Handmaids Tale is Already Here

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry, but plenty of black and brown men voted for Trump over Harris. Not sure why you are targeting white women as the evil gaslighters.

Well, you are without question a gaslighter. A greater percentage of white women voted for Trump over Clinton (47% vs 45%), Trump over Biden (53% vs 45%), and Trump over Harris (51% vs 47%). Black men voted for Clinton, a white woman who described them as subhuman superpredators who needed to be brought to heed, over Trump (86% vs 14%), Biden over Trump (87% vs 12%), and Harris over Trump (75% vs 21%). Black men represent barely five percent of the national electorate, and you want to pretend that the one-fifth of that five percent who voted for Trump in 2024 is plenty? Thank you for Example #52836623 that Black Lives Don't Matter But White Feelings Always Do.

Twice, black men voted overwhelmingly for a woman to become president of the United States. Twice, a hell of lot more white women voted for themselves. And thrice, too many white women who didn't vote for Trump made excuses for their sisters who did.

Why are you picking and choosing which gener and race to hate on...what about Hispanic women and men and their vote?

NP I think they are FAFO right now, no need to twist the knife. Maybe, just maybe they get it now. I think PPP is stating that even now, Trump's white women voters don't get it and many of their sisters and friends make excuses for them. If you go by social media, white women who voted for Trump are lamenting and crying about their loss of jobs, healthcare, near death experiences from carrying dead fetuses, etc. and yet these same women don't fault Trump and would vote for him a third time, if allowed. Not too many Brown and Black Hispanics who voted for Trump would give him another vote. Why, because they know they are targeted for roundup and possible deportation, citizen thou they may be.

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As with all things political on this board, it always comes down to race. You folks need to drop the identity crap.

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Anonymous wrote:Women's voted for this. White women specifically. It was more important to them to align themselves with white supremacy, hunt immigrants, and subjugate Black people than it was to protect the rule of law and their own rights. Why are people not more upset? I'm not going to continue twisting myself into knots trying to protect you morons from the consequences of your moronic choices. Clearly, we need to suffer for a bit.

Please stop blaming women. Men voted for Trump in greater numbers. But let's overall stop blaming and dividing each other- thats how tyranny wins.

I will not. White women never want to get honest about their role in all this, and I'm tired of the gaslighting. You're with us when it suits you and against us when white supremacy benefits you, and THAT is why tyranny won, and will continue to win until white America decides a functioning government and society is worth sharing this country and this planet with brown people.

Let's get honest, honey. I'm not obligated to vote for candidates that black women like. Period. It's mind blowing that you think anyone is obligated to vote the way anyone else wants them to. It's a democracy, you can win votes the usual way, through persuasion.

DP Something that is always inaccurately stated. The USA is not a democracy. It is a republic. We don't have one person, one vote. All votes are not equal. And what we do vote for is for someone else to speak on our behalf, not us choosing to speak for ourselves.

This political scientist and lawyer is SO SICK of this ridiculous pinhead MAGA talking point.

The USA is a representative democratic republic - a form of DEMOCRACY. You have to be inbred level stupid to assert that the USA isn't a democracy. You have to be a person who didn't pay attention to school past the 4th grade. SHUT UP WITH THIS STUPID FALSE ASSERTION ALREADY! Moron.

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Anonymous wrote:Women's voted for this. White women specifically. It was more important to them to align themselves with white supremacy, hunt immigrants, and subjugate Black people than it was to protect the rule of law and their own rights. Why are people not more upset? I'm not going to continue twisting myself into knots trying to protect you morons from the consequences of your moronic choices. Clearly, we need to suffer for a bit.

Please stop blaming women. Men voted for Trump in greater numbers. But let's overall stop blaming and dividing each other- thats how tyranny wins.

I will not. White women never want to get honest about their role in all this, and I'm tired of the gaslighting. You're with us when it suits you and against us when white supremacy benefits you, and THAT is why tyranny won, and will continue to win until white America decides a functioning government and society is worth sharing this country and this planet with brown people.

Let's get honest, honey. I'm not obligated to vote for candidates that black women like. Period. It's mind blowing that you think anyone is obligated to vote the way anyone else wants them to. It's a democracy, you can win votes the usual way, through persuasion.

DP Something that is always inaccurately stated. The USA is not a democracy. It is a republic. We don't have one person, one vote. All votes are not equal. And what we do vote for is for someone else to speak on our behalf, not us choosing to speak for ourselves.

