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Anonymous wrote:States are literally forcing women to give birth to children of their rapist! Why are people not more upset about this. Now women in the military are also being forced to give birth if they are raped. Wtf
https://www.ms.now/news/abortion-ban-veterans-affairs-va


It continues to surprise me that women are not more upset about the erosion of abortion rights.


Not all women view abortion rights as central to women's rights. If you can read that without getting really upset, let me continue: I believe the main reason femininism is losing its appeal among younger women has to do with abortion and feminism being synonymous. You can believe in, for example, women being able to vote, work, own property, be independent etc while also believing abortion is murder.


Just stop.....your body is yours and mine is mine. You don't get a say. If you can read past that without getting upset then we can talk. If not you are nothing but a close minded MAGA. Let me explain it in simple terms.....if someone needs or wants an abortion they should have that right-It's their body. If you or someone else does not believe in abortion you or someone else should stick to your beliefs and never do that but you DO NOT get to decide about someone else's body and if you are a woman it should disgust you that "men" in office who prove every day that they are not true christians are trying to control women and their bodies. You either believe in women having choices or you don't. Because first it's abortion but soon it will be your right to vote your right to work your right to own property. Open your eyes. You do you and others should be able to make their own choices that is what having rights means.

I wonder how many abortions Epstein and trump and Bannon have paid for in last year.....things that make you go hmmmmmmm. They are such good "christians"


Apparently, STATES do get to decide per the Supreme Court ruling.

BTW, you had abortion to the first trimester. But then you had to keep pushing it out to the 9th month on demand, and play games to make sure the tax payer fund it. See the Hyde amendment. it's very real.

We wouldn't be here if you hadn't kept pushing to get your way.


That is just not true. Abortion was largely banned everywhere with very limited exceptions before Roe v Wade. Before 1973, there was no first trimester exception for the majority of states. It was almost entirely dependent on whether your (usually) male doctor felt that the risk of you dying was too high for them to be comfortable with. You are just intentionally making things up or are not knowledgable about what the situation was like before 1973. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Map_of_US_abortion_laws_pre-1973.svg


I said you had abortion to the first Trimester. YOU felt you had to somehow twist it with adding a year. Roe vs. Wade existed. Do not add words and then attribute them to me.



So you support forcing women that were raped to have an unwanted pregnancy? This is the reality of ending roe v wade and the current abortion restrictions. If you are against abortion altogether and think people should be forced to carry unwanted pregnancies that occurred due to violence, then just admit that. Right now it seems like you are avoiding the actual topic and attempting to deflect attention from the terrible situation that military rape victims are now in due to policy choices. Dems do not control any lever of government right now so blaming them for this policy is nonsensical and inaccurate.
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Anonymous wrote:I listen to a lot of right wing commentators. They are definitely reconsidering women's rights. For example, the right to vote- many want to restrict voting rights to people who own real estate or have served in the military.



For everyone or just women?

I mean, both repulsive, but just curious.


I've heard multiple talk about how women shouldn't vote and then they immediately follow it up with explaining that they think a lot of people shouldn't vote. To be very clear, these are far right wing. But names you would recognize.


They believe their wives should vote because they follow the "mans lead" I had a friend like this it made we want to vomit. Read the story about North Carolina letting husbands and wives vote in the same booth....we all know why they wanted that and if you don't pull your head out of the sand. Also read abut Pete Hegseths church and his disgusting pastor Doug Wilson. He believes women belong in the kitchen answering to men. His hope and work is centered around making America white and male again. Seriously if you have time search Doug Wilson.


It’s nothing more than the most pathetic DEI.

“Wah, we can’t compete with brown people and women of all colors! It’s too hard to be smart! I’m going to stamp my little feet until they can’t vote!”


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Anonymous wrote:States are literally forcing women to give birth to children of their rapist! Why are people not more upset about this. Now women in the military are also being forced to give birth if they are raped. Wtf
https://www.ms.now/news/abortion-ban-veterans-affairs-va


It continues to surprise me that women are not more upset about the erosion of abortion rights.


