British Royals

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know, but I think it's pretty telling about Royal fans that they think Harry & Meghan are a bigger problem than Andrew and Fergie.

That is quite an assumption. Sheesh.

What??? They don’t!! Unlike Andrew, Harry is still styled a Prince despite the fact that is ditched Royal duties for Hollywood, has relentlessly bashed the BRF and doesn’t even live in Britain anymore. Meghan has zero Royal blood and she’s allowed to call herself Duchess, which despite calling the BRF racist, she does so to the point of having herself announced to audiences of one. She’s full of it. H & M announced their kid to be titled as Prince and Princess on their own after claiming to Oprah Archie wouldn’t be a Prince because of his skin color (blatant lie, Charles had to become King first for him to get the title ). All this hatred for the BRF would be more believable if they didn’t cling to Royal titles and entitlement. I’d have more respect for them if they weren’t such hypocrites!

The biggest losers are Princesses Eugenia and Beatrice who live relatively drama free but their parents have destroyed their lives with their disgusting association with Epstein. Those two I truly feel sorry for.

Andrew and Sarah are stripped of titles. Done. They are beyond horrific. Vile. Banished for life. I hope they crawl under rocks and disappear.

I actually feel worse for Eugenie and Beatrice not because of their parents association with Epstein, but because their father is presumably a percent and pedophile. It’s very chilling to think of what dysfunction they could have grown up with.

Pervert not percent*

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Anonymous wrote:The British royal family has often been pretty trashy. Not saying Queen Elizabeth was, but there's a fairly long history of British royals messing around outside of marriage and treating the "little people" pretty poorly.

Money, fame, and power seem to create their own moral universe, unfortunately. And the people in that universe have a very different sense of right and wrong than the rest of us.

They messed around because they were alk forced to marry their cousin uncles

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Anonymous wrote:To be fair, Harry didn’t say anything that scandalous in his autobiography, even the interviews seemed tame. I am sure he could have said a lot more.
He is just in the receiving end of the tabloid drama that is in many ways controlled by the royal family.
But you are right, they are trashy and always have been. Even Charles said to his wife ‘Did you think I was going to be the first Prince of Wales to not have a mistress?’

He accused William of shoving him. Accused Kate of not wanting to hug or share lip gloss with Meghan, and also of “making Meghan cry” and they accused some unnamed person of asking about the baby’s skin color.

Well, none of it's exactly a hanging offense is it?

Of course not. But he’s definitely airing dirty laundry, and doing so intentionally. Surely you can see where this would create distrust?

Yes, however, if I were his parent, nothing in there would keep me from establishing a relationship with his children. All the more if I think is wife is a bit off. What's missing seems to be the warmth and caring towards him and his children, which is made all the more sad because he lost his mother so young and was so vulnerable, in a way Will wasn't as an older kid.

The daughter in law is cutting off the grandparents from the grandchildren... on both sides of the family.

Tell us you don't know any nightmare daughter in laws without actually saying it.

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Anonymous wrote:To be fair, Harry didn’t say anything that scandalous in his autobiography, even the interviews seemed tame. I am sure he could have said a lot more.
He is just in the receiving end of the tabloid drama that is in many ways controlled by the royal family.
But you are right, they are trashy and always have been. Even Charles said to his wife ‘Did you think I was going to be the first Prince of Wales to not have a mistress?’

Right?

I just think...Harry didn't do anything that bad? I mean, he's messed up from the trauma of losing his mom when he was so young and then, I think, not having any parent at all who put him first after that horrible day they made him walk on international TV behind his mom's casket. But I don't think he's a bad person. He's spoken about mental health issues a lot, in a way that is helpful to others. He acknowledges that he is a little messed up.

But:

I remember reading how immature he was for having (allegedly) punched his old Uncle Andrew at some family event, and telling William that he "hates" his Uncle Andrew. And...we can see that he was right. Andrew is disgusting.

I have real respect for Harry for taking his family far away from this messed up family who protected this vile abuser for years. I can't really respect William as much, because he was happy to keep in the fold and keep his mouth shut until it could be avoided no longer.

