Why do MAGA assume all blue cities are violent crime ridden hell scapes?

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Anonymous wrote:It's Fox News. An elderly relative - who lived in Manhattan in the 70s and 80s - now believes NY is too dangerous to visit.

Manhattan was off the chain in the 70’s. People could not ride the subways, and she thinks it was safer then than this now. It must be her age and she is remembering rat infested, sticky movie theatre doors, broken subway cars, heroine addicted druggies trying to sell their babies on the platform through rose-colored lenses. The 60’s manhattan was indeed a hellhole.

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So we can conclude from this thread that people who live in blue urban areas think they're better, and people who live in red suburban and rural areas think they're better.

Put a different way, people choose to live in areas they think are better.

Stop the presses!

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Anonymous wrote:Ah yes, the bravery of co-existing with bums that shit directly on the ground nearly on command. Who wouldn’t want to be surrounded by that?

Are you ok? You’ve got some weird things going on in your head that just accidentally escaped, got typed out, and posted.

Sounds like you haven’t been to San Francisco in awhile. You should try it out and report back.

I have been to San Francisco many times and have yet to encounter anyone ranting about bums shitting on the ground on command.

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Anonymous wrote:I only trust murder statistics; crime statistics are heavily manipulated.

This is true. MPD has been manipulating crime stats forever, but the only way to manipulate a homicide is to classify it as a suicide. I doubt that happens very often.

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Anonymous wrote:So we can conclude from this thread that people who live in blue urban areas think they're better, and people who live in red suburban and rural areas think they're better.

Put a different way, people choose to live in areas they think are better.

Stop the presses!

I don’t understand why it has to be a zero-sum game. If I live in Area A, that doesn’t require me to believe Area A is paradise on earth and Area B is a crime-ridden hellhole. We’re acting like different areas of the country are rival high schools that we’re supposed to hate with maximum intensity.

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Anonymous wrote:It's Fox News. An elderly relative - who lived in Manhattan in the 70s and 80s - now believes NY is too dangerous to visit.

Manhattan was off the chain in the 70’s. People could not ride the subways, and she thinks it was safer then than this now. It must be her age and she is remembering rat infested, sticky movie theatre doors, broken subway cars, heroine addicted druggies trying to sell their babies on the platform through rose-colored lenses. The 60’s manhattan was indeed a hellhole.

The 70's and 80's were rough in Manhattan. Couples could not walk to restaurants on date night due to safety issues. You had to take a cab.

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Anonymous wrote:Cuz it's tiresome to see shampoo and candy and bars of soap locked behind plastic cages at CVS, or to see drug needles on the ground, or have fear of walking in the city at night.

I’m more comfortable walking in midtown Manhattan than I am some desolate country road where I’m in big trouble if a pick up truck stops next to me and tells me to get in.

Also - Based on the latest data, Tennessee has a significantly higher rate of gun deaths per capita than New York. For 2023, the total age-adjusted gun death rate in Tennessee was 22.0 per 100,000 residents, while New York's was 4.7 per 100,000. That’s a huge difference.

Compare two cities - As of 2024, the gun death rate in Jackson, Mississippi, was drastically higher than in Boston, Massachusetts. Data shows that Jackson had the highest per-capita homicide rate in the U.S. in 2024, while Boston's homicide rate was at a near-historic low.

Compare a red state and a blue state on the safety of women regarding the most serious assault - Massachusetts rape rate: For 2023, the rape rate was 27.3 per 100,000 people. This rate of violence against women in Massachusetts is lower than the U.S. national average.

Texas rape rate: For 2023, the rate was 49.5 per 100,000 people, placing Texas among the highest rates of violence against women in the country.


I am so sick of the stupidest people in our country buying this bull that Trump sells. Blue states are safer including their cities. How much taxpayer money was spent on the dog and pony show that Trump put on in Portland, DC, Chicago?

And which party controls Jackson, Mississippi?

It brings me no pleasure to point out that all the crime stuff is correlated to the size of the African-American population, not to the party in charge. Furthermore, pro-crime democrat district attorneys and judges obstruct the proper administration of justice in these high crime areas.