This political scientist and lawyer is SO SICK of this ridiculous pinhead MAGA talking point.

The USA is a representative democratic republic - a form of DEMOCRACY. You have to be inbred level stupid to assert that the USA isn't a democracy. You have to be a person who didn't pay attention to school past the 4th grade. SHUT UP WITH THIS STUPID FALSE ASSERTION ALREADY! Moron.

Constitutional Republic

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When you're losing, redefine terms.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh no, women have to travel to another state to abort their babies. A true dystopia.

Sounds like you have never met an actual poor person in your life.

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Anonymous wrote:Women's voted for this. White women specifically. It was more important to them to align themselves with white supremacy, hunt immigrants, and subjugate Black people than it was to protect the rule of law and their own rights. Why are people not more upset? I'm not going to continue twisting myself into knots trying to protect you morons from the consequences of your moronic choices. Clearly, we need to suffer for a bit.

Please stop blaming women. Men voted for Trump in greater numbers. But let's overall stop blaming and dividing each other- thats how tyranny wins.

I will not. White women never want to get honest about their role in all this, and I'm tired of the gaslighting. You're with us when it suits you and against us when white supremacy benefits you, and THAT is why tyranny won, and will continue to win until white America decides a functioning government and society is worth sharing this country and this planet with brown people.

Let's get honest, honey. I'm not obligated to vote for candidates that black women like. Period. It's mind blowing that you think anyone is obligated to vote the way anyone else wants them to. It's a democracy, you can win votes the usual way, through persuasion.

DP Something that is always inaccurately stated. The USA is not a democracy. It is a republic. We don't have one person, one vote. All votes are not equal. And what we do vote for is for someone else to speak on our behalf, not us choosing to speak for ourselves.

This political scientist and lawyer is SO SICK of this ridiculous pinhead MAGA talking point.

The USA is a representative democratic republic - a form of DEMOCRACY. You have to be inbred level stupid to assert that the USA isn't a democracy. You have to be a person who didn't pay attention to school past the 4th grade. SHUT UP WITH THIS STUPID FALSE ASSERTION ALREADY! Moron.

Constitutional Republic

Which is a form of DEMOCRACY.

Moron.

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Anonymous wrote:Women's voted for this. White women specifically. It was more important to them to align themselves with white supremacy, hunt immigrants, and subjugate Black people than it was to protect the rule of law and their own rights. Why are people not more upset? I'm not going to continue twisting myself into knots trying to protect you morons from the consequences of your moronic choices. Clearly, we need to suffer for a bit.

Please stop blaming women. Men voted for Trump in greater numbers. But let's overall stop blaming and dividing each other- thats how tyranny wins.

I will not. White women never want to get honest about their role in all this, and I'm tired of the gaslighting. You're with us when it suits you and against us when white supremacy benefits you, and THAT is why tyranny won, and will continue to win until white America decides a functioning government and society is worth sharing this country and this planet with brown people.

Let's get honest, honey. I'm not obligated to vote for candidates that black women like. Period. It's mind blowing that you think anyone is obligated to vote the way anyone else wants them to. It's a democracy, you can win votes the usual way, through persuasion.

DP Something that is always inaccurately stated. The USA is not a democracy. It is a republic. We don't have one person, one vote. All votes are not equal. And what we do vote for is for someone else to speak on our behalf, not us choosing to speak for ourselves.

This political scientist and lawyer is SO SICK of this ridiculous pinhead MAGA talking point.

The USA is a representative democratic republic - a form of DEMOCRACY. You have to be inbred level stupid to assert that the USA isn't a democracy. You have to be a person who didn't pay attention to school past the 4th grade. SHUT UP WITH THIS STUPID FALSE ASSERTION ALREADY! Moron.

Constitutional Republic

Which is a form of DEMOCRACY.

Moron.

Call it whatever you want. I'm still not going to the voting booth and saying "how do black women want me to vote?" You vote for your interests and I'll vote for mine.

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Anonymous wrote:Women's voted for this. White women specifically. It was more important to them to align themselves with white supremacy, hunt immigrants, and subjugate Black people than it was to protect the rule of law and their own rights. Why are people not more upset? I'm not going to continue twisting myself into knots trying to protect you morons from the consequences of your moronic choices. Clearly, we need to suffer for a bit.

Please stop blaming women. Men voted for Trump in greater numbers. But let's overall stop blaming and dividing each other- thats how tyranny wins.

