Democratic Party = Loser Party

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Anonymous wrote:Instead of name calling or being "tough," maybe Ds should re-think stuff like the following. Then they might have a long-term chance.

- letting illegal immigrants enter and stay
- affirmative action
- ignoring middle america
- teaching elementary and middle school kids about gay and trans stuff

Instead, they can focus on making sure everyone in america has economic opportunity and worker protections, access to high quality schools, access to good health care, good infrastructure, and national security.
Biden and Obama deported more illegal immigrants than Trump. No, affirmative action stays because the legacy of slavery still exists. Trump is ignoring middle America, so grab. I agree, let's get sexuality stuff out of es and ms.

Finally lol, republicans try very hard to kill unions. That tells you all you need to know.
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Anonymous wrote:The party worked in overdrive to get Zohran unelected. They got Eric Adams to drop out and Crooked Cuomo to ran as an indepdent.

The party couldnt call children being killed and starved a genocide.

When a worker making $10/hr asks for a living wage because everything is unaffordable, they never speak up. the corporate lobbyist money gets them back in line.

The Democrats dont offer anything. They win because the alterntive gets voted out not because they offered anything.

Most of this is BS. Mainstream Democratic positions are vastly more effective and humane than anything Republicans are doing. If you really think Democrats offer nothing, then you are blind.


Lifelong Dem here. Not blind but also not stupid enough to not see that Dems have been extremely disappointing. Pretend they are for the people, but aligned with corporate interests. And I agree, almost none of them could call the murder of thousands of children using our military a genocide, and the ones who did were primaried out of office by AIPAC. Enough already.
Democrats are pragmatists. They don't blow up existing structures and alliances. They work within the system to enact positive change. Biden was doing exactly that, it's just not thrown in your face witb a bunch of "only I can do xyz, and have succeeded like no one else ever".

If the Dems deserve a criticism it's that they don't let people know about the good stuff their doing and why.


This is nonsense. They were attached to AIPAC money. Pragmatism is not their problem. If it was, why did they push out Al Franken over nonsense?

But I’ll agree, they’re bad at good PR


They're all, with the exception of a handful in Congress, tied to big money in one way or another. 4 billion dollars were "donated" to these major political parties during the last election cycle.

Trump is indeed our biggest short term problem but we've got to figure out how to reduce the influence of money in politics. As it is, the ultra wealthy donors have a very impactful amount of control over our Federal Government and our best and brightest aren't entering the toxic political arena.
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Anonymous wrote:Can you offer an alternative? MAGA is 100x worse


NP here. Run a moderate Democrat in 2028 who has an impressive military record alike Kelly and isn’t going to chase away two-thirds of the party. Democrats have yo love back to the center and stop trying to shove candidates who are too liberal down everyone’s throats.


Why should Democrats "move back to the center"? How about Republicans stop being such right wing fascist Nazis and how about THEY move to the center? Mainstream Democrats already ARE the center, and personally, I hope we get more Mamdani/Sanders/AOC progressives stepping up to push out the do-nothing Jeffries and Schumers who are leading the Democrats now.

"Democrats need to move to the center" is the same energy as telling women not to wear short skirts so they don't get raped.
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Anonymous wrote:Can you offer an alternative? MAGA is 100x worse


NP here. Run a moderate Democrat in 2028 who has an impressive military record alike Kelly and isn’t going to chase away two-thirds of the party. Democrats have yo love back to the center and stop trying to shove candidates who are too liberal down everyone’s throats.


Why should Democrats "move back to the center"? How about Republicans stop being such right wing fascist Nazis and how about THEY move to the center? Mainstream Democrats already ARE the center, and personally, I hope we get more Mamdani/Sanders/AOC progressives stepping up to push out the do-nothing Jeffries and Schumers who are leading the Democrats now.

"Democrats need to move to the center" is the same energy as telling women not to wear short skirts so they don't get raped.


The people are intrigued by the AOC/Sanders types but wealthy political investors aren't on board for obvious reasons. Money wins.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can you offer an alternative? MAGA is 100x worse


NP here. Run a moderate Democrat in 2028 who has an impressive military record alike Kelly and isn’t going to chase away two-thirds of the party. Democrats have yo love back to the center and stop trying to shove candidates who are too liberal down everyone’s throats.


Why should Democrats "move back to the center"? How about Republicans stop being such right wing fascist Nazis and how about THEY move to the center? Mainstream Democrats already ARE the center, and personally, I hope we get more Mamdani/Sanders/AOC progressives stepping up to push out the do-nothing Jeffries and Schumers who are leading the Democrats now.