If Republicans had a way to reduce crime in cities like Jackson they would present that solution to voters, run for office and win. Why hasn't that happened?

Because the Republican solution-- tougher policing, build more prisons, throw more people into jail-- is unpopular among democrat voters in Jackson!

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Anonymous wrote:Cuz it's tiresome to see shampoo and candy and bars of soap locked behind plastic cages at CVS, or to see drug needles on the ground, or have fear of walking in the city at night.

I’m more comfortable walking in midtown Manhattan than I am some desolate country road where I’m in big trouble if a pick up truck stops next to me and tells me to get in.

Also - Based on the latest data, Tennessee has a significantly higher rate of gun deaths per capita than New York. For 2023, the total age-adjusted gun death rate in Tennessee was 22.0 per 100,000 residents, while New York's was 4.7 per 100,000. That’s a huge difference.

Compare two cities - As of 2024, the gun death rate in Jackson, Mississippi, was drastically higher than in Boston, Massachusetts. Data shows that Jackson had the highest per-capita homicide rate in the U.S. in 2024, while Boston's homicide rate was at a near-historic low.

Compare a red state and a blue state on the safety of women regarding the most serious assault - Massachusetts rape rate: For 2023, the rape rate was 27.3 per 100,000 people. This rate of violence against women in Massachusetts is lower than the U.S. national average.

Texas rape rate: For 2023, the rate was 49.5 per 100,000 people, placing Texas among the highest rates of violence against women in the country.


I am so sick of the stupidest people in our country buying this bull that Trump sells. Blue states are safer including their cities. How much taxpayer money was spent on the dog and pony show that Trump put on in Portland, DC, Chicago?

And which party controls Jackson, Mississippi?

It brings me no pleasure to point out that all the crime stuff is correlated to the size of the African-American population, not to the party in charge. Furthermore, pro-crime democrat district attorneys and judges obstruct the proper administration of justice in these high crime areas.

oKKK. So you are proposing paying them reparations for the 2 centuries of abuse, theft, and murder, right?

That's been going on for decades dude. It's called federal govt jobs for African Americans, welfare benefits, SNAP benefits, Medicaid, etc.

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You're paranoid. There was zero chance you would have been robbed/murdered/raped by those Karens.

If you stepped a block outside the bougie sections of STL, Baltimore, Chicago, etc though...it becomes a different story.

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Anonymous wrote:No, we assume nothing.

Our “lived experiences” have informed our decision to live and travel elsewhere.

You do you boo. I choose to live far away from density, subsidized housing, weed odors from neighbors, and mentally unstable hobos outside of my door.

To each their own.

Wow that’s quite an inaccurate picture.

You do know that drug use and OD rates are higher in rural populations, right?

Rural areas are much safer. Most American cities have large neighborhoods that are "sundown towns" where no one is willing to step into after dark, no matter how liberal and anti-Maga they are on the internet.

Hahahaha. I've lived in both, and I don't think you know what a "sundown town" is. Almost every small town in the rural mountains parts of the South is a "sundown town" where black people are supposed to be out of town by sundown or face the consequences.

You must be from another country or don't know any US history because your school didn't teach it.

Anyhow, I've lived in some rural southern towns (that's weren't sundown towns in the mountains) and you really don't want to go the local Wal Mart after 10pm, as I found out the hard way. Rural doesn't always mean safe, particularly if you are a woman.

The local drug stores have everything locked up in rural areas too. And usually there are a whole bunch of meth heads. Which is why Fox News viewers think urban areas much be ten times worse.

Yes, I'm intentionally using and inverting the term "sundown town" to parody you. I've lived in the rural south too. Rural sundown towns don't exist anymore, a black woman has a very low chance of robbed at gunpoint or raped in a southern hick town.

But a woman has a significant chance to run into mischief in East St. Louis or West Baltimore or parts of Chicago. So which is the *real* sundown town? Use your critical thinking skills to answer my question-- don't just regurgitate your school propaganda!