They're all messed up. But Harry is messed up with a little bit of integrity.

This is my take too. They’re a little messed up but haven’t done anything horrible, don’t really seem like horrible people (let’s be real, everyone is a little selfish and wants the best for their kids) — while Andrew is the truly vile one. Not even comparable. Which is why it makes no sense to me why Charles would house Andrew and provide him with private security but not his own son and innocent grandkids.

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Anonymous wrote:To be fair, Harry didn’t say anything that scandalous in his autobiography, even the interviews seemed tame. I am sure he could have said a lot more.
He is just in the receiving end of the tabloid drama that is in many ways controlled by the royal family.
But you are right, they are trashy and always have been. Even Charles said to his wife ‘Did you think I was going to be the first Prince of Wales to not have a mistress?’

He accused William of shoving him. Accused Kate of not wanting to hug or share lip gloss with Meghan, and also of “making Meghan cry” and they accused some unnamed person of asking about the baby’s skin color.

Well, none of it's exactly a hanging offense is it?

Of course not. But he’s definitely airing dirty laundry, and doing so intentionally. Surely you can see where this would create distrust?

Creating distrust doesn’t make you a horrible person, especially if all true (which to me all seems to be). And they’ve said they only did this because his brother/ father wouldn’t correct the tabloids that were running so many false stories and being so horrible to Meghan that she wanted to kill herself. Seems like a pretty tame response to me.

I’m glad they got out of that toxic circle. What they do now to make money is not glamorous at all, but understandable.

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Anonymous wrote:To be fair, Harry didn’t say anything that scandalous in his autobiography, even the interviews seemed tame. I am sure he could have said a lot more.
He is just in the receiving end of the tabloid drama that is in many ways controlled by the royal family.
But you are right, they are trashy and always have been. Even Charles said to his wife ‘Did you think I was going to be the first Prince of Wales to not have a mistress?’

He accused William of shoving him. Accused Kate of not wanting to hug or share lip gloss with Meghan, and also of “making Meghan cry” and they accused some unnamed person of asking about the baby’s skin color.

Well, none of it's exactly a hanging offense is it?

Of course not. But he’s definitely airing dirty laundry, and doing so intentionally. Surely you can see where this would create distrust?

Creating distrust doesn’t make you a horrible person, especially if all true (which to me all seems to be). And they’ve said they only did this because his brother/ father wouldn’t correct the tabloids that were running so many false stories and being so horrible to Meghan that she wanted to kill herself. Seems like a pretty tame response to me.

I’m glad they got out of that toxic circle. What they do now to make money is not glamorous at all, but understandable.

From what I can tell, being part of the royal family is only toxic if you make it toxic. Will & Kate seem to be doing an excellent job with their marriage and kids. Ditto for Edward and Sophie and their kids who are almost completely out of the limelight. Anne's two kids have lives of their own.

People who make themselves controversial slide into toxicity. Whatever Harry and Meghan's problems were, it clearly was due to them and their characters. Andrew and Fergie are perfect examples. Meghan should consider herself thankful she's a generation removed from Epstein otherwise I don't doubt she'd have been like Sarah Ferguson simpering for red carpet treatments from Epstein in exchange for access to Harry. It's right up her alley.

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Anonymous wrote:To be fair, Harry didn’t say anything that scandalous in his autobiography, even the interviews seemed tame. I am sure he could have said a lot more.
He is just in the receiving end of the tabloid drama that is in many ways controlled by the royal family.
But you are right, they are trashy and always have been. Even Charles said to his wife ‘Did you think I was going to be the first Prince of Wales to not have a mistress?’

He accused William of shoving him. Accused Kate of not wanting to hug or share lip gloss with Meghan, and also of “making Meghan cry” and they accused some unnamed person of asking about the baby’s skin color.

Well, none of it's exactly a hanging offense is it?

Of course not. But he’s definitely airing dirty laundry, and doing so intentionally. Surely you can see where this would create distrust?