"Democrats need to move to the center" is the same energy as telling women not to wear short skirts so they don't get raped.
This is the answer, they go more right, we go more left. I really like the idea of having AOC on the ticket, at least she brings some real fight. Probably, too soon for Mamdani (but tell me I’m wrong), and Sanders is just too old and white.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can you offer an alternative? MAGA is 100x worse


NP here. Run a moderate Democrat in 2028 who has an impressive military record alike Kelly and isn’t going to chase away two-thirds of the party. Democrats have yo love back to the center and stop trying to shove candidates who are too liberal down everyone’s throats.


Why should Democrats "move back to the center"? How about Republicans stop being such right wing fascist Nazis and how about THEY move to the center? Mainstream Democrats already ARE the center, and personally, I hope we get more Mamdani/Sanders/AOC progressives stepping up to push out the do-nothing Jeffries and Schumers who are leading the Democrats now.

"Democrats need to move to the center" is the same energy as telling women not to wear short skirts so they don't get raped.


See post 18:22. There are some things many regardless of party are not on board with. I’m happy to give Mamdani a chance but not happy seeing him bring in Cea Weaved, Ms. “Do As I Say Nut As I Do@ self-hating white woman from Bryn Mawr who my guess is thinks many of us on this board have nerve owning private property. He’s not going to win majority support upholding crap like that.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can you offer an alternative? MAGA is 100x worse


NP here. Run a moderate Democrat in 2028 who has an impressive military record alike Kelly and isn’t going to chase away two-thirds of the party. Democrats have yo love back to the center and stop trying to shove candidates who are too liberal down everyone’s throats.


Why should Democrats "move back to the center"? How about Republicans stop being such right wing fascist Nazis and how about THEY move to the center? Mainstream Democrats already ARE the center, and personally, I hope we get more Mamdani/Sanders/AOC progressives stepping up to push out the do-nothing Jeffries and Schumers who are leading the Democrats now.

"Democrats need to move to the center" is the same energy as telling women not to wear short skirts so they don't get raped.


The people are intrigued by the AOC/Sanders types but wealthy political investors aren't on board for obvious reasons. Money wins.


Do we need intriguing candidates or candidates who believe in the Constitution and don’t need to throw hissy fits with the help of the National Guard when things don’t go their way? We know what Trump/MAGA does when people disagree with them. Now what about the far left (see Mao).
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can you offer an alternative? MAGA is 100x worse


NP here. Run a moderate Democrat in 2028 who has an impressive military record alike Kelly and isn’t going to chase away two-thirds of the party. Democrats have yo love back to the center and stop trying to shove candidates who are too liberal down everyone’s throats.


Why should Democrats "move back to the center"? How about Republicans stop being such right wing fascist Nazis and how about THEY move to the center? Mainstream Democrats already ARE the center, and personally, I hope we get more Mamdani/Sanders/AOC progressives stepping up to push out the do-nothing Jeffries and Schumers who are leading the Democrats now.

"Democrats need to move to the center" is the same energy as telling women not to wear short skirts so they don't get raped.
This is the answer, they go more right, we go more left. I really like the idea of having AOC on the ticket, at least she brings some real fight. Probably, too soon for Mamdani (but tell me I’m wrong), and Sanders is just too old and white.


Senator Kelly + VP AOC would be a ballsy ticket
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Anonymous wrote:The party worked in overdrive to get Zohran unelected. They got Eric Adams to drop out and Crooked Cuomo to ran as an indepdent.

The party couldnt call children being killed and starved a genocide.

When a worker making $10/hr asks for a living wage because everything is unaffordable, they never speak up. the corporate lobbyist money gets them back in line.

The Democrats dont offer anything. They win because the alterntive gets voted out not because they offered anything.

Most of this is BS. Mainstream Democratic positions are vastly more effective and humane than anything Republicans are doing. If you really think Democrats offer nothing, then you are blind.


Ok, list the top 10.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can you offer an alternative? MAGA is 100x worse


NP here. Run a moderate Democrat in 2028 who has an impressive military record alike Kelly and isn’t going to chase away two-thirds of the party. Democrats have yo love back to the center and stop trying to shove candidates who are too liberal down everyone’s throats.


Why should Democrats "move back to the center"? How about Republicans stop being such right wing fascist Nazis and how about THEY move to the center? Mainstream Democrats already ARE the center, and personally, I hope we get more Mamdani/Sanders/AOC progressives stepping up to push out the do-nothing Jeffries and Schumers who are leading the Democrats now.

"Democrats need to move to the center" is the same energy as telling women not to wear short skirts so they don't get raped.
This is the answer, they go more right, we go more left. I really like the idea of having AOC on the ticket, at least she brings some real fight. Probably, too soon for Mamdani (but tell me I’m wrong), and Sanders is just too old and white.


