she was just selling her sourdough starter. She was always showing the batches of starter sitting in her dirty kitchen and the whole thing looked so unsanitary. I would NEVER buy any food product from someone who does not seem to understand basic cleanliness.

I later unfollowed after she posted videos of her kids riding without seatbelts/car seats or bike helmets multiple times. Maybe I am uptight, but if you have millions of followers it is EXTREMELY careless to post that without understanding you might be influencing others to be unsafe. Years later I am wondering, if you pay attention to her content at all, how a person would buy raw milk, of all things, from her. I can understand maybe an apron or spoon, if you absolutely must! But not something consumable! She has a track record of ignoring safety and cleanliness!

Her kitchen didn’t look dirty to me.

It doesn't have to look dirty for her to be unsanitary or unsafe.

It’s too dirty to sell to consumers from, because things might be sitting, the surfaces she has can’t be sanitized properly, etc. Anyway, everything they sell comes from commercial kitchens or are repackaged imported goods with an astronomical markup, so it doesn’t really matter. The meat they sell for insane prices isn’t even from their farm but they heavily imply it is. There’s no way they could be producing so much meat from the farm they have. They never say where their meat comes from. It’s probably packaged for them from the same places that sell their meat to Walmart and other grocery stores.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Raw milk is extremely dangerous

No, it is not extremely dangerous.

We grew up buying raw milk from the dairy farmer. We would boil, cool, refrigerate and then consume as regular pasteurized milk.

When we did not have a fridge, we boiled the milk morning and evening to kill any pathogens. No one EVER got sick.

lol, do you know what pasteurization is? Milk is brought to 160 degrees for 15 seconds. The reason nobody got sick from your raw milk is you brought it to 212 degrees.

I can’t stop laughing at the just boil the raw milk people. Like literally how are people this clueless.

These dum-dums are the reason we have Trump and the brain worm .

[Anonymous]

The milk-boilers remind me of the taxi driver in Desperately Seeking Susan:

"Everyone goes for sushi. Sushi - I hate the stuff. Although, I tell you, I had some the other day. I took it home, I cooked it, it wasn't bad. It tasted like fish."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: The milk-boilers remind me of the taxi driver in Desperately Seeking Susan:

"Everyone goes for sushi. Sushi - I hate the stuff. Although, I tell you, I had some the other day. I took it home, I cooked it, it wasn't bad. It tasted like fish."

Hahaha

[Anonymous]

Anyone who drinks raw milk from some random influencer is a moron.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anyone who drinks raw milk from some random influencer is a moron.

To be fair, she's not a random influencer in terms of buying food. She and her husband run a farm and farm store. They only sell the raw milk in their brick and mortar store so I don't think people see it as "Omg I have to buy my milk from Hannah because she's so cool," I think they see it as "Oh, Hannah goes to the same temple as me and owns a market in my town and I buy her beef all the time so I'll buy milk from her too."

Also worth noting they live in rural Utah, not SLC. I'm willing to bet a lot of people there drink raw milk anyway.

Idk. I wouldn't drink raw milk but I guess if I were a Mormon farmer who drank raw milk already I wouldn't have any problem buying it from a couple in my town.