DP and NP. I am a Black woman and beg to differ. Roughly eight years ago as my DH and I drove from NO back to Alexandria, VA we made a pit stop in a Walmart in Mississippi. DH had a thing with acquiring ammo and Walmart was a good place to get it cheap. As I roamed casually roamed the store while DH compared ammo prices, two white men walked up to me and said “my you’re tall for a woman (I’m 5’8 1/2”), what brings you here. You’re not from these parts are you. Don’t know where you at”. It was definitely an eerie and uncomfortable feeling going through my veins and I made my way to the ammo section in the store. This exchanged occurred in broad daylight in a mega store. I would hate how that conversation would have ended after the sun went down. I never had that experience or feeling in broad daylight Baltimore or Chicago. I’ve never been to st Louis, so I can’t say one way or the other.

You're paranoid. There was zero chance you would have been robbed/murdered/raped by those Karens.

If you stepped a block outside the bougie sections of STL, Baltimore, Chicago, etc though...it becomes a different story.

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Anonymous wrote:Ah yes, the bravery of co-existing with bums that shit directly on the ground nearly on command. Who wouldn’t want to be surrounded by that?

I have lived in DC for over 50 years. I have not co-existed with bums that shit on the ground, ever. Where do you even come up with this?

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Anonymous wrote:So we can conclude from this thread that people who live in blue urban areas think they're better, and people who live in red suburban and rural areas think they're better.

Put a different way, people choose to live in areas they think are better.

Stop the presses!

No, what we can conclude is that MAGAs don't know how to read or understand data for themselves and rely on propaganda for their information.

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Anonymous wrote:Cuz it's tiresome to see shampoo and candy and bars of soap locked behind plastic cages at CVS, or to see drug needles on the ground, or have fear of walking in the city at night.

I’m more comfortable walking in midtown Manhattan than I am some desolate country road where I’m in big trouble if a pick up truck stops next to me and tells me to get in.

Also - Based on the latest data, Tennessee has a significantly higher rate of gun deaths per capita than New York. For 2023, the total age-adjusted gun death rate in Tennessee was 22.0 per 100,000 residents, while New York's was 4.7 per 100,000. That’s a huge difference.

Compare two cities - As of 2024, the gun death rate in Jackson, Mississippi, was drastically higher than in Boston, Massachusetts. Data shows that Jackson had the highest per-capita homicide rate in the U.S. in 2024, while Boston's homicide rate was at a near-historic low.

Compare a red state and a blue state on the safety of women regarding the most serious assault - Massachusetts rape rate: For 2023, the rape rate was 27.3 per 100,000 people. This rate of violence against women in Massachusetts is lower than the U.S. national average.

Texas rape rate: For 2023, the rate was 49.5 per 100,000 people, placing Texas among the highest rates of violence against women in the country.


I am so sick of the stupidest people in our country buying this bull that Trump sells. Blue states are safer including their cities. How much taxpayer money was spent on the dog and pony show that Trump put on in Portland, DC, Chicago?

And which party controls Jackson, Mississippi?

It brings me no pleasure to point out that all the crime stuff is correlated to the size of the African-American population, not to the party in charge. Furthermore, pro-crime democrat district attorneys and judges obstruct the proper administration of justice in these high crime areas.

oKKK. So you are proposing paying them reparations for the 2 centuries of abuse, theft, and murder, right?

That's been going on for decades dude. It's called federal govt jobs for African Americans, welfare benefits, SNAP benefits, Medicaid, etc.

Are you suggesting only white people should work for the federal government?

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Anonymous wrote:Ah yes, the bravery of co-existing with bums that shit directly on the ground nearly on command. Who wouldn’t want to be surrounded by that?

I have lived in DC for over 50 years. I have not co-existed with bums that shit on the ground, ever. Where do you even come up with this?

PP must be one of those bums. Takes one to know one.

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Back on topic, but yes blue cities have way more violence than the small towns MAGA may be more accustomed to. Part of it is that when you live in a city, you know where and when not to be. A tourist may stumble into something, as the line between good and not-good can be a block thin in DC. The smug DC residents here probably don't ride the X2, or whatever its called now, after midnight for instance.

You don't have to be aware of hyper-local distinctions when you're in some MAGA town, so that's why they judge the whole city by its worst parts.