Nearly 40% of Stanford's undergraduates are disabled

Anonymous
also an old story that I'm sure was talked about here
Anonymous
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1304701.page

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1298929.page

can't seem to find the original page, but this an article about something that was everywhere 2 months ago
Anonymous
Here's the new scam at Stanford - pretending to be Jains to use meal plan $ towards Whole Foods.
Another scam are food stamps. very easy for college students to get.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/stanford-students-pretend-to-be-jains-to-escape-7944-mandatory-meal-plan/articleshow/127872443.cms
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wow. When everyone gets accommodations, no one gets accommodations.


Accommodations are not supposed to be an advantage, they are supposed to remove a barrier that allows the disabled person to perform. Of course with a timed exam, extra time seems like an absolute advantage more than it does a wheelchair ramp.


Extra time only seems like an advantage to you because you don’t have a barrier that needs to be removed.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:From 2011 to 2018 (under former President Obama), federal investigators uncovered massive fraud in university admissions:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varsity_Blues_scandal

Numerous felony convictions were obtained and people went to prison.

I bring it up as a “dose of reality” to the DCUM people who are aghast, clutching their entitled pearls, and claiming cheating in university admissions does not actually happen.

It has been proven to occur. Which begs the question:

- What motive do some of you have in denying the existence of cheating in university admissions?


Time for new investigations.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wow. When everyone gets accommodations, no one gets accommodations.


Accommodations are not supposed to be an advantage, they are supposed to remove a barrier that allows the disabled person to perform. Of course with a timed exam, extra time seems like an absolute advantage more than it does a wheelchair ramp.


Extra time only seems like an advantage to you because you don’t have a barrier that needs to be removed.


I suspect most don't have issues with accommodations when genuinely needed. It's the abuse of the accommodations by those who don't need them in order to get a competitive advantage that is the problem. Don't be naive, these diagnoses can be bought.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wow. When everyone gets accommodations, no one gets accommodations.


Accommodations are not supposed to be an advantage, they are supposed to remove a barrier that allows the disabled person to perform. Of course with a timed exam, extra time seems like an absolute advantage more than it does a wheelchair ramp.


Extra time only seems like an advantage to you because you don’t have a barrier that needs to be removed.


I suspect most don't have issues with accommodations when genuinely needed. It's the abuse of the accommodations by those who don't need them in order to get a competitive advantage that is the problem. Don't be naive, these diagnoses can be bought.


This is the issue. If you live in an affluent suburb or send your child to private school, you will see that kids who did perfectly great without accommodations decided around 9th or 10th grade to get an MD to diagnose them for anxiety or ADHD in order to get more time on standardized tests. There is rampant abuse of the system - the 40% probably reflects about 40% of the kids at many private schools (or wealthy public schools).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:From 2011 to 2018 (under former President Obama), federal investigators uncovered massive fraud in university admissions:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varsity_Blues_scandal

Numerous felony convictions were obtained and people went to prison.

I bring it up as a “dose of reality” to the DCUM people who are aghast, clutching their entitled pearls, and claiming cheating in university admissions does not actually happen.

It has been proven to occur. Which begs the question:

- What motive do some of you have in denying the existence of cheating in university admissions?


Time for new investigations.



And no doubt an investigation will prove that 40 percent of Stanford students do not, in fact, have ADHD. But Stanford is a funneler into venture capital and private equity, which values unethical behavior. It's not a surprise that Stanford rewards students and families that cheat and game the system to their advantage. That's exactly what employers of Stanford students are looking for. But it must really suck to be a professor of these students.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Uhm, I think OP understood the article perfectly and above posters missed the satirical tone of her post.


No, OP’s post is an example of their disability.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:From 2011 to 2018 (under former President Obama), federal investigators uncovered massive fraud in university admissions:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varsity_Blues_scandal

Numerous felony convictions were obtained and people went to prison.

I bring it up as a “dose of reality” to the DCUM people who are aghast, clutching their entitled pearls, and claiming cheating in university admissions does not actually happen.

It has been proven to occur. Which begs the question:

- What motive do some of you have in denying the existence of cheating in university admissions?


Time for new investigations.



And no doubt an investigation will prove that 40 percent of Stanford students do not, in fact, have ADHD. But Stanford is a funneler into venture capital and private equity, which values unethical behavior. It's not a surprise that Stanford rewards students and families that cheat and game the system to their advantage. That's exactly what employers of Stanford students are looking for. But it must really suck to be a professor of these students.


