MAGA- please explain…

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Anonymous wrote:MAGA- please explain to me why you are against science research? I’m so confused by this. Do you never intend to use any products that were developed via scientific research or never go to a doctor?

Democrats have turned science into political science.

If you don't see it, you don't see it.

Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. Government is definitely not perfect but it does do (or did) some GREAT things, like funding novel scientific research that private corporations won't touch because that baseline research is almost never profitable.

One thing the feds could clean up is not having political appointees so deep down in government. Leave them at the top. Let merit staff manage the rest.

Politicizing science means government is not perfect? That's your defense?

Maybe you need to switch the term government with the DNC.

We're seriously infested with leftist ideology. RIp it out, root and branch.

No, we are not infested. And it's not a defense. It's a rational observation based on decades of personal experience. My son with type 1 diabetes benefits from the continuous glucose monitor patch he wears and monitor on from an app on his phone. The very early research on whether enzyme based electrodes could measure glucose levels was funded by the federal government, back in the 60s and the 70s. Private companies like Abbott and Dexcom took the research after certain breakthroughs were made and developed the commercial product we use today. They profit from federal research foundational funding.

By killing research funding, we've set research back by decades. Maybe my son could have grown up to just take one pill a day that stops the auto immune attack on his pancreas. How amazing would that be? Especially for kids born 30 years from now, who wouldn't have to have needles stuck into them with the Omnipod, especially during sports. Don't get me wrong, the Omnipod is amazing. So much better than what was available when I was a kid.

And that's just it. We were making great advances in many different things over the years. No longer. We will rely on research in other nations, but they are not funded as well as we were. So much for American exceptionalism.

We're not well funded. We have a national debt of $110,000 for every person in the country. *

We're borrowing or creating out of thin-air, 50 cents of every dollar that the government spends, at our present rate.

Every dollar created brings on more inflation. Sorry to tell you, but we're out of runway.

Let private industry do the research and pay for it.

* https://www.usdebtclock.org/

Donald Trump and George W. Bush are responsible for almost 60% of the federal debt. We have the money, we need to not be spending it on endless wars and corruption.

Private sector isn't taking on research that isn't profitable. That is why government sponsored research is so important.

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To whomever started this thread, you should have realized that "MAGA please explain" is impossible as they are incapable of logic and reason.

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Anonymous wrote:MAGA- please explain to me why you are against science research? I’m so confused by this. Do you never intend to use any products that were developed via scientific research or never go to a doctor?

Most MAGAs did not go to college. This is a lack of education and understanding science.

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Anonymous wrote:MAGA- please explain to me why you are against science research? I’m so confused by this. Do you never intend to use any products that were developed via scientific research or never go to a doctor?

Most MAGAs did not go to college. This is a lack of education and not understanding science.

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Anonymous wrote:MAGA- please explain to me why you are against science research? I’m so confused by this. Do you never intend to use any products that were developed via scientific research or never go to a doctor?

Democrats have turned science into political science.

If you don't see it, you don't see it.

Republicans have now amped up the politicization of science 100x. So you were upset with Dems doing it but are now perfectly fine with your Republicans now doing far, far worse?

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Anonymous wrote:MAGA- please explain to me why you are against science research? I’m so confused by this. Do you never intend to use any products that were developed via scientific research or never go to a doctor?

Democrats have turned science into political science.

If you don't see it, you don't see it.

Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. Government is definitely not perfect but it does do (or did) some GREAT things, like funding novel scientific research that private corporations won't touch because that baseline research is almost never profitable.

One thing the feds could clean up is not having political appointees so deep down in government. Leave them at the top. Let merit staff manage the rest.

Politicizing science means government is not perfect? That's your defense?

Maybe you need to switch the term government with the DNC.

We're seriously infested with leftist ideology. RIp it out, root and branch.

No, we are not infested. And it's not a defense. It's a rational observation based on decades of personal experience. My son with type 1 diabetes benefits from the continuous glucose monitor patch he wears and monitor on from an app on his phone. The very early research on whether enzyme based electrodes could measure glucose levels was funded by the federal government, back in the 60s and the 70s. Private companies like Abbott and Dexcom took the research after certain breakthroughs were made and developed the commercial product we use today. They profit from federal research foundational funding.