I don’t want to share lip gloss with anyone. Gross!

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Anonymous wrote:To be fair, Harry didn’t say anything that scandalous in his autobiography, even the interviews seemed tame. I am sure he could have said a lot more.
He is just in the receiving end of the tabloid drama that is in many ways controlled by the royal family.
But you are right, they are trashy and always have been. Even Charles said to his wife ‘Did you think I was going to be the first Prince of Wales to not have a mistress?’

He accused William of shoving him. Accused Kate of not wanting to hug or share lip gloss with Meghan, and also of “making Meghan cry” and they accused some unnamed person of asking about the baby’s skin color.

Well, none of it's exactly a hanging offense is it?

Of course not. But he’s definitely airing dirty laundry, and doing so intentionally. Surely you can see where this would create distrust?

Yes, however, if I were his parent, nothing in there would keep me from establishing a relationship with his children. All the more if I think is wife is a bit off. What's missing seems to be the warmth and caring towards him and his children, which is made all the more sad because he lost his mother so young and was so vulnerable, in a way Will wasn't as an older kid.

The daughter in law is cutting off the grandparents from the grandchildren... on both sides of the family.

Tell us you don't know any nightmare daughter in laws without actually saying it.

He is a grown man and they are his children too.

He's made his choice and all can't be on the shoulders of the one who did not grow up in the family

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know, but I think it's pretty telling about Royal fans that they think Harry & Meghan are a bigger problem than Andrew and Fergie.

That is quite an assumption. Sheesh.

Andrew is still somewhat controllable (aka financially dependent) the other two are not and have a habit of writing books and making Netflix documentaries.

+1. Andrew isn’t a threat to the monarchy. He’s a pervert who will never ascend to the crown. Harry and Meghan are taking direct shots at numbers 1 and 2 in line to the throne.

They’ve basically told Andrew “here’s what’s going to happen” and he’s at their knees. They should do a lot worse and he knows that. Andrew should be in prison. Andrew will do whatever he is told to stay out of prison and in his cushy life.

The drama with Harry and Meghan is much more nuanced. It is a war of words and egos. I’m betting that both sides have things they could really unleash about the others and haven’t.

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Anonymous wrote:To be fair, Harry didn’t say anything that scandalous in his autobiography, even the interviews seemed tame. I am sure he could have said a lot more.
He is just in the receiving end of the tabloid drama that is in many ways controlled by the royal family.
But you are right, they are trashy and always have been. Even Charles said to his wife ‘Did you think I was going to be the first Prince of Wales to not have a mistress?’

He accused William of shoving him. Accused Kate of not wanting to hug or share lip gloss with Meghan, and also of “making Meghan cry” and they accused some unnamed person of asking about the baby’s skin color.

Well, none of it's exactly a hanging offense is it?

Of course not. But he’s definitely airing dirty laundry, and doing so intentionally. Surely you can see where this would create distrust?

Yes, however, if I were his parent, nothing in there would keep me from establishing a relationship with his children. All the more if I think is wife is a bit off. What's missing seems to be the warmth and caring towards him and his children, which is made all the more sad because he lost his mother so young and was so vulnerable, in a way Will wasn't as an older kid.

The daughter in law is cutting off the grandparents from the grandchildren... on both sides of the family.

Tell us you don't know any nightmare daughter in laws without actually saying it.

He is a grown man and they are his children too.

He's made his choice and all can't be on the shoulders of the one who did not grow up in the family

+1. Blaming Meagan is wrong. It's Harry's family. He's the one who chose to marry her. They're both responsible for how their life/marriage goes. All the bad choices are BOTH of their fault (and they both come with a lot of family baggage).

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Anonymous wrote:To be fair, Harry didn’t say anything that scandalous in his autobiography, even the interviews seemed tame. I am sure he could have said a lot more.
He is just in the receiving end of the tabloid drama that is in many ways controlled by the royal family.
But you are right, they are trashy and always have been. Even Charles said to his wife ‘Did you think I was going to be the first Prince of Wales to not have a mistress?’

