The Saudis will recognize Israel and completely that long worked for recognition of Israel with a trade agreement. This will solve everything. |
Please just be careful with the rhetoric. Many American Jews including me, are horrified by what Netanyahu is doing. He is a madman. |
It cost 2 times more than a new plane but that is how Trump and the Republicans roll. Why should they care it’s not like they are paying for it? |
Yeah they are actually helping Hamas who are constantly pointing out to Qataris and Americans that Israelis are the problems and they don’t want peace. Israel is ran by a dimwit president |
Wait, why is Israel killing the chief negotiating team for a ceasefire? Doesn't it want to get back the hostages? |
DP we are way past that. It is time for Americans Jews to actually do something. |
No Israel knows the US will always support them. The US has no say in the matter. |
Such as? |
It would’ve been very easy to win both public /global support and get Hamas ostracized by the region including by Gazans if Israel played it smart. Hamas was not popular there in Gaza or in the region before 10/7. Demonstrations from Gazans were occurring that entire summer and fall prior to 10/7.
From the beginning, they should’ve offered Gazans safety from bombs if they snitch on Hamas and reported where the hostages are. They could’ve caused internal chaos within the Gaza Strip itself destroying Hamas’s political future, infrastructure, returning hostages all in one sweep, and executing all Hamas fighters and live-streaming it. Instead, their amount of civilian deaths are beyond revenge and now about ethnic cleansing/genocide/war of annihilation and…. -Hamas is still there and winning more recruits as a result. Anger and violence begets anger. |
Actually, Netanyahu is an absolute genius. He got America to fight at least six wars on Israel's behalf and enabled October 7th to happen so that the genocide and ethnic cleansing of Gaza could occur to allow its annexation. West Bank is next. I don't think any other politician could have executed the plan for a greater Israel like Netanyahu. |
I understand that which is why I reframed it toward the end about Netanyahu. I know many Palestinians and Israelis personally that can’t stand Hamas or Netanyahu, but what exactly are they doing to counter them? They still have popular support among the radical and war hungry right wingers who unfortunately reproduce more than others on both sides |
No, he’s an idiot that thinks Israel can survive without the US relationship. He’s said this. I don’t think it can. He also isn’t being realistic demographically about the Jewish race. Jews barely fill up current Israel as it is. What the hell is the need for the greater Israel if it’s at the risk of israel? The Levant is not oil rich. There’s nothing they have that Israel doesn’t already have. There’s no net benefit to risking national security to take over the Levant and even worse, Turkey. It’s practically national suicide to do what Israel is doing. The funny part is Saudis and Turks and Iranians never liked each other or got along ever but now they will align out of mutual fear of Israel. What Israel is doing is isolating itself in the region and making themselves the target |
Trump might say something eventually. He is a loose cannon and doesn’t like Netanyahu-referred to him with expletives several times in public and on X earlier this year and back in late June. |
Then make it clear you are disassociating yourself from Israel. Show us by your deeds how much you object to those actions. Quit contributing to Israel, its causes, AIPAC, ADL, etc. Let those who support Netanyahu stay and become a pariah state. They can fight Iran and North Korea for the worst. |
Look, I am anti_Zionism, but your post here borders on Semitic. American Jews do not have de facto loyalty to Israeli government, and do not de facto do all the things you say they need to stop. Such gross stereotyping. They don't need to prove anything to you. |