So you support forcing women that were raped to have an unwanted pregnancy? This is the reality of ending roe v wade and the current abortion restrictions. If you are against abortion altogether and think people should be forced to carry unwanted pregnancies that occurred due to violence, then just admit that. Right now it seems like you are avoiding the actual topic and attempting to deflect attention from the terrible situation that military rape victims are now in due to policy choices. Dems do not control any lever of government right now so blaming them for this policy is nonsensical and inaccurate. |
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So uneducated |
| It’s odd to me that so many defenders of Roe v. Wade say that abortion shouldn’t be a matter for public laws. The pageantry of Roe was that we already had a public law (the 14th Amendment) that established a somewhat elaborate taxonomy of when abortion was allowed and when it could be restricted. Of course, you could say that that’s all BS and that Roe was just judicial fiat— but then you’re sounding a lot like Dobbs! |
Wow, that's some weird priorities. How many women actually run on their school's track team? Hilarious. Most women who get abortions don't start out in life with wanting an abortion. Sh(t happens, like this woman in OP's post. I have my tubes tied after having kids, and I'm in menopause so I'll never need an abortion, but I have a DD, and should something happen, like if she were raped, or her pregnancy is going to impact her health, I'd want her to have options. Thankfully, we live in a blue state And I used to be a conservative. I'm not for trans women in women's bathrooms or locker rooms, but this is low on my priority list. It's bizarre for any woman to think being able to run on a woman's track team without trans people is more important than bodily autonomy. |
NP. I wonder how they will feel about that while they are bleeding out or septic from a doomed pregnancy, waiting on a doctor to decide that they are close enough to death to warrant an abortion. If you think this isn't happening now, you're kidding yourself. |
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I have multiple friends who live in southern then states that their their OBGYN tell them not to give birth in their state. They basically said if you have a complication during the pregnancy, the heartbeat bills make it so that doctors are unable to treat you until you are coding. They have to wait until you are almost dead to treat you, so there is good chance you won't survive and it's just not worth the risk. |
You are vastly underestimating how painful a statement that is to women who have suffered a miscarriage. Cruel. |
I’m one of those women. I’ve had several miscarriages. No abortions. In a miscarriage, the baby isn’t viable and will not live on its own. With an abortion, a mother is choosing to terminate the baby’s life. That baby would have grown to live on its own. They are quite different. |
I am PP and I’m sorry if this was painful to you. I had 2 miscarriages and remember being taken aback when I saw “spontaneous abortion” on my records. They were indeed sad experiences and would have been even harder if I had been denied the care I needed. |
Im the PP from 17:47. My miscarriage is listed in my medical record as a "spontaneous abortion". Thats the actual medical terminology for a miscarriage. I was surprised to see it listed as such, but the terminology is accurate. I also had an ectopic pregnancy, and the treatment for that (I was given a series of methotrexate shots to dissolve it and narrowly avoided surgery) is, in fact, listed as an abortion. I mean, I guess it was my choice to have it but, since the other option was hemorrhage and/or death, I am very thankful that the procedure was available. I didn’t have to jump through hoops, run a gauntlet of "pro-life" protesters, or wait until I was near death for a life-saving procedure. I come from a family of veterans. What a shame that our government no longer deems such health care of value to saving the lives of women. |
There are many circumstances where a pregnancy is not viable or poses a significant risk to life of the mother. There is no reasonable to way to determine what amount of risk (to her life) is acceptable for a woman to be forced to take. That should be up to the individual to determine what level of risk is acceptable to them. |
Much of what is posted on this forum are fake viral claims. |
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2nd semester sepsis rates increased 50% in TX after the over turning of Roe vs Wade.
https://www.propublica.org/article/texas-abortion-ban-sepsis-maternal-mortality-analysis |