Senator Kelly + VP AOC would be a ballsy ticket


+1 the country needs to be carefully eased out of shark-infested waters. We’re in trouble.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can you offer an alternative? MAGA is 100x worse


NP here. Run a moderate Democrat in 2028 who has an impressive military record alike Kelly and isn’t going to chase away two-thirds of the party. Democrats have yo love back to the center and stop trying to shove candidates who are too liberal down everyone’s throats.


Why should Democrats "move back to the center"? How about Republicans stop being such right wing fascist Nazis and how about THEY move to the center? Mainstream Democrats already ARE the center, and personally, I hope we get more Mamdani/Sanders/AOC progressives stepping up to push out the do-nothing Jeffries and Schumers who are leading the Democrats now.

"Democrats need to move to the center" is the same energy as telling women not to wear short skirts so they don't get raped.


+10000000

Republicans need to Mind their own business and clean out their pedo problem.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:No backbone, no spine.

Cannot call a pedophile a pedophile

Look at bought out Hackeem Jefferies. A line of lobbyists at his front door.

And when Bernie, who spoke the truth, began liberating the party, all the deep state billionaires donors who decide elections got behind bought out shill Hillary.

When Zohran gained grass root popularity, the party worked overtime to get him to lose.

This party sucks.


agree. they have no vision or platform other than identify politics and hating Trump. and they all want to do is prove how far left they have gone. if they ran a moderate, likeable candidate like MLK, Bill Clinton or JFK they would win the Presidency in a landslide. But Kamala Harris, Ilhan Omar, or Hakeem Jeffries, not so much. sad times to be a Democrat.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can you offer an alternative? MAGA is 100x worse


NP here. Run a moderate Democrat in 2028 who has an impressive military record alike Kelly and isn’t going to chase away two-thirds of the party. Democrats have yo love back to the center and stop trying to shove candidates who are too liberal down everyone’s throats.


Why should Democrats "move back to the center"? How about Republicans stop being such right wing fascist Nazis and how about THEY move to the center? Mainstream Democrats already ARE the center, and personally, I hope we get more Mamdani/Sanders/AOC progressives stepping up to push out the do-nothing Jeffries and Schumers who are leading the Democrats now.

"Democrats need to move to the center" is the same energy as telling women not to wear short skirts so they don't get raped.
This is the answer, they go more right, we go more left. I really like the idea of having AOC on the ticket, at least she brings some real fight. Probably, too soon for Mamdani (but tell me I’m wrong), and Sanders is just too old and white.


Senator Kelly + VP AOC would be a ballsy ticket


+1 the country needs to be carefully eased out of shark-infested waters. We’re in trouble.


Mark Kelly is a great candidate but AOC could never ever win unfortunately.

We need two white males as much as I hate typing that.

Most likely won't matter Trump's not leaving and even if he keels over naturally the Repuke Party of Putin isn't leaving.
Elections are over people. Don't believe me you haven't been watching what they have been doing behind the scenes.

SCOTUS also just opened that door for them to take over either way. Even if elections do happen SCOTUS has now made it they can sue and sue and sue until they get their way. Effectively the US is done with elections by 2026.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Instead of name calling or being "tough," maybe Ds should re-think stuff like the following. Then they might have a long-term chance.

- letting illegal immigrants enter and stay
- affirmative action
- ignoring middle america
- teaching elementary and middle school kids about gay and trans stuff

Instead, they can focus on making sure everyone in america has economic opportunity and worker protections, access to high quality schools, access to good health care, good infrastructure, and national security.



“Gay stuff”. MAGA obsesses over this nonstop and have deluded themselves into believing it’s THE central plank of the Democratic Party platform. To the point where they can’t even accurately describe it. It’s just, you know. Gay stuff. Trans stuff. Rainbow thingies. Zesty whatchamacallits. In our schools!!!

I think they’re terrified that a gay kid might feel seen and validated.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can you offer an alternative? MAGA is 100x worse


NP here. Run a moderate Democrat in 2028 who has an impressive military record alike Kelly and isn’t going to chase away two-thirds of the party. Democrats have yo love back to the center and stop trying to shove candidates who are too liberal down everyone’s throats.


Why should Democrats "move back to the center"? How about Republicans stop being such right wing fascist Nazis and how about THEY move to the center? Mainstream Democrats already ARE the center, and personally, I hope we get more Mamdani/Sanders/AOC progressives stepping up to push out the do-nothing Jeffries and Schumers who are leading the Democrats now.

"Democrats need to move to the center" is the same energy as telling women not to wear short skirts so they don't get raped.


+10000000

Republicans need to Mind their own business and clean out their pedo problem.


Democrats need to pull over the Republicans who are disgusted by the pedo problem. If Trump is still alive in three years he will most likely contest the election if the R loses, especially if it’s very close. Would be best not to go there again. But it can’t just be about running from pedos.
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