I will not. White women never want to get honest about their role in all this, and I'm tired of the gaslighting. You're with us when it suits you and against us when white supremacy benefits you, and THAT is why tyranny won, and will continue to win until white America decides a functioning government and society is worth sharing this country and this planet with brown people.

Let's get honest, honey. I'm not obligated to vote for candidates that black women like. Period. It's mind blowing that you think anyone is obligated to vote the way anyone else wants them to. It's a democracy, you can win votes the usual way, through persuasion.

DP Something that is always inaccurately stated. The USA is not a democracy. It is a republic. We don't have one person, one vote. All votes are not equal. And what we do vote for is for someone else to speak on our behalf, not us choosing to speak for ourselves.

This political scientist and lawyer is SO SICK of this ridiculous pinhead MAGA talking point.

The USA is a representative democratic republic - a form of DEMOCRACY. You have to be inbred level stupid to assert that the USA isn't a democracy. You have to be a person who didn't pay attention to school past the 4th grade. SHUT UP WITH THIS STUPID FALSE ASSERTION ALREADY! Moron.

Constitutional Republic

Which is a form of DEMOCRACY.

Moron.

Call it whatever you want. I'm still not going to the voting booth and saying "how do black women want me to vote?" You vote for your interests and I'll vote for mine.

That issue goes to your adherence to Christian principles, if you have any faith in that regard. Or if you are an atheist, it goes to basic human decency.

In either regard we have an obligation to consider our neighbors and not to simply pursue self interest in our lives. But of course many, many people are entirely and solely self interested and that is why our world continues to be full of crappiness and evil.

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Anonymous wrote:Women's voted for this. White women specifically. It was more important to them to align themselves with white supremacy, hunt immigrants, and subjugate Black people than it was to protect the rule of law and their own rights. Why are people not more upset? I'm not going to continue twisting myself into knots trying to protect you morons from the consequences of your moronic choices. Clearly, we need to suffer for a bit.

Please stop blaming women. Men voted for Trump in greater numbers. But let's overall stop blaming and dividing each other- thats how tyranny wins.

I will not. White women never want to get honest about their role in all this, and I'm tired of the gaslighting. You're with us when it suits you and against us when white supremacy benefits you, and THAT is why tyranny won, and will continue to win until white America decides a functioning government and society is worth sharing this country and this planet with brown people.

Let's get honest, honey. I'm not obligated to vote for candidates that black women like. Period. It's mind blowing that you think anyone is obligated to vote the way anyone else wants them to. It's a democracy, you can win votes the usual way, through persuasion.

DP Something that is always inaccurately stated. The USA is not a democracy. It is a republic. We don't have one person, one vote. All votes are not equal. And what we do vote for is for someone else to speak on our behalf, not us choosing to speak for ourselves.

This political scientist and lawyer is SO SICK of this ridiculous pinhead MAGA talking point.

The USA is a representative democratic republic - a form of DEMOCRACY. You have to be inbred level stupid to assert that the USA isn't a democracy. You have to be a person who didn't pay attention to school past the 4th grade. SHUT UP WITH THIS STUPID FALSE ASSERTION ALREADY! Moron.

Where in the Constitution is the word Democracy. I can point to where the word Republic is, and I think you are dumb ASF. Big deal that you're an attorney, so is thirty to forty percent of the DMV. You must be a child lawyer using that as a brag. Haha.

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Anonymous wrote:States are literally forcing women to give birth to children of their rapist! Why are people not more upset about this. Now women in the military are also being forced to give birth if they are raped. Wtf
https://www.ms.now/news/abortion-ban-veterans-affairs-va

It continues to surprise me that women are not more upset about the erosion of abortion rights.

Maybe because we have a party that is allowing men into our bathrooms and women’s sports teams.

? Is that really worth losing your the rights to your body?

Women still have the rights to their body.
Believe it nor not, there are many women who would rather run on their school’s track team than have abortions.

I think you are vastly underestimating the number of women who will need abortion care in their lives. Miscarriages are abortions, you know. And you are vastly overestimating the number of trans people if you think there will be no spots left for non trans people on the track team.

You are vastly underestimating how painful a statement that is to women who have suffered a miscarriage. Cruel.

I’ve suffered a miscarriage in the second trimester. I also had an abortion.

Miscarriage is a spontaneous abortion of a pregnancy. Elective abortion is the same thing, but planned. Nature - or depending on your perspective, God - is the biggest abortionist of all. There are far more spontaneous abortions than elective abortions every year, as 25% of known pregnancies end in miscarriage. Many pregnancies miscarry before the woman ever knows she is pregnant.