By killing research funding, we've set research back by decades. Maybe my son could have grown up to just take one pill a day that stops the auto immune attack on his pancreas. How amazing would that be? Especially for kids born 30 years from now, who wouldn't have to have needles stuck into them with the Omnipod, especially during sports. Don't get me wrong, the Omnipod is amazing. So much better than what was available when I was a kid.

And that's just it. We were making great advances in many different things over the years. No longer. We will rely on research in other nations, but they are not funded as well as we were. So much for American exceptionalism.

We're not well funded. We have a national debt of $110,000 for every person in the country. *

We're borrowing or creating out of thin-air, 50 cents of every dollar that the government spends, at our present rate.

Every dollar created brings on more inflation. Sorry to tell you, but we're out of runway.

Let private industry do the research and pay for it.

* https://www.usdebtclock.org/

Donald Trump and George W. Bush are responsible for almost 60% of the federal debt. We have the money, we need to not be spending it on endless wars and corruption.

Private sector isn't taking on research that isn't profitable. That is why government sponsored research is so important.

That's exactly it. With a free market economy, the private sector cherrypicks all of the things that are profitable, but leaves behind the things that society needs, but which are not profitable. That's where government comes in, to pick up the pieces.

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Anonymous wrote:To whomever started this thread, you should have realized that "MAGA please explain" is impossible as they are incapable of logic and reason.

Anecdotal only, but the most MAGA people in my family have started switching to watching CNN at least part of the time because they are becoming disenchanted with Fox. And by association, with Trump. They think CNN is being a little more objective. These are the last people on earth I would have thought could abandon Trump, but they (and hopefully others) are starting to.

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Anonymous wrote:To whomever started this thread, you should have realized that "MAGA please explain" is impossible as they are incapable of logic and reason.

Anecdotal only, but the most MAGA people in my family have started switching to watching CNN at least part of the time because they are becoming disenchanted with Fox. And by association, with Trump. They think CNN is being a little more objective. These are the last people on earth I would have thought could abandon Trump, but they (and hopefully others) are starting to.

Let's hope...

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For folks that worry that pharma has too much $$ influence, they reallllllly do not seem to be aware of how much more the wellness industry makes. They love their snake oil wellness influencers peddling supplements based on pseudoscience and cherry picked, misinterpreted research.

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Anonymous wrote:For folks that worry that pharma has too much $$ influence, they reallllllly do not seem to be aware of how much more the wellness industry makes. They love their snake oil wellness influencers peddling supplements based on pseudoscience and cherry picked, misinterpreted research.

What if I worry about both? Big Pharma needs checks and balances and the wellness industry needs to be properly regulated as well. Getting rid of the power of the FDA was a terrible idea. Just as bad as ending all scientific research done by the government. Trump has done more to ruin the health of Americans than anyone else.

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Anonymous wrote:MAGA- please explain to me why you are against science research? I’m so confused by this. Do you never intend to use any products that were developed via scientific research or never go to a doctor?

Democrats have turned science into political science.

If you don't see it, you don't see it.

Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. Government is definitely not perfect but it does do (or did) some GREAT things, like funding novel scientific research that private corporations won't touch because that baseline research is almost never profitable.

One thing the feds could clean up is not having political appointees so deep down in government. Leave them at the top. Let merit staff manage the rest.

Politicizing science means government is not perfect? That's your defense?

Maybe you need to switch the term government with the DNC.

We're seriously infested with leftist ideology. RIp it out, root and branch.

No, we are not infested. And it's not a defense. It's a rational observation based on decades of personal experience. My son with type 1 diabetes benefits from the continuous glucose monitor patch he wears and monitor on from an app on his phone. The very early research on whether enzyme based electrodes could measure glucose levels was funded by the federal government, back in the 60s and the 70s. Private companies like Abbott and Dexcom took the research after certain breakthroughs were made and developed the commercial product we use today. They profit from federal research foundational funding.

By killing research funding, we've set research back by decades. Maybe my son could have grown up to just take one pill a day that stops the auto immune attack on his pancreas. How amazing would that be? Especially for kids born 30 years from now, who wouldn't have to have needles stuck into them with the Omnipod, especially during sports. Don't get me wrong, the Omnipod is amazing. So much better than what was available when I was a kid.

And that's just it. We were making great advances in many different things over the years. No longer. We will rely on research in other nations, but they are not funded as well as we were. So much for American exceptionalism.