Not all women view abortion rights as central to women's rights. If you can read that without getting really upset, let me continue: I believe the main reason femininism is losing its appeal among younger women has to do with abortion and feminism being synonymous. You can believe in, for example, women being able to vote, work, own property, be independent etc while also believing abortion is murder.


Just stop.....your body is yours and mine is mine. You don't get a say. If you can read past that without getting upset then we can talk. If not you are nothing but a close minded MAGA. Let me explain it in simple terms.....if someone needs or wants an abortion they should have that right-It's their body. If you or someone else does not believe in abortion you or someone else should stick to your beliefs and never do that but you DO NOT get to decide about someone else's body and if you are a woman it should disgust you that "men" in office who prove every day that they are not true christians are trying to control women and their bodies. You either believe in women having choices or you don't. Because first it's abortion but soon it will be your right to vote your right to work your right to own property. Open your eyes. You do you and others should be able to make their own choices that is what having rights means.

I wonder how many abortions Epstein and trump and Bannon have paid for in last year.....things that make you go hmmmmmmm. They are such good "christians"


Apparently, STATES do get to decide per the Supreme Court ruling.

BTW, you had abortion to the first trimester. But then you had to keep pushing it out to the 9th month on demand, and play games to make sure the tax payer fund it. See the Hyde amendment. it's very real.

We wouldn't be here if you hadn't kept pushing to get your way.


So uneducated
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It’s odd to me that so many defenders of Roe v. Wade say that abortion shouldn’t be a matter for public laws. The pageantry of Roe was that we already had a public law (the 14th Amendment) that established a somewhat elaborate taxonomy of when abortion was allowed and when it could be restricted. Of course, you could say that that’s all BS and that Roe was just judicial fiat— but then you’re sounding a lot like Dobbs!
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Anonymous wrote:States are literally forcing women to give birth to children of their rapist! Why are people not more upset about this. Now women in the military are also being forced to give birth if they are raped. Wtf
https://www.ms.now/news/abortion-ban-veterans-affairs-va


It continues to surprise me that women are not more upset about the erosion of abortion rights.


Maybe because we have a party that is allowing men into our bathrooms and women’s sports teams.

? Is that really worth losing your the rights to your body?



Women still have the rights to their body.
Believe it nor not, there are many women who would rather run on their school’s track team than have abortions.

Wow, that's some weird priorities. How many women actually run on their school's track team? Hilarious.

Most women who get abortions don't start out in life with wanting an abortion. Sh(t happens, like this woman in OP's post.

I have my tubes tied after having kids, and I'm in menopause so I'll never need an abortion, but I have a DD, and should something happen, like if she were raped, or her pregnancy is going to impact her health, I'd want her to have options. Thankfully, we live in a blue state

And I used to be a conservative. I'm not for trans women in women's bathrooms or locker rooms, but this is low on my priority list. It's bizarre for any woman to think being able to run on a woman's track team without trans people is more important than bodily autonomy.
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Anonymous wrote:States are literally forcing women to give birth to children of their rapist! Why are people not more upset about this. Now women in the military are also being forced to give birth if they are raped. Wtf
https://www.ms.now/news/abortion-ban-veterans-affairs-va


It continues to surprise me that women are not more upset about the erosion of abortion rights.


Maybe because we have a party that is allowing men into our bathrooms and women’s sports teams.

? Is that really worth losing your the rights to your body?



Women still have the rights to their body.
Believe it nor not, there are many women who would rather run on their school’s track team than have abortions.


NP. I wonder how they will feel about that while they are bleeding out or septic from a doomed pregnancy, waiting on a doctor to decide that they are close enough to death to warrant an abortion.
If you think this isn't happening now, you're kidding yourself.
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Anonymous wrote:States are literally forcing women to give birth to children of their rapist! Why are people not more upset about this. Now women in the military are also being forced to give birth if they are raped. Wtf
https://www.ms.now/news/abortion-ban-veterans-affairs-va


It continues to surprise me that women are not more upset about the erosion of abortion rights.


