So Hamas leaders were there? Interdasting. |
Doesn't matter. The plan has always been been to fulfill the Zionist goals since the inception of the nation and no leader of Israel in the past 50 years has been more successful. He is responsible for preventing a two state solution and executing the elimination of Gaza's population with western backing. If you look at what he's accomplished in influencing the US and West since even the 1970s, it is nothing short of amazing. |
Wow! Susan Collins is on DCUm and she is very concerned. Well, Susie, put your money where your mouth is. |
It’s been beautiful to see Israel go full “masks off”
Don’t worry though, in 50 years everyone will think they were innocent victims that got picked on for no good reason. |
DP that is a convenient argument. Though the same argument does not seem to work for the Palestinians. |
I also don't think American Palestinians need to go around proving they are anti-hamas either. It's not good for Palestinians to be anti-semitic or for Jews to be islamophobes, but you ARE demanding a purity test for American Jews here. That is gross. It is this kind of phrasing and stereotyping that mistakenly in part (or not, in some cases) leads people to believe that the anti_zionist movement is inherently anti-semitic. |
There are 2 Hamas- one in Gaza and one in Qatar. The Hamas in Gaza are the fighter wing/the poors. The Hamas in Qatar are the bourgeoise/diplomatic face of Hamas. They tend to be rich, educated, secular, tend to lean a little pro Israel, have kids in western universities in Qatar or overseas, speak English fluently and often another language like Russian or Turkish. They are the diplomatic “face”. They also are not popular in Gaza even among the poor Hamas fighters or Among the average everyday people. According to Qatari Hamas, they had no prior knowledge of 10/7. Israel believed it because they have their phones taped and found no conspiring. It appears Sinwar completed 10/7 alone and seemingly as a coup against Hamas in Qatar. Sinwar had some authenticity among the fighters because he actually lived in Gaza unlike the ritz Carlton dwelling Hamas elite |
The problem with killing the rich elite is this ruins any chances of Israel getting the hostages. They were the only ones in communication with Hamas in Gaza and able to determine where hostages were and what are the conditions of release. By bombing Doha, this is setting back the possibility of a return of the remaining Israeli hostages. Why would Netanyahu do that? Unless he doesn’t want a deal. If the rest of the hostages are returned , he knows most Israelis will demand the war is ended and he doesn’t want that |
Hamas is weak. If Hamas had killed 1/2 the hostages the first time Israel killed the negotiators the Israelis would have taken any deal. |
I really do not what Israel propaganda says any more. They have been fighting for almost two year with no results. It is time to look at Israel and only Israel. |
It's pretty obvious that Netanyahu needs the hostages to stay right in Gaza and not have any type of negotiation in order to execute the final solution. Anyone with even the tiniest ability to think critically knows this has never been about the hostages but about conquering Gaza and ultimately reducing and expelling the native population to create a Jewish ethnostate. |
Evil? It’s fantastic. Hamas needs to be ended and the hostages released. |
If they actually did something that shocking like beheading Israeli kids or women hostages, they would’ve been feeding into the narrative Israel was already putting about them beheading 40 babies and hanging kids on clothes lines. I don’t think Hamas is weak but somethings very off about 10/7. If they could do an operation like that, every day they could and Israel wouldn’t be safe at all. It’s obvious an inside job at the very least is a part of it. The gates were left open, IDF were told to stand down, several Israeli soldiers said it was logistically impossible for a caravan of trucks to go inside Israel without it being an inside job. That electric fence rings if a pigeon from Gaza lands on the gate let alone a barrage of cranes and men. The obvious answer is Netanyahu wanted it to happen to scare his country away from demonstrating against his removal. The largest anti Netanyahu demonstration was planned for the following week Sat 10/14: it was cancelled due to the war. In addition, Sinwar was rumored to have sent a letter to Netanyahu upon release from jail and the letter stated Calculated risk? Why would a prisoner send a letter to a PM? He was released from Israeli jail to be the Hamas mole that could be why and when they were finished with him, Israel killed him |
Hamas is not to be believed. But, Israel shouldn’t be bombing Qatar. They should send assassins. |
Neither Israel or Hamas are a monolith. Among the Israeli chain of command , there are also divisions between mossad and Netanyahu and the same tensions exist within Hamas. This is what makes dealmaking ever more complicated. Neither Netanyahu nor Hamas care about their people dying despite what they say. Netanyahu recently blocked Israelis from leaving the country. For a moment, it seemed like they got a taste of their own medicine and were a Gaza in miniature when Iran displaced them and bombed tel Aviv and other cities. I don’t know what Netanyahus end game is here. Israel’s summer economy was destroyed thanks to his iranian war. The will of the majority of the people on both sides (Israel and Palestinians) are not for war. Everyone wants to be safe in their own homes with their families but the Israeli leadership wants to go scorched earth even if they get burned in the process (and have) |