We're not well funded. We have a national debt of $110,000 for every person in the country. *

We're borrowing or creating out of thin-air, 50 cents of every dollar that the government spends, at our present rate.

Every dollar created brings on more inflation. Sorry to tell you, but we're out of runway.

Let private industry do the research and pay for it.

* https://www.usdebtclock.org/

That's not from health research. That's from unfunded, decades-long wars, and from cutting taxes. Cutting research is like me clipping my toenails in an effort to lose weight.

It's from ALL spending.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MAGA- please explain to me why you are against science research? I’m so confused by this. Do you never intend to use any products that were developed via scientific research or never go to a doctor?

Democrats have turned science into political science.

If you don't see it, you don't see it.

Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. Government is definitely not perfect but it does do (or did) some GREAT things, like funding novel scientific research that private corporations won't touch because that baseline research is almost never profitable.

One thing the feds could clean up is not having political appointees so deep down in government. Leave them at the top. Let merit staff manage the rest.

Politicizing science means government is not perfect? That's your defense?

Maybe you need to switch the term government with the DNC.

We're seriously infested with leftist ideology. RIp it out, root and branch.

No, we are not infested. And it's not a defense. It's a rational observation based on decades of personal experience. My son with type 1 diabetes benefits from the continuous glucose monitor patch he wears and monitor on from an app on his phone. The very early research on whether enzyme based electrodes could measure glucose levels was funded by the federal government, back in the 60s and the 70s. Private companies like Abbott and Dexcom took the research after certain breakthroughs were made and developed the commercial product we use today. They profit from federal research foundational funding.

By killing research funding, we've set research back by decades. Maybe my son could have grown up to just take one pill a day that stops the auto immune attack on his pancreas. How amazing would that be? Especially for kids born 30 years from now, who wouldn't have to have needles stuck into them with the Omnipod, especially during sports. Don't get me wrong, the Omnipod is amazing. So much better than what was available when I was a kid.

And that's just it. We were making great advances in many different things over the years. No longer. We will rely on research in other nations, but they are not funded as well as we were. So much for American exceptionalism.

We're not well funded. We have a national debt of $110,000 for every person in the country. *

We're borrowing or creating out of thin-air, 50 cents of every dollar that the government spends, at our present rate.

Every dollar created brings on more inflation. Sorry to tell you, but we're out of runway.

Let private industry do the research and pay for it.

* https://www.usdebtclock.org/

That's not from health research. That's from unfunded, decades-long wars, and from cutting taxes. Cutting research is like me clipping my toenails in an effort to lose weight.

It's from ALL spending.

Way to miss the point. Just another MAGA spouting off about things they don't comprehend.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For folks that worry that pharma has too much $$ influence, they reallllllly do not seem to be aware of how much more the wellness industry makes. They love their snake oil wellness influencers peddling supplements based on pseudoscience and cherry picked, misinterpreted research.

What if I worry about both? Big Pharma needs checks and balances and the wellness industry needs to be properly regulated as well. Getting rid of the power of the FDA was a terrible idea. Just as bad as ending all scientific research done by the government. Trump has done more to ruin the health of Americans than anyone else.

Checks and balances? Have you seen spending to health care and medical in the last two decades? It has exploded. It's the biggest part of the budget.

If you want checks and balances, WTF has Uncle Sam been doing for the last two decades?


Budgets explode and you keep telling us we need to do more of it. Meanwhile, every other industry is starved of funding. 17% of ALL spending in this country goes to health care.


With Costs Soaring, How Is the US Going to Fund Health Care?

https://mishtalk.com/economics/with-costs-soaring-how-is-the-us-going-to-fund-health-care/

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Anonymous wrote:"The scientific method is a systematic process used to acquire knowledge through observation, experimentation, and analysis. It typically involves forming a hypothesis, conducting experiments to test that hypothesis, and refining it based on the results."


That's not what is going on. Lifers in government are studying ways to push forward their democrat ideologies. HTH

And you base this claim on what exactly?

Proclamations like the world is going to end and the seas will boil if we don't switch from oil to renewable energy from the DNC and all its affinity groups.

Did you accidentally mistake Revelation for a scientific journal? I’ve never seen a study that said the seas will literally boil.

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Democrats, please explain why you want more of this.

We spend more on health care than any other country and you just want more of it.