Why does anyone love God when God kills so very many babies, pray tell?

There is nothing in the Bible about abortion. You would think if God hated abortion, He might have spent a sentence or two condemning what was already a known practice of humankind back in the times that the books of the Bible were being written by men to control others.

It’s all a sickening political tool devised to inflame the voting base and control women.

I’m a new poster. I offer this not from a place of judgment or condemnation but because I think it is important to look head on at the moral issues surrounding abortion given that the stakes are high.

While, to the best of my knowledge, you are correct that the Bible does not contain a verse expressly discussing abortion qua abortion, it is also the case that one of the dominant themes of the Bible is that obedience to God means repudiating the practices of child sacrifice that were common place in the Ancient Near East. The question, then, is whether the same principle that led to the condemnation of those practices is broad enough to reach abortion writ large. In my judgment, early Christian believers probably would have said “yes.” The Didache is one of the earliest Christian writings not found in the Bible, and it dates back to somewhere between 50 and 120 AD suggesting that it may well reflect the religious views of contemporaries of Jesus. It expressly says “you shall not murder a child by abortion nor kill that which is born.” In my judgment, this conclusion makes sense and aligns with both the thrust of scripture as I understand it and a visceral intuition that I have that the voluntary termination of human life is almost always wrong.

I am not here to judge or condemn you, but it sounds like you’ve got complicated feelings towards God. I’d urge you to spend a little uncomplicated time in prayer. God is love, and there’s no sin too big for Him to forgive. Good luck and God bless you. I’m rooting for you.

Why do Christians not understand that the Bible informs your personal moral framework. It means nothing more to me than any other book of fiction. Quoting it as some kind of governing authority again means nothing to me. It does not govern our laws. It does not govern the behavior of anyone other than fellow followers of your religion. Stop referencing the Bible or the intentions of your God in discussions of law and rights. Your religion does not govern any of this.

You're right Christian morality had just as little effect on western values as Greco-Roman law and philosophy did on our legal system

Right, our moral values are influenced by Christianity and other religions , but we now follow the laws of the United States Constitution, not the laws of the Roman Empire or the Bible.

+1 and if we followed archaic Biblical rules/traditions, women would not have the right to vote.

lol wut?

-person who has actually read the Bible

And I'm sure you twist and turn it's words to suit whatever mood you are in.

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Anonymous wrote:Women's voted for this. White women specifically. It was more important to them to align themselves with white supremacy, hunt immigrants, and subjugate Black people than it was to protect the rule of law and their own rights. Why are people not more upset? I'm not going to continue twisting myself into knots trying to protect you morons from the consequences of your moronic choices. Clearly, we need to suffer for a bit.

Please stop blaming women. Men voted for Trump in greater numbers. But let's overall stop blaming and dividing each other- thats how tyranny wins.

I will not. White women never want to get honest about their role in all this, and I'm tired of the gaslighting. You're with us when it suits you and against us when white supremacy benefits you, and THAT is why tyranny won, and will continue to win until white America decides a functioning government and society is worth sharing this country and this planet with brown people.

Let's get honest, honey. I'm not obligated to vote for candidates that black women like. Period. It's mind blowing that you think anyone is obligated to vote the way anyone else wants them to. It's a democracy, you can win votes the usual way, through persuasion.

You get honest with yourself honey.....you voted for a misogynistic, hateful criminal. Congratulations.

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Anonymous wrote:Women's voted for this. White women specifically. It was more important to them to align themselves with white supremacy, hunt immigrants, and subjugate Black people than it was to protect the rule of law and their own rights. Why are people not more upset? I'm not going to continue twisting myself into knots trying to protect you morons from the consequences of your moronic choices. Clearly, we need to suffer for a bit.

Please stop blaming women. Men voted for Trump in greater numbers. But let's overall stop blaming and dividing each other- thats how tyranny wins.

I will not. White women never want to get honest about their role in all this, and I'm tired of the gaslighting. You're with us when it suits you and against us when white supremacy benefits you, and THAT is why tyranny won, and will continue to win until white America decides a functioning government and society is worth sharing this country and this planet with brown people.

Preach! That is the truth! If you cannot handle it then you are a part of the problem. White women will always support their white men. They put their women on a pedestal and in turn they support their men. They do not want to share what they stole, killed for and enslaved for anything. They will fight to keep it too.