Maybe because we have a party that is allowing men into our bathrooms and women’s sports teams.

? Is that really worth losing your the rights to your body?


I have multiple friends who live in southern then states that have had their OBGYN tell them not to give birth in their state. They basically said if you have a complication during the pregnancy, the heartbeat bills make it so that doctors are unable to treat you until you are coding. They have to wait until you are almost dead to treat you, so there is good chance you won't survive and it's just not worth the risk.


Women still have the rights to their body.
Believe it nor not, there are many women who would rather run on their school’s track team than have abortions.


NP. I wonder how they will feel about that while they are bleeding out or septic from a doomed pregnancy, waiting on a doctor to decide that they are close enough to death to warrant an abortion.
If you think this isn't happening now, you're kidding yourself.
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Anonymous wrote:States are literally forcing women to give birth to children of their rapist! Why are people not more upset about this. Now women in the military are also being forced to give birth if they are raped. Wtf
https://www.ms.now/news/abortion-ban-veterans-affairs-va


It continues to surprise me that women are not more upset about the erosion of abortion rights.


Maybe because we have a party that is allowing men into our bathrooms and women’s sports teams.

? Is that really worth losing your the rights to your body?



Women still have the rights to their body.
Believe it nor not, there are many women who would rather run on their school’s track team than have abortions.


NP. I wonder how they will feel about that while they are bleeding out or septic from a doomed pregnancy, waiting on a doctor to decide that they are close enough to death to warrant an abortion.
If you think this isn't happening now, you're kidding yourself.


I have multiple friends who live in southern then states that their their OBGYN tell them not to give birth in their state. They basically said if you have a complication during the pregnancy, the heartbeat bills make it so that doctors are unable to treat you until you are coding. They have to wait until you are almost dead to treat you, so there is good chance you won't survive and it's just not worth the risk.
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Anonymous wrote:States are literally forcing women to give birth to children of their rapist! Why are people not more upset about this. Now women in the military are also being forced to give birth if they are raped. Wtf
https://www.ms.now/news/abortion-ban-veterans-affairs-va


It continues to surprise me that women are not more upset about the erosion of abortion rights.


Maybe because we have a party that is allowing men into our bathrooms and women’s sports teams.

? Is that really worth losing your the rights to your body?



Women still have the rights to their body.
Believe it nor not, there are many women who would rather run on their school’s track team than have abortions.


I think you are vastly underestimating the number of women who will need abortion care in their lives. Miscarriages are abortions, you know. And you are vastly overestimating the number of trans people if you think there will be no spots left for non trans people on the track team.


You are vastly underestimating how painful a statement that is to women who have suffered a miscarriage. Cruel.
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Anonymous wrote:States are literally forcing women to give birth to children of their rapist! Why are people not more upset about this. Now women in the military are also being forced to give birth if they are raped. Wtf
https://www.ms.now/news/abortion-ban-veterans-affairs-va


It continues to surprise me that women are not more upset about the erosion of abortion rights.


Maybe because we have a party that is allowing men into our bathrooms and women’s sports teams.

? Is that really worth losing your the rights to your body?



Women still have the rights to their body.
Believe it nor not, there are many women who would rather run on their school’s track team than have abortions.


I think you are vastly underestimating the number of women who will need abortion care in their lives. Miscarriages are abortions, you know. And you are vastly overestimating the number of trans people if you think there will be no spots left for non trans people on the track team.


You are vastly underestimating how painful a statement that is to women who have suffered a miscarriage. Cruel.


I’m one of those women. I’ve had several miscarriages. No abortions.

In a miscarriage, the baby isn’t viable and will not live on its own. With an abortion, a mother is choosing to terminate the baby’s life. That baby would have grown to live on its own.

They are quite different.
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Anonymous wrote:States are literally forcing women to give birth to children of their rapist! Why are people not more upset about this. Now women in the military are also being forced to give birth if they are raped. Wtf
https://www.ms.now/news/abortion-ban-veterans-affairs-va


It continues to surprise me that women are not more upset about the erosion of abortion rights.


