TJ gpa for UVA, VTech?

[Anonymous]

TJ kids settle for Pitt and W&M

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hear there are many TJ kids going to Mason. What gpa do they need for uva or vtech?

Here are the stats from Naviance for TJ (and it does not break it down by major, gender, etc. - just the average stats for admission):

UVA: wGPA: 4.48 SAT 1553
VaTech: wGPA: 4.36 SAT 1537

thank you. people do not understand how high the gpas are at TJ and that you compete against the others in your high school first, not just for uva but for any school. Sure TJ gets in "more" and you can be "only" top third and get in but when you are in the TJ peer group being top third is very difficult. better to stay at the home school and be the only kid with a 1550 and top of the class and have a shot at ivies than grind at TJ only to get shut out of UVA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:TJ kids settle for Pitt and W&M

Good for them. It is not "settling", Pitt professors actually makes students work hard instead of coddling them as often done by UVA professors. School rankings don't always show the rigor each program go through at these schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:One big drawback to going to TJ is that it makes it so much tougher to get into UVA.

UVA cares about kids being in the top 10% of HS. For TJ they are willing to go down to 20-25%.

This is about correct. For a magnet school, UVa will look deeper. For a non-selective public, they usually focus on roughly top 10%. Exceptions will exist, of course, as with anything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:FWIW:
1. VA Tech's scattergram is all the heck over the place. They are really squirrley for TJ kids and even w/ high stats they are a crap shoot - they don't seem to like TJ kids much.

VT Engineering is a tough admit. VT Agriculture or other is a visibly easier admit. This contributes to the wide spread on the VT scattergram.

UVa is a tough admit for any undergraduate school. Note well that, at UVa, Architecture, Engineering, and Nursing are all visibly small, which is a large part of why those also are tough admits. So their pattern is better defined.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The high GPA means nothing if you don't have the right courses. Lots of TJ kids know how to work the system to get a high GPA. The VT and UVA know the game.

This. UVA wants multiple years of foreign languages, including AP, and lots of English and history classes, again including AP. TJ kids are very much stem focused and some do not have the foreign language and humanities classes that UVA expects.

Note that even UVa Engineering prefers students who took those non-STEM courses. Yes, exceptions will exist, but having those courses will help and not having them will hinder at admissions time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:people do not understand how high the gpas are at TJ and that you compete against the others in your high school first, not just for uva but for any school. Sure TJ gets in "more" and you can be "only" top third and get in but when you are in the TJ peer group being top third is very difficult. better to stay at the home school and be the only kid with a 1550 and top of the class and have a shot at ivies than grind at TJ only to get shut out of UVA.

This can be true for some students. People need to think carefully about their situation before deciding on TJ vs base HS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:FWIW:
1. VA Tech's scattergram is all the heck over the place. They are really squirrley for TJ kids and even w/ high stats they are a crap shoot - they don't seem to like TJ kids much.

VT Engineering is a tough admit. VT Agriculture or other is a visibly easier admit. This contributes to the wide spread on the VT scattergram.

Agree but I don’t think it’s just that. How many kids do you think from TJ are going to VT to study ag? Whatever VT is looking for seems much less stats driven than the other schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hear there are many TJ kids going to Mason. What gpa do they need for uva or vtech?

Here are the stats from Naviance for TJ (and it does not break it down by major, gender, etc. - just the average stats for admission):

UVA: wGPA: 4.48 SAT 1553
VaTech: wGPA: 4.36 SAT 1537

thank you. people do not understand how high the gpas are at TJ and that you compete against the others in your high school first, not just for uva but for any school. Sure TJ gets in "more" and you can be "only" top third and get in but when you are in the TJ peer group being top third is very difficult. better to stay at the home school and be the only kid with a 1550 and top of the class and have a shot at ivies than grind at TJ only to get shut out of UVA.

I despise when TJ parents think their above avg or avg TJ kid would absolutely be at the top of their base school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TJ kids settle for Pitt and W&M

Good for them. It is not "settling", Pitt professors actually makes students work hard instead of coddling them as often done by UVA professors. School rankings don't always show the rigor each program go through at these schools.

I have a kid at UVA. The professors there don’t coddle. I do know two Pitt grads. They both found the academics quite manageable and breezed through.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TJ kids settle for Pitt and W&M

Good for them. It is not "settling", Pitt professors actually makes students work hard instead of coddling them as often done by UVA professors. School rankings don't always show the rigor each program go through at these schools.

I have a kid at UVA. The professors there don’t coddle. I do know two Pitt grads. They both found the academics quite manageable and breezed through.

You 2 sound ridiculous

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why are people arguing about the acceptance rate when someone posted the one directly from UVA?

I thought it was more that the 4.3 gpa at TJ is not high enough.

If you are under a 4.5 wGPA at TJ, you are not getting into SEAS. Maybe political science or something in Arts & Sciences, but not SEAS. The average SAT score at TJ is about 1540, and for TJ kids going to UVA it is 1550.

Is this still true nowadays? Can someone verify?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why are people arguing about the acceptance rate when someone posted the one directly from UVA?

I thought it was more that the 4.3 gpa at TJ is not high enough.

If you are under a 4.5 wGPA at TJ, you are not getting into SEAS. Maybe political science or something in Arts & Sciences, but not SEAS. The average SAT score at TJ is about 1540, and for TJ kids going to UVA it is 1550.

Is this still true nowadays? Can someone verify?

I heard it dropped to 1530 for class of 2025 and there were half as many NMSF for 2025 as there was for the class of 2024 (80 vs 160).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:FWIW:
1. VA Tech's scattergram is all the heck over the place. They are really squirrley for TJ kids and even w/ high stats they are a crap shoot - they don't seem to like TJ kids much.

VT Engineering is a tough admit. VT Agriculture or other is a visibly easier admit. This contributes to the wide spread on the VT scattergram.

Agree but I don’t think it’s just that. How many kids do you think from TJ are going to VT to study ag? Whatever VT is looking for seems much less stats driven than the other schools.

I was very surprised to learn many TJ students are really targeting medical or dental school -- instead of targeting a career in engineering. I am told that the TJ students applying to non-Engineering parts of VT (e.g., some pre-med major) have a much easier time with acceptances.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:FWIW:
1. VA Tech's scattergram is all the heck over the place. They are really squirrley for TJ kids and even w/ high stats they are a crap shoot - they don't seem to like TJ kids much.

VT Engineering is a tough admit. VT Agriculture or other is a visibly easier admit. This contributes to the wide spread on the VT scattergram.

Agree but I don’t think it’s just that. How many kids do you think from TJ are going to VT to study ag? Whatever VT is looking for seems much less stats driven than the other schools.

I was very surprised to learn many TJ students are really targeting medical or dental school -- instead of targeting a career in engineering. I am told that the TJ students applying to non-Engineering parts of VT (e.g., some pre-med major) have a much easier time with acceptances.

If you are surprised, you do not know many Asian parents then. Med school track is why so many TJ kids go to Pitt. No one goes there for engineering.