Not all white women but yes conservative white women are the worst. They truly are cutting off their noses to spite their face

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Anonymous wrote:Women's voted for this. White women specifically. It was more important to them to align themselves with white supremacy, hunt immigrants, and subjugate Black people than it was to protect the rule of law and their own rights. Why are people not more upset? I'm not going to continue twisting myself into knots trying to protect you morons from the consequences of your moronic choices. Clearly, we need to suffer for a bit.

Please stop blaming women. Men voted for Trump in greater numbers. But let's overall stop blaming and dividing each other- thats how tyranny wins.

I will not. White women never want to get honest about their role in all this, and I'm tired of the gaslighting. You're with us when it suits you and against us when white supremacy benefits you, and THAT is why tyranny won, and will continue to win until white America decides a functioning government and society is worth sharing this country and this planet with brown people.

Let's get honest, honey. I'm not obligated to vote for candidates that black women like. Period. It's mind blowing that you think anyone is obligated to vote the way anyone else wants them to. It's a democracy, you can win votes the usual way, through persuasion.

DP Something that is always inaccurately stated. The USA is not a democracy. It is a republic. We don't have one person, one vote. All votes are not equal. And what we do vote for is for someone else to speak on our behalf, not us choosing to speak for ourselves.

This political scientist and lawyer is SO SICK of this ridiculous pinhead MAGA talking point.

The USA is a representative democratic republic - a form of DEMOCRACY. You have to be inbred level stupid to assert that the USA isn't a democracy. You have to be a person who didn't pay attention to school past the 4th grade. SHUT UP WITH THIS STUPID FALSE ASSERTION ALREADY! Moron.

Constitutional Republic

Which is a form of DEMOCRACY.

Moron.

Call it whatever you want. I'm still not going to the voting booth and saying "how do black women want me to vote?" You vote for your interests and I'll vote for mine.

That issue goes to your adherence to Christian principles, if you have any faith in that regard. Or if you are an atheist, it goes to basic human decency.

In either regard we have an obligation to consider our neighbors and not to simply pursue self interest in our lives. But of course many, many people are entirely and solely self interested and that is why our world continues to be full of crappiness and evil.

Then you should be voting in my interests. See how that works? Yet I'm not acting put-upon because other people vote in their interests. You are. You are the one demanding that I act according to your self interests. Why doesn't your religion or atheism force you to vote in MY interests? Why does this only go one way, benefiting you? No, I will vote how I want, and you vote how you want. That's democracy or whatever you want to call our system. I completely reject your idea that my vote belongs to you. GTFO.

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Anonymous wrote:Women's voted for this. White women specifically. It was more important to them to align themselves with white supremacy, hunt immigrants, and subjugate Black people than it was to protect the rule of law and their own rights. Why are people not more upset? I'm not going to continue twisting myself into knots trying to protect you morons from the consequences of your moronic choices. Clearly, we need to suffer for a bit.

Please stop blaming women. Men voted for Trump in greater numbers. But let's overall stop blaming and dividing each other- thats how tyranny wins.

I will not. White women never want to get honest about their role in all this, and I'm tired of the gaslighting. You're with us when it suits you and against us when white supremacy benefits you, and THAT is why tyranny won, and will continue to win until white America decides a functioning government and society is worth sharing this country and this planet with brown people.

Let's get honest, honey. I'm not obligated to vote for candidates that black women like. Period. It's mind blowing that you think anyone is obligated to vote the way anyone else wants them to. It's a democracy, you can win votes the usual way, through persuasion.

DP Something that is always inaccurately stated. The USA is not a democracy. It is a republic. We don't have one person, one vote. All votes are not equal. And what we do vote for is for someone else to speak on our behalf, not us choosing to speak for ourselves.

This political scientist and lawyer is SO SICK of this ridiculous pinhead MAGA talking point.

The USA is a representative democratic republic - a form of DEMOCRACY. You have to be inbred level stupid to assert that the USA isn't a democracy. You have to be a person who didn't pay attention to school past the 4th grade. SHUT UP WITH THIS STUPID FALSE ASSERTION ALREADY! Moron.

Where in the Constitution is the word Democracy. I can point to where the word Republic is, and I think you are dumb ASF. Big deal that you're an attorney, so is thirty to forty percent of the DMV. You must be a child lawyer using that as a brag. Haha.

Another moron, with a very tiny penis to boot.