He accused William of shoving him. Accused Kate of not wanting to hug or share lip gloss with Meghan, and also of “making Meghan cry” and they accused some unnamed person of asking about the baby’s skin color.

Well, none of it's exactly a hanging offense is it?

Of course not. But he’s definitely airing dirty laundry, and doing so intentionally. Surely you can see where this would create distrust?

Yes, however, if I were his parent, nothing in there would keep me from establishing a relationship with his children. All the more if I think is wife is a bit off. What's missing seems to be the warmth and caring towards him and his children, which is made all the more sad because he lost his mother so young and was so vulnerable, in a way Will wasn't as an older kid.

You aren’t the King of England. And you don’t know what demands Harry may or may not have stipulated before giving access.

Well, that's true. But also, it's okay to be sad for Harry even if you hate Meghan.

Agreed. He needs to get his kids in a plane and go to England - away from her.

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Anonymous wrote:To be fair, Harry didn’t say anything that scandalous in his autobiography, even the interviews seemed tame. I am sure he could have said a lot more.
He is just in the receiving end of the tabloid drama that is in many ways controlled by the royal family.
But you are right, they are trashy and always have been. Even Charles said to his wife ‘Did you think I was going to be the first Prince of Wales to not have a mistress?’

He accused William of shoving him. Accused Kate of not wanting to hug or share lip gloss with Meghan, and also of “making Meghan cry” and they accused some unnamed person of asking about the baby’s skin color.

Well, none of it's exactly a hanging offense is it?

Of course not. But he’s definitely airing dirty laundry, and doing so intentionally. Surely you can see where this would create distrust?

Creating distrust doesn’t make you a horrible person, especially if all true (which to me all seems to be). And they’ve said they only did this because his brother/ father wouldn’t correct the tabloids that were running so many false stories and being so horrible to Meghan that she wanted to kill herself. Seems like a pretty tame response to me.

I’m glad they got out of that toxic circle. What they do now to make money is not glamorous at all, but understandable.

From what I can tell, being part of the royal family is only toxic if you make it toxic. Will & Kate seem to be doing an excellent job with their marriage and kids. Ditto for Edward and Sophie and their kids who are almost completely out of the limelight. Anne's two kids have lives of their own.

People who make themselves controversial slide into toxicity. Whatever Harry and Meghan's problems were, it clearly was due to them and their characters. Andrew and Fergie are perfect examples. Meghan should consider herself thankful she's a generation removed from Epstein otherwise I don't doubt she'd have been like Sarah Ferguson simpering for red carpet treatments from Epstein in exchange for access to Harry. It's right up her alley.

There are actually connections seen in the Epstein files. A photo, email about soho house, and more.

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Anonymous wrote:To be fair, Harry didn’t say anything that scandalous in his autobiography, even the interviews seemed tame. I am sure he could have said a lot more.
He is just in the receiving end of the tabloid drama that is in many ways controlled by the royal family.
But you are right, they are trashy and always have been. Even Charles said to his wife ‘Did you think I was going to be the first Prince of Wales to not have a mistress?’

He accused William of shoving him. Accused Kate of not wanting to hug or share lip gloss with Meghan, and also of “making Meghan cry” and they accused some unnamed person of asking about the baby’s skin color.

Well, none of it's exactly a hanging offense is it?

Of course not. But he’s definitely airing dirty laundry, and doing so intentionally. Surely you can see where this would create distrust?

If a person does not want people to talk about their racism, they should not be racist.

Let us remember who planted stories that M was the problem.

The whole family is effed. Why do you think Diana had such problems?

I just can't imagine thinking Harry and Megan are the bad ones when there's a literal pedo and a bunch of pedo enablers in the family.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you referring to the Mountbatten-Windsor formerly known as Prince? Lol have been waiting to try that line.

Them as well but Andrew-Ferguson, Charles-Diana, Charles-Camilla, no one sounds like a stable or ethical person.

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Diana running to Doddy Al-Fayad, Sarah to Epstein, Meghan to Typer Perry for money as soon as money gets tight.