The Residence Inn in Charlottesville was $750 a night for a one bedroom suite (we are a family of 4) last year! NP |
| That's why so many Americans are travelling outside of the US. You get much cheaper hotels in Europe for a much better value. and it's not like airline tickets to travel within the US are much cheaper than the ones from US to Europe. |
Don’t think that’s true for Europe anymore. |
Graduation? |
I paid $350 including taxes for a basic hotel room in NYC a few months ago. |
| Blame republicans it’s only going to get worse |
Exactly. The value isn't there in the US. You get so much more bang for your buck overseas. The service is so much better too. Daily housekeeping is still a thing, and the breakfasts are so much better, even at 'lower end' Fairfield Inn level Marriotts. |
LOL but they typically don't have air conditioning. |
that or football weekend. |
| We're going to Kauai in a few months and we booked a VRBO a block away from the beach for way less than any hotel would cost. |
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I've never paid more than $300/night for a hotel, and that rarely, but I still agree with OP. I think the issue is that there is often no middle ground, when there used to be.
I grew up in a middle class family where we stayed at Holiday Inns and HoJos. Not fancy, but clean, convenient, and they usually had a decent pool for the kids. That's how my family of 6 was able to take spring break and summer vacations to places like Florida, Phoenix, and Denver, and occasionally pricier places like DC or Southern California. We always needed two rooms, which adds up fast, so my parents worked hard to keep the rate down. The mid-level brands all skew high or low. You can find Holiday Inns that cost $450 a night, and I'm talking about a Philly suburb here. On the other hand, you can also find ones that cost under $150, but they will be disgusting. Like dirty bathrooms, water stains on the ceiling, visible mold around the indoor pool. The more high end the destination, the more expensive the disgusting version will be -- go to a popular beach town in the summer and enjoy spending $400 a night on a place like that. Easily. So those are the options now: very pricy or disgusting, or both. It's very, very hard to find clean, with basic amenities, under $200 a night, unless you are very careful to book off season and know where to find deals. I've done it, but you have to be sneaky to make it work. |
That's why you go to Northern Europe in the summer or travel off season. You don't need air conditioning in most European cities outside of June-August. Yes, even with global warming. It's gotten to the point where much of Europe is susceptible to heat waves in the summer and that can be miserable in a city like Paris or Rome that lacks the infrastructure for it, but if you instead do Copenhagen or Helsinki, you'll be fine. And if you go November-March, you can go anywhere in Europe and not worry about AC. I'd personally also be okay traveling to southern Europe in July and just figuring it out, but I'm a reasonably adventurous traveler. Americans are nuts about climate control though. Especially in the Southern US. It is wild to me that people will choose to live in Houston or Tampa or Atlanta but then freak out about air conditioning. If the heat bugs you so much, move to Vermont! It's such a weird flex to insist on living in a warm weather place but then also insist that you spend 95% of your time in 70 degree comfort. |
Up your budget if you want better value in Hawaii. That something was less expensive or less crowded in the past means nothing. I want Cinque Terre 20+ years ago. Up your budget, or go to Japan. |
Of course it is. Just not in the big cities. |
This isn’t new. It started under Biden. If you search, you can find threads on this topic starting in 2023. |