Flash Flood in Texas,

[Anonymous]

Who knew that scientific data modeling and collection actually mattered to red states? I thought it was just waste and abuse!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Who knew that scientific data modeling and collection actually mattered to red states? I thought it was just waste and abuse!

Well, if those Dems would stop shooting weather fairy dust into the atmosphere, these disasters wouldn’t happen!

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Anonymous wrote:That video is so scary. The poor girls and their families. I can’t believe how little they look in their photos. I wouldn’t send a daughter that little to sleepaway. Not because I could predict flash flooding, but they just seem too little to go away. I know “it’s normal” in some families to send kids away that small, but that’s too little.

Yea, blame the parents (eyeroll).

My 9 year old is at sleepaway camp as we speak. Go away.

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Anonymous wrote:That video is so scary. The poor girls and their families. I can’t believe how little they look in their photos. I wouldn’t send a daughter that little to sleepaway. Not because I could predict flash flooding, but they just seem too little to go away. I know “it’s normal” in some families to send kids away that small, but that’s too little.

How old are they?
As a child I went to a sleepaway camp with very young kids (I think the youngest were 5 and 6.)

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That video is so scary. The poor girls and their families. I can’t believe how little they look in their photos. I wouldn’t send a daughter that little to sleepaway. Not because I could predict flash flooding, but they just seem too little to go away. I know “it’s normal” in some families to send kids away that small, but that’s too little.

How old are they?
As a child I went to a sleepaway camp with very young kids (I think the youngest were 5 and 6.)

The missing girls are 8-10.

[Anonymous]

Met amateur here.

It's NOT easy to predict these volatile weather events. To tell the absolute truth, yes, we need more funding and more people in meteorology, but even with all the resources we want, such events will STILL be hard to predict, because we haven't yet invented all the tools and models and do so. Research in that quarter is ongoing, and it would be nice to have funding for that as well.

The less funding, the more deaths, obviously.
But with global warming, even if the entire world goes all out to prevent such events, there will be more of them than there used to be.

I feel awful for these poor kids in the camps. I hope camp directors everywhere rehearse their plans for how best to evacuate in an emergency: fires and floods are a risk in many camping locations across the US.

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Anonymous wrote:That video is so scary. The poor girls and their families. I can’t believe how little they look in their photos. I wouldn’t send a daughter that little to sleepaway. Not because I could predict flash flooding, but they just seem too little to go away. I know “it’s normal” in some families to send kids away that small, but that’s too little.

Yea, blame the parents (eyeroll).

My 9 year old is at sleepaway camp as we speak. Go away.

+1

This is as much of a tradition in UMC American families as boarding school is in Britain.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That video is so scary. The poor girls and their families. I can’t believe how little they look in their photos. I wouldn’t send a daughter that little to sleepaway. Not because I could predict flash flooding, but they just seem too little to go away. I know “it’s normal” in some families to send kids away that small, but that’s too little.

How old are they?
As a child I went to a sleepaway camp with very young kids (I think the youngest were 5 and 6.)

The girls were 8 and 9 - the youngest that the camp accepts. I'm so sad for these parents. I remember how hard it was to send my kids that first summer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That video is so scary. The poor girls and their families. I can’t believe how little they look in their photos. I wouldn’t send a daughter that little to sleepaway. Not because I could predict flash flooding, but they just seem too little to go away. I know “it’s normal” in some families to send kids away that small, but that’s too little.

How old are they?
As a child I went to a sleepaway camp with very young kids (I think the youngest were 5 and 6.)

The girls were 8 and 9 - the youngest that the camp accepts. I'm so sad for these parents. I remember how hard it was to send my kids that first summer.

I can’t even imagine. But this such a statistically rare and sad event I hope it doesn’t deter parents from camp. Camp is such a special place to help kids grow. I’m so devastated for these families

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Anonymous wrote:A forecast of tremendous amounts of rain causing flooding seems incredibly easy to predict and foresee.

There was a flash flood watch and then a warning. The meteorologists did their job.

This river was very well known to flood. So decision-makers were aware of the possibility.

It comes down to paying for and installing the means of warning people. Clearly that fell short.

So like a radio or a cell phone?

Yes, the camp should have had someone monitoring that through the night. It sounds like counselors were woken up by water coming into the cabins, far too late to get everyone out.

Someone might not get a full night's rest. That's unfair!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A forecast of tremendous amounts of rain causing flooding seems incredibly easy to predict and foresee.

There was a flash flood watch and then a warning. The meteorologists did their job.

This river was very well known to flood. So decision-makers were aware of the possibility.

It comes down to paying for and installing the means of warning people. Clearly that fell short.

So like a radio or a cell phone?

Yes, the camp should have had someone monitoring that through the night. It sounds like counselors were woken up by water coming into the cabins, far too late to get everyone out.

Someone might not get a full night's rest. That's unfair!

Go watch the video someone posted up thread. It wouldn’t have mattered. The cabins were just too close to the water

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Anonymous wrote:Leave it to dcum to turn dozens of girls drowning in a flood into a political debate.

You should see X/Twitter. MAGA conspiracy theorists claiming this event is impossibly severe and the Dems had something to do with it.

WTF? I hate Republicans so much.

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Anonymous wrote:Leave it to dcum to turn dozens of girls drowning in a flood into a political debate.

You should see X/Twitter. MAGA conspiracy theorists claiming this event is impossibly severe and the Dems had something to do with it.

WTF? I hate Republicans so much.

There’s a name for people who refuse to accept responsibility for their actions and always blame others….

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have family members at Mystic. They are safe now tonight (picked up by their parents after helicoptering out) but very traumatized. I went to camp in the area as well, I know many families with kids in the camps there, and I know numerous locals who run the camps. It is a very tight-knit community that will never be the same.

Save your politics for another forum please.

But we on DCUM and who work in science and research and government have been saying, then shouting, and now SCREAMING, that these very types of events are going to happen more often and with more intensity if human beings do not stop pumping greenhouse gasses into the atmosphere. And we have been mocked and dismissed and ignore for saying this by politicians and their followers. This is EXACTLY the type of scenario we have been talking about and guess what, it’s going to happen over and over and over again and not just to brown people in countries you don’t care about but to your precious little blond Christian girls too. This just happened in Asheville; when is initial going to be “too soon” to talk about why these things are happening?

And it is POLITICS, specifically ignorant Republican politicians, specifically people like Ted Cruz and Greg Abbott, who are stopping any and all efforts to research the issue so we can prevent it from getting worse or roll it back. It is politics that are stripping away the funding for the research and resources needed to figure out how to mitigate the effects of this and save lives. It is politics that are ensuring that people in government and who conduct federally funded research cannot even SAY climate change; cannot even acknowledge that it might exist. And every time you say “now is not the time” and go off to pray and do jack all nothing, or tell others to shut up about it, you are in fact engaged in a political act impeding government providing services to the people it serves. And that is a HUGE political act itself.

So spare us your lectures. We will not shut up because the urgency of the moment demands that we call out every single one of these tragedies as a harbinger of what is coming. And if you don’t want to hear it, you can stay off DCUM because this community has a lot of people who work on these issues and we are incandescent with rage right now at how Republicans have politicized this issue to keep their corporate masters happy and to keep the money flowing. And this is what happens and let us be clear, is going to happen again and again and again and all the Go Fund Mes in the world aren’t going to be enough.

[Anonymous]

I’ve seen videos from an RV site too. RVs just washed away with the families inside.
Heartbreaking.