Can’t the professor also claim a disability? Like “behaviorial rigidity forces me to give out Cs, Ds, and Fs and I need to continue doing that otherwise I’ll suffer a breakdown”?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wow. When everyone gets accommodations, no one gets accommodations.


Should only people in wheelchairs get to use ramps/curb cut outs, or is it okay with you that it also benefits a parent pushing a stroller, delivery person using a dolly, student rolling luggage, etc?

That's not how testing accomodations work. If everyone gets 2 hours to do a one hour test, those with accomodations must be given even more than 2 hours.


No, that's how "unfair advantage" works. If you have slow processing speed and need more time, an accommodation gives you more time than a typical person would take to finish the test. It shouldn't matter how much time everyone else gets.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wow. When everyone gets accommodations, no one gets accommodations.


Accommodations are not supposed to be an advantage, they are supposed to remove a barrier that allows the disabled person to perform. Of course with a timed exam, extra time seems like an absolute advantage more than it does a wheelchair ramp.


Extra time only seems like an advantage to you because you don’t have a barrier that needs to be removed.


I suspect most don't have issues with accommodations when genuinely needed. It's the abuse of the accommodations by those who don't need them in order to get a competitive advantage that is the problem. Don't be naive, these diagnoses can be bought.


This is the issue. If you live in an affluent suburb or send your child to private school, you will see that kids who did perfectly great without accommodations decided around 9th or 10th grade to get an MD to diagnose them for anxiety or ADHD in order to get more time on standardized tests. There is rampant abuse of the system - the 40% probably reflects about 40% of the kids at many private schools (or wealthy public schools).


My kid is in 9th and I’m currently looking to get an ADHD diagnosis now that I’ve read the article.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wow. When everyone gets accommodations, no one gets accommodations.


Accommodations are not supposed to be an advantage, they are supposed to remove a barrier that allows the disabled person to perform. Of course with a timed exam, extra time seems like an absolute advantage more than it does a wheelchair ramp.


Extra time only seems like an advantage to you because you don’t have a barrier that needs to be removed.


I suspect most don't have issues with accommodations when genuinely needed. It's the abuse of the accommodations by those who don't need them in order to get a competitive advantage that is the problem. Don't be naive, these diagnoses can be bought.


This is the issue. If you live in an affluent suburb or send your child to private school, you will see that kids who did perfectly great without accommodations decided around 9th or 10th grade to get an MD to diagnose them for anxiety or ADHD in order to get more time on standardized tests. There is rampant abuse of the system - the 40% probably reflects about 40% of the kids at many private schools (or wealthy public schools).


My kid is in 9th and I’m currently looking to get an ADHD diagnosis now that I’ve read the article.


You should ask them to add autism because you can get all kinds of crazy accommodations with it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wow. When everyone gets accommodations, no one gets accommodations.


Should only people in wheelchairs get to use ramps/curb cut outs, or is it okay with you that it also benefits a parent pushing a stroller, delivery person using a dolly, student rolling luggage, etc?

That's not how testing accomodations work. If everyone gets 2 hours to do a one hour test, those with accomodations must be given even more than 2 hours.


No, that's how "unfair advantage" works. If you have slow processing speed and need more time, an accommodation gives you more time than a typical person would take to finish the test. It shouldn't matter how much time everyone else gets.


… and thereby fails to test the very thing the test was testing for (processing speed). Endless extended time means never considering processing speed, which is absurd. I could even argue that it is discriminatory to my ASD kid who has high processing speed.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wow. When everyone gets accommodations, no one gets accommodations.


Accommodations are not supposed to be an advantage, they are supposed to remove a barrier that allows the disabled person to perform. Of course with a timed exam, extra time seems like an absolute advantage more than it does a wheelchair ramp.


Extra time only seems like an advantage to you because you don’t have a barrier that needs to be removed.


I suspect most don't have issues with accommodations when genuinely needed. It's the abuse of the accommodations by those who don't need them in order to get a competitive advantage that is the problem. Don't be naive, these diagnoses can be bought.


This is the issue. If you live in an affluent suburb or send your child to private school, you will see that kids who did perfectly great without accommodations decided around 9th or 10th grade to get an MD to diagnose them for anxiety or ADHD in order to get more time on standardized tests. There is rampant abuse of the system - the 40% probably reflects about 40% of the kids at many private schools (or wealthy public schools).


Yes, and it's not just standardized tests. It's school tests, as well. School administrators recognize the problem, but seem to be powerless to do anything about it. Nearly half the students in our daughter's private school get extra time.
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