Nearly 40% of Stanford's undergraduates are disabled

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:That's not what this article or the overall discussion is about. It's about gaming the system.


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Fact is: no where near 40% of the students are actually disabled.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:https://www.thetimes.com/us/news-today/article/40-percent-stanford-undergraduates-claim-disabled-sw99r3k8c

While some may disagree with Stanford leaning into admitting such a high percentage of disabled students, it's welcoming to see that the stigma of having a disability is gone.

It's also a testament to the strength and resilience of a Stanford student. In addition to having to achieve top SATs, rigor and amazing extra curriculars, they needed to overcome extreme challenges. Hopefully this filters out into society, be it law, medicine, business, etc.


Did you even read the article?! Or the first 3 paragraphs?! The article is NOT about having disabilities. It’s about claiming yo have a disability to get a single dorm room and extra time on tests.



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Here in FCPS schools, there are quite a few striver-parents who have sought out doctors who will willingly assign an ADHD diagnosis to anyone who asks (and whose insurance pays).

Then, magically, your child gets extra time on tests, including the all-important SAT:

https://accommodations.collegeboard.org/how-accommodations-work/about-accommodations/extended-time
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Wow. When everyone gets accommodations, no one gets accommodations.


Should only people in wheelchairs get to use ramps/curb cut outs, or is it okay with you that it also benefits a parent pushing a stroller, delivery person using a dolly, student rolling luggage, etc?

That's not how testing accomodations work. If everyone gets 2 hours to do a one hour test, those with accomodations must be given even more than 2 hours.

Just design a test for 3 hours and give everyone accommodation time.

Nope, you can't give everyone accomodation time. If the kids without accomodations get 3 hours, the kids with accomodations can successfully petition for more than 3 hours.

Do you see the problem here?
Anonymous
If you cannot even get your child some academic accommodations, do you even love your child? It is $425 to get it online.



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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wow. When everyone gets accommodations, no one gets accommodations.


Should only people in wheelchairs get to use ramps/curb cut outs, or is it okay with you that it also benefits a parent pushing a stroller, delivery person using a dolly, student rolling luggage, etc?

That's not how testing accomodations work. If everyone gets 2 hours to do a one hour test, those with accomodations must be given even more than 2 hours.

Just design a test for 3 hours and give everyone accommodation time.

Nope, you can't give everyone accomodation time. If the kids without accomodations get 3 hours, the kids with accomodations can successfully petition for more than 3 hours.

Do you see the problem here?


That problem has a name:

“equity of outcome”
Anonymous
HS teacher:

It’s because of this that I write unit tests a neurotypical kid should be able to finish in 30 minutes. I give everyone 1 hour. My adhd/other kids get 1.5 hours. Everyone is finished within the block class period.

And then parents complain that it was too short and missing one question dropped their grade 5%.

You can’t have it both ways…time is a finite resource.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:HS teacher:

It’s because of this that I write unit tests a neurotypical kid should be able to finish in 30 minutes. I give everyone 1 hour. My adhd/other kids get 1.5 hours. Everyone is finished within the block class period.

And then parents complain that it was too short and missing one question dropped their grade 5%.

You can’t have it both ways…time is a finite resource.


This what teachers do in private. they out smart the extra time scammers. So they write tests so everyone gets more time than they need.
Anonymous
We didn’t even mention DD’s disability in her applications and she didn’t have any testing accommodations. No hints through her activities either.
Anonymous
What's funny is that my kids with severe ADHD and dyslexia rarely asks for accommodations and services and wants to learn without meds. He's in 10th. He also wants to go to MIT....so we are looking at VTech.
Anonymous
The rich and privileged elite find more ways to get what they want. What else is new?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:We didn’t even mention DD’s disability in her applications and she didn’t have any testing accommodations. No hints through her activities either.


You are an outlier; an exception. You are following the rules.

Most kids with an LD? - their parents scammed the system and cheated to give their kid a boost / hook.

There is no possible way 40% of the “disabled” students are actually disabled. No realistic possibility (unless there is widespread fraud).
Anonymous
From 2011 to 2018 (under former President Obama), federal investigators uncovered massive fraud in university admissions:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varsity_Blues_scandal

Numerous felony convictions were obtained and people went to prison.

I bring it up as a “dose of reality” to the DCUM people who are aghast, clutching their entitled pearls, and claiming cheating in university admissions does not actually happen.

It has been proven to occur. Which begs the question:

- What motive do some of you have in denying the existence of cheating in university admissions?
Anonymous
Many decades ago but my friend -without arms- and wrote with a pencil/pen between his toes didn't even ask for extra time. No accommodations. Quite a guy, a lawyer, graduated from ND.
Anonymous
Accommodations are getting ridiculous and need to be reined in. Wheelchair ramps are cool. Extra time on standardized tests and single rooms as a freshman for "social anxiety" is weak. How are these kids going to function in real life?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:What's funny is that my kids with severe ADHD and dyslexia rarely asks for accommodations and services and wants to learn without meds. He's in 10th. He also wants to go to MIT....so we are looking at VTech.


My kid with ADHD actually races through tests too quickly. Definitely doesn’t need more time.
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