Maybe because we have a party that is allowing men into our bathrooms and women’s sports teams.

? Is that really worth losing your the rights to your body?



Women still have the rights to their body.
Believe it nor not, there are many women who would rather run on their school’s track team than have abortions.


I think you are vastly underestimating the number of women who will need abortion care in their lives. Miscarriages are abortions, you know. And you are vastly overestimating the number of trans people if you think there will be no spots left for non trans people on the track team.


You are vastly underestimating how painful a statement that is to women who have suffered a miscarriage. Cruel.


I am PP and I’m sorry if this was painful to you. I had 2 miscarriages and remember being taken aback when I saw “spontaneous abortion” on my records. They were indeed sad experiences and would have been even harder if I had been denied the care I needed.
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Anonymous wrote:States are literally forcing women to give birth to children of their rapist! Why are people not more upset about this. Now women in the military are also being forced to give birth if they are raped. Wtf
https://www.ms.now/news/abortion-ban-veterans-affairs-va


It continues to surprise me that women are not more upset about the erosion of abortion rights.


Maybe because we have a party that is allowing men into our bathrooms and women’s sports teams.

? Is that really worth losing your the rights to your body?



Women still have the rights to their body.
Believe it nor not, there are many women who would rather run on their school’s track team than have abortions.


I think you are vastly underestimating the number of women who will need abortion care in their lives. Miscarriages are abortions, you know. And you are vastly overestimating the number of trans people if you think there will be no spots left for non trans people on the track team.


You are vastly underestimating how painful a statement that is to women who have suffered a miscarriage. Cruel.


Im the PP from 17:47. My miscarriage is listed in my medical record as a "spontaneous abortion". Thats the actual medical terminology for a miscarriage. I was surprised to see it listed as such, but the terminology is accurate.
I also had an ectopic pregnancy, and the treatment for that (I was given a series of methotrexate shots to dissolve it and narrowly avoided surgery) is, in fact, listed as an abortion. I mean, I guess it was my choice to have it but, since the other option was hemorrhage and/or death, I am very thankful that the procedure was available. I didn’t have to jump through hoops, run a gauntlet of "pro-life" protesters, or wait until I was near death for a life-saving procedure.
I come from a family of veterans. What a shame that our government no longer deems such health care of value to saving the lives of women.
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Anonymous wrote:States are literally forcing women to give birth to children of their rapist! Why are people not more upset about this. Now women in the military are also being forced to give birth if they are raped. Wtf
https://www.ms.now/news/abortion-ban-veterans-affairs-va


It continues to surprise me that women are not more upset about the erosion of abortion rights.


Maybe because we have a party that is allowing men into our bathrooms and women’s sports teams.

? Is that really worth losing your the rights to your body?



Women still have the rights to their body.
Believe it nor not, there are many women who would rather run on their school’s track team than have abortions.


I think you are vastly underestimating the number of women who will need abortion care in their lives. Miscarriages are abortions, you know. And you are vastly overestimating the number of trans people if you think there will be no spots left for non trans people on the track team.


You are vastly underestimating how painful a statement that is to women who have suffered a miscarriage. Cruel.


I’m one of those women. I’ve had several miscarriages. No abortions.

In a miscarriage, the baby isn’t viable and will not live on its own. With an abortion, a mother is choosing to terminate the baby’s life. That baby would have grown to live on its own.

They are quite different.


There are many circumstances where a pregnancy is not viable or poses a significant risk to life of the mother. There is no reasonable to way to determine what amount of risk (to her life) is acceptable for a woman to be forced to take. That should be up to the individual to determine what level of risk is acceptable to them.
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Anonymous wrote:Plan 2025 includes a section on cancelling credit cards for every woman in America !


I am no fan of Project 2025, but this is a fake viral claim.


Much of what is posted on this forum are fake viral claims.
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2nd semester sepsis rates increased 50% in TX after the over turning of Roe vs Wade.


https://www.propublica.org/article/texas-abortion-ban-sepsis-maternal-